you know its bad when they admit it.

[zekko]

So for us guys that want a loving , Great Relationship like the old days...build a family off of. Are those days over?

Seriously that is what I want.....a best friend and a lover. I guess it's impossible now eh?

I can't tell you how many posts I've read here that state that only weak beta males want what you're talking about.
Or that it is impossible for males to want that, that they only want to be out spreading their seed around instead.
Or that you only want that because you are brainwashed by feminists and the "matrix".

That is only one reason why I take anything I read here with a huge grain of salt.

 

[f283000]

So for us guys that want a loving , Great Relationship like the old days...build a family off of. Are those days over?

Seriously that is what I want.....a best friend and a lover. I guess it's impossible now eh?

If you live in America and you have the ideal of a happy marriage/family you are delusional. The reason for this are the divorce statistics. They don't lie. Women in this country are not fit for marriage.

It's not about hating on american women but rather just pointing out the real facts, the stats that don't lie.

Go teach english in China. You'll find some of the most femenine women around. Delicate, precious, still virgins at 25+, eager to become mothers. Sure they care about financial stability there's nothing wrong with them to want a family that is held together by a strong man.

much different than an american single mom who wants marriage to get out of the mess she got into having gotten pregnant by bad boys and now looking for a nice guy to take care of her and her kids.

 

[zekko]

If you live in America and you have the ideal of a happy marriage/family you are delusional. The reason for this are the divorce statistics. They don't lie. Women in this country are not fit for marriage.

I'm not going to recommend marriage in this current climate to anyone either.

However, the divorce rate has been around 50% for quite a long time.
Even if you think that figure should be higher, it still shows that a successful marriage is not impossible.

Also, there has to be a certain percentage of those divorces where the failure of the marriage is at least partly the male's fault. There are a number of guys on this forum who have stated that if they ever get married, they still intend to screw other women on the side.

But yeah, I agree most women in the US are not fit for marriage. Too spoiled on male attention, their body parts too glorified.

 

[typical]

I'm not going to recommend marriage in this current climate to anyone either.

However, the divorce rate has been around 50% for quite a long time.
Even if you think that figure should be higher, it still shows that a successful marriage is not impossible.

Also, there has to be a certain percentage of those divorces where the failure of the marriage is at least partly the male's fault. There are a number of guys on this forum who have stated that if they ever get married, they still intend to screw other women on the side.

But yeah, I agree most women in the US are not fit for marriage. Too spoiled on male attention, their body parts too glorified.

Yea but what about the stats which represent broken families that havn't signed the papers yet so that the kids don't get screwed over ??

I've grown up in New Zealand and Australia and our culture (well the last 20 years or so since I have been in these two countries) is driven by what people see on TV, specifically MTV and its spinoffs.

And I'll tell you right now that majority of my generation is very messed up, they are all kids where mummy and daddy have given them everything yet they want more, they have grown up without having to lift a finger and expect their partners do be a sort of substitute for mummy and daddy.

My younger cousins are between 20 and 25 and they can't change a car tyre or service their cars nor make their own beds or decide what clothes to buy. Its always been mummy or daddy that has decided it for them or fixed their problems.

This generation thinks getting a post grad dip in whatever field of study will guarantee them a awesome job with high pay, yet most couldn't even type up a solid cover letter nor give a solid interview nor have any people skills what so ever.

Yet stick them infront of the PC and Tele and they are gods of all there is to know. All they do is bit(h and can't get off their lazy a$$es and sort out their own problems.

Whats worse is I'm meant to find a wife from this lot ??? I firmly beleive this generation is doomed. This post has gone of on a tangent but you get the idea behind it, why would I want to settle (key word settle) with a woman who I know is not fit for my needs ot wants, thats why I've stayed away from getting in a serious relationship for so long.

I have my own problems (torn lower back got fat had to move back in with the folks due to no job) but I fixed nearly all those problems except my own place which I'll sort out by end of this year. But too many women have problems and they expect their significant other to sort it out for them. No thanks I will not waste my money and time to fix a problem you caused, nor will I sacrifice my own life so you can have a easy life just they way your mummy and daddy gave you.

If this means I'll be single forever then so be it

 

[jhl]

Typical, I wonder whether or not the previous generation thought the same way about us.

But from what I'm seeing, I agree with you in that there are some serious entitlement issues with the younger generation (as well as ADD-texting every 5 secs, checking phone every 5 secs, checking ipad every 5 secs) from just about everyone I meet.

 

[yuppaz]

I have a hard time with this one. Would be great to not have to spend time and effort dating (when things are rough when easy it can be a lot of fun), but then have had a lot of married women give me the f*ck me eyes and were DOWN to do it, would that be my wife some day? Thinking a good possible solution would be to hook up with girls that are hot but make more money then me. Then I get the house and the car...hahaha. Maybe marry some rich divorced chick in California or something.

 

[In2theGame]

sad but true post by warrior, Im still in my 20's but i guess i was brought up in a way that i see things in the old fashion way. I myself would like to be married and have children and have a happy family but things i see today just make me feel like its almost not possible. The advances in technology make it real difficult,.. i remember my very first real LTR and it was good and loving.. problem was we were both still young and at one point it turned into a long distance relationship and became too hard for us so we split up but we still talk as good friends. that was when the internet was just starting out and cell phones just had a small little screen that showed numbers. Today look at facebook, what you can do with a cell phone or in other words what you can hide with cell phones, How open and easy is to cheat or make contact with the opposite sex. Really... the door is WIDE! open for cheating and doing all kinds of **** in the dark without the other knowing until she starts acting strange or you feel like something is up. Plus like you guys have said, the culture today, the commercials and reality shows that promote all this sh*t.... it makes it all the more difficult.