You Guys Need A Wakeup Call

[TheException]

So ive been meaning to touch on this topic for sometime now and finally....after seeing the thread "Sociopath to get respect from women"(PlayHerMan) ive become disgusted enough to get the motivation to write this...

Im sick of members making women "the enemy". They make egregious statements about women and how "evil" they are or how they are all s1uts/wh0res. Not only is this pathetic(and you chumps would never say it to a woman's face yet you feel secure behind your computer screen)...but also incorrect.

Essentially what these certain members are doing is taking their frustration with women and turning it into a negative and nasty barrage of attacks. Most likely from suffering the "nice guy spell" and being LJBF all over the place. Never gaining much success....so he changes. But he begins to resent women for his failures instead of own those failures himself. He thinks hes progressing....but instead hes really just changing into another type of chump(bad a$$hole). This is not the goal NOR SHOULD IT BE for any guy. We are here to better ourselves and become a DJ/Alpha....not come here to bash(cry/whine/b1tch/complain/make excuses) women.

Women are not evil and every(most) action can be explained from a biological/evolutionary reasoning. You have to understand women are HYPERGAMOUS. Meaning....one egg = one baby. They have to find THE BEST(most alpha) male to mate with. Soooo when you date a girl and you act like a chump....she leaves you/cheats on you for another guy. If you were a goddamn bada$$/DJ/Alpha.....she would NOT CHEAT/LEAVE. The focus needs to be on us and controlling our demons(brought on by social conditioning).

Im sure we will still have our "regular bashers" that will comment on topics and really....this post is not for them. They are done and most likely will read this and rationalize it for themselves to "justify themselves"....they are lost. This is for the average reader/contributor and is a dose of truth serum. I dont hate women...in fact i love them. Every guy should....they make great company on our way to dominating life. Understand the following formula and you will truly....and i mean TRULY be ahead of most men.

No/Gay/Beta/Chumpy Masculinity < Bada$$hole/TRUE Jerk/ NEGATIVE MASCULINITY < Alpha/DJ/POSITIVE Masculinity.

 

[TheCWord]

Hear, hear!

Thanks, Ex. Just when I was starting to feel like a real sh-t head for being a regular on this forum, some level-headedness arrives to remind me it's not all douche bags on here.

Now, prepare to be called a "fag." Hahaha

 

[Sneevox]

I like this post.
I've recently been trying to turn around my attitude in general.
Stress builds up on some people, and they tend to think that more negativity about things will somehow make life more positive.

News Flash: Your environment isn't what decides your attitude about life. It's you who does that.

People need to start taking life more into their hands around here! hahaha

 

[Smok1nAce]

good thread OP, i do see many bitter people on here. its nice to see positive stuff.

 

[Skyy.]

You are confusing misogyny with awareness. It is the experience of older posters that provide insight on the younger generation what THEY are up against. You shame men for spreading awareness while promoting your blind definition of masculinity.

NEGATIVE MASCULINITY

You mean FEMININITY?

 

[VladPatton]

You keep thinking that. One day you'll see the light.

 

[Atom Smasher]

You are confusing misogyny with awareness. It is the experience of older posters that provide insight on the younger generation what THEY are up against. You shame men for spreading awareness while promoting your blind definition of masculinity.

You mean FEMININITY?

Exactly. Repped.

 

[Jitterbug]

If we all wake up and be like you, then you will seize to be The Exception. Can't have that.

 

[yougottaknow90]

right on, TC. i've always advocated your point of view.

i strongly believe that this sort of mentality has been shaped by countless negative interactions between posters like playher_man and low quality women.

something i've noticed about a lot of the topics on this board is that they're about situations only shyt quality women would put them in. the type to barely have her life together. to be working a dead end job and carrying excessive emotional baggage over some boyfriend who dumped her nearly a decade ago. a woman looking for some sort of catharsis for all her frustration with males.

no self respecting male would gun for that. not even for a quick lay.

yet that is what your average loser on this board guns for.

and by the way, looks don't mean the girl is of quality. lol.

the end result is what you see here.

 

[Olivia]

This is called game, because its a play...

 

[Olivia]

People getting way too serious which brings anger and frustations.. resentment

 

[Wolfgang D]

Well written, TheException, I agree with this. I note also that successful DJs are never bitter and hateful toward women, they don't write that "women have hearts made of stone", "women will always cheat" and "women are only after money".

And no, guys, he is not "confusing misogyny with awareness". TheException clearly states that women are not the same as men, he isn't buying that. He knows evolution made men and women different. You missed this part:

Women are not evil and every(most) action can be explained from a biological/evolutionary reasoning. You have to understand women are HYPERGAMOUS. Meaning....one egg = one baby. They have to find THE BEST(most alpha) male to mate with. Soooo when you date a girl and you act like a chump....she leaves you/cheats on you for another guy. If you were a goddamn bada$$/DJ/Alpha.....she would NOT CHEAT/LEAVE. The focus needs to be on us and controlling our demons(brought on by social conditioning).

That's awareness. What he is criticizing is the "women are Evil" posts. The mark of the guy who strikes out and can't handle it. You see some deficient guys who obviously come to a forum like SoSuave only to vent, refusing to accept their own flaws.

I would like to direct forum users and lurkers to the A Dark Heart blog at http://www.adarkheart.com/ . It is not the end-all about men, women and dating - I would personally like to add some and rewrite some, but hey, it's not my blog - but it is a guide by a guy who has had success with women and shares the things he has learned. ("Muscleman" on this forum.) You will note that he doesn't say women are evil. He talks repeatedly of how they are different from men, but he knows they are not "slvts who are only after money". Women are different, and mostly more deficient in objective reasoning than most men, but not evil - not more so than men, at least. That is knowledge shared by those who have actually achieved the DJ success people say they are striving for.

 

[Olivia]

Well written, TheException, I absolutely agree with this. I note also that successful DJs are never bitter and hateful toward women, they don't write that "women have hearts made of stone", "women will always cheat" and "women are only after money". The ones who write that are those who don't get any.

Attraction is the key. If you don't feel attraction towards your boi, and you feel a vast attration towards somebody else.. it will happen, sooner or later.

 

[playa99]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to TheException again.

High Quality women are rare.... One of my plates at the moment is a care assistant, does a lot of great helping things in here life.

There is a lot of Low quality women out there, I was in a LTR with one a long time. Who think they can do what they want.

The biggest change i've seen in how women react to me is when I realized for my age I actually am a great catch.. Got my own business, been through a lot and got the experience to show for it, confident, decent body and that women should be working to get me.

Yeah I gotta ask the right stuff and show that I'm a great catch, which is apparent in my actions because its who I am.

There is a few of us DJ's who are batting from the same hymn sheet on this. I don't believe women are evil, but there are evil women out there.

If your screening properly you should be able to in time narrow down and find the right woman to spend your life with.. That sure as hell aint AFC, it's what I want.

I haven't talked about women because there are HIGH quality women out there, however if you aint a high quality man then the chances are you will not get a high quality woman.

You can't become high quality for the reason of having a high quality woman.. You gotta be high quality because its who you are!

 

[Greasy Pig]

OP, best you find a red pill and take it, quick smart.
The "all women are precious flowers to be pedestalised and adored" way of thinking is a fast track to a living hell.
I too subscribed to the NAWALT mentality and thought the DJ mentality was bullsht and that no woman would ever be attracted to that.
Then I came here, changed my mindset and reaped the rewards.

As Skyy intimated, men need to be snapped the hell out of the NAWALT philosophy and be made aware of the cruelest possibilities so they can be better prepared to handle them.
I'm afraid to say, YOU need the wakeup call.

 

[zinc4]

lot's of white knight going around in this thread....

 

[PlayHer Man]

OP, best you find a red pill and take it, quick smart.
The "all women are precious flowers to be pedestalised and adored" way of thinking is a fast track to a living hell.
I too subscribed to the NAWALT mentality and thought the DJ mentality was bullsht and that no woman would ever be attracted to that.
Then I came here, changed my mindset and reaped the rewards.

As Skyy intimated, men need to be snapped the hell out of the NAWALT philosophy and be made aware of the cruelest possibilities so they can be better prepared to handle them.
I'm afraid to say, YOU need the wakeup call.

THIS.

lot's of white knight going around in this thread....

And THIS

Also, I never said women are "evil". You can search every post I've ever made from day 1 and you'll never see me describe women as "evil". I've always said that women look out for their own best interest above all else. The problem with most white knights is they look out for women's interests above their own.

Men are trained to look out for --> Women
Women are trained to look out for -->Women

So who is looking out for men? --> No one

I advocate looking out for YOURSELF.. even if its at women's expense. That's what I do. That's how I live.. and its very empowering. :yes:

 

[Zarky]

The problem I have is guys who bash guys who say anything good about women or who point out "Hey, men don't really have it that bad after all."

Everyone wants to be a victim I guess. Take that victimhood away from them and they get irate.

 

[TheCWord]

There is really no point in arguing in this thread, because it's like debating the existence of god with an evangelical christian: for them, god HAS to exist - otherwise, they lose their identity.

Likewise here, women HAVE to be evil - otherwise, why am I single and in my 50s?

Yes, I stepped on the age line there and I paused before doing so because there are guys like Atom who write very insightful posts and are probably single for different reasons... And, hell, I'm 29 and could still end up single at 49, who knows. But when I read things like this...

You are confusing misogyny with awareness. It is the experience of older posters that provide insight on the younger generation what THEY are up against.

...I can't help but thinking how often older posters try to disguise bitterness with wisdom.

For the older guys who have been divorced or have just never been married - I completely sympathize. I'm sure they've been hurt just as I'm sure they're really great guys who didn't deserve to be hurt. The same is true for guys in their twenties or thirties who have been burned by bad relationships.

But statements like the above quote rarely read as wisdom. It comes across as projection. "I know how things are because I've seen how terrible women can be because I've been divorced and I've been hurt and I'm in my fifties or sixties while my friends are having grandkids because they don't realize how bad they have it and YOU are just oh-so-blind to how women are."

While the experience the older posters on this site provide is (beyond any doubt) INCREDIBLY BENEFICIAL and helps us to understand women, shed our white knight armor, and keep women off pedestals - we must be careful how much and of what we take to heart on here... especially when it comes to talking about women when we should really be talking about ourselves and our attitudes...

There are a lot of men on here who have had bad experiences with women and need to believe things are a certain way lest they feel that the reason they are posting on an internet dating message board during their mid-life is their fault and not the dreaded woman's.

I think discussions on here are most productive when we talk about ways to improve ourselves, and how to be real men... with the subtext always being that we are developing into men who are attractive to women and learning how to be successful in dating them. That does not mean supplicating to women's desires or acting feminine - it just means not bringing women down in order to build ourselves up.

 

[zekko]

I actually think women are evil. But they're not all bad. And there are plenty of guys who suck too.

Some guys here paint such a horrible picture of women, I don't understand why they would ever even want to be around them, at all.

Now, prepare to be called a "fag." Hahaha

Yep. Curiously, if you like women, that makes you a "fag" in some people's eyes. Seems kind of strange, doesn't it?

I think the whole "You have to be a sociopath to attract women" idea is a loser's mentality.
Either you don't want to be a sociopath, but you compromise your principles to become one just so you can attract women; Or:

You want to be a sociopath, and this rationale gives you an excuse to act like one. Or:

You actually are a sociopath, in which case you have a severe personality disorder.

I happen to think I am better than any sociopath. Any woman who might choose such a sick individual over me would definitely not be worth my time.