You don't need to be muscular/huge to get girls, in fact most women don't like it

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Most of you former skinny guys on this forum seem to be operating under the impression that the huge bodybuilding guys have the physique that most women want. That is a misconception.

Most women think that the huge bodybuilding physique is gross, and they think that the guys who spend all the time in the gym and obsess over their diet to attain that type of physique are silly and stupid.

I once took a poll on a co-ed forum a while ago - I asked: women, what type of male physique do you prefer?

a. huge bodybuilding physique - like Schwarzenegger in his prime or an NFL football player

b. swimmer or underwear model physique - some muscles, but lean and cut - example would be Justin Timberlake

c. regular joe version 1 - a guy who is skinny, goes to the gym a couple of times a week, hardly any muscle tone, watches what he eats but just looks normal with clothes on - example would be Bob Saget of Full House

d. regular joe version 2 - beer gut, some light man boobs, no exercise, doesn't watch his diet - example is Jimmy Kimmell, maybe Jack Black

or e. plain old fat - example is Dom Deluise

Most said either b or c. A couple even said d or e., only one person said a. Most said that huge muscleheads were scary, gross looking, and stupid. So, just watch what you eat and try to get some exercise in. Don't obsess over getting huge - it is a waste of time. Use your spare time to work on your career and other interests.
 

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Well for one thing, attaining the swimmer/underwear-model body can be difficult enough for most people, and I seriously doubt most women would choose an average-joe body over a swimmer's body.
 

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But my point is, you don't have to be a huge body building guy. In fact, most any other physique is better aside from total fat slob. Most women think huge bodybuilding guys are scary and/or stupid looking.
 

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I've seen meat heads at the bar....drinking ALONE. Not talking to any girls and not even being noticed. I think we over rate what women find as an attractive BODY. I have seen girls who have been attracted to skinny bodies. I think lean and tone is the best way to go. Like usher or pharell. I have seen hoe$ go crazy over their bodies. They have to be like 160 soaking wet(LOL).
 

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Is this just a ploy to make yourself feel better about being skinny? Let me tell you something - all is well and good on a poll. In practice however, plenty of girls go for the big guy.

It gives you an edge - I've been opened by girls coming up and feeling my chest - it's easy.
 

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The_Lifter said:
Is this just a ploy to make yourself feel better about being skinny? Let me tell you something - all is well and good on a poll. In practice however, plenty of girls go for the big guy.

It gives you an edge - I've been opened by girls coming up and feeling my chest - it's easy.

My body has changed a lot in the past 10 years. I used to be really huge. Now I am just slim and in shape. I get more girls now that I am slim and in shape - even though I'm older. And I have a lot more time on my hands too - and I don't have to drink gross stuff like whey protein all day long.

From your name and your response, it sounds like you may be trying to convince yourself that you have made the right lifestyle choice. If you are a young guy, take it from me and spare yourself a lot of wasted time and energy.
 

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you sound like one of those skinny guys thats trying to justified himself for being skinny but you said you're not. Really huge mean really fat? You have no idea what kind of effort it takes to have "the swimmer" type of body which is what most guys are after. The people that want the arnold build are the ones that does it for the sport and competition, NOT to primary attract woman.

I see these kind of threads all the time, it does nothing helpful to the readers. In these day and age where obesity is a huge problems, if guys are obsess about body building and improving himself then let him be. People seems to forget that bodybuilding not only increase your confidence, energy and overall health. Who cares if girls like it or not? the world doent revole around girls you know.
 

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My point is that while bodybuilding increases your confidence and overall health - these huge muscle guys overdo it at the expense of everything else in life. They spend all day at the gym and obsess over their diet, when their time would be better spent just maintaining a decent physique and using the rest of the time to work on their career and other goals. It is only partially to do with attracting girls.
 

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You said so yourself. The girls typically found that the meatheads were dumb and stupid. However, you you are WELL built and intelligent and charming, that gives you way more ammo than just being intelligent and charming. You will have the edge over the skinny guys because you are physically in better shape and more attractive. Women might say one thing but that doesn't mean its what they actually want. That is why those polls can only be taken with a grain of salt. Women will say one thing and do another!
 

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sexxyback said:
My point is that while bodybuilding increases your confidence and overall health - these huge muscle guys overdo it at the expense of everything else in life. They spend all day at the gym and obsess over their diet, when their time would be better spent just maintaining a decent physique and using the rest of the time to work on their career and other goals. It is only partially to do with attracting girls.
If you use your brain, you can figure out how to manage your time to focus on your career and bodybuild. There's no reason to be spending more than 3 hours a day in the gym anyway and having a great lifestyle of eating correctly is nothing you should scoff at, it gives you more energy and brainpower throughout the day to eat 6 meals a day than 3.
 

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It is unhealthy to avoid working out and living a healthy lifestyle. That effects your overall life span.

But it's also unhealthy to have the mindset, that I must "look great" and "be fit" to get laid.

A guy MUST workout and live a healthy lifestyle to achieve overall physical success. But when a guy takes his healthy lifestyle and says, "This is will get me women," he's wrong, and what could happen is that when he STILL gets rejected all over the place with the nice body, he could STOP working out, thus CONTINUE living an unhealthy lifestyle.

As I said in the discussion with the God of Gettiing Laid guy, we must have proper perspective, or our entire ship could go down. It's like people telling guys they should seek God and go to church and live a better lifestyle to "get women." That becomes a problem, because after being in church and living a great lifestyle, the guy STILL gets rejected, that could make the guy convert back into something that's just bitter filled.

We must have the proper perspective. I am no Pook worshipper, but with the multidue of posts he made on this, I am amazed as why you guys still haven't got it yet.
 

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First, what women say they want and what they want are completely different. The "poll" is close to worthless, sorry. All else equal (it never seems to be, but go with me here) women will go for the buff/fit guy every time.

In other news, "size doesn't matter" is something they say to guys with small ****s. Get real.
 

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Charm said:
You said so yourself. The girls typically found that the meatheads were dumb and stupid. However, you you are WELL built and intelligent and charming, that gives you way more ammo than just being intelligent and charming. You will have the edge over the skinny guys because you are physically in better shape and more attractive. Women might say one thing but that doesn't mean its what they actually want. That is why those polls can only be taken with a grain of salt. Women will say one thing and do another!

Women in general do not want the huge physique. That is just a misconception on the part of guys who are insecure about their looks and are looking for something to latch onto. They think that if they get the huge python arms that this will get them girls. This is just wrong.

Look at our entertainment media. Actors, famous rock stars, anyone in the media. The whole business of the media is to present tv shows, movies and music videos with attractive people, in order that people will watch the ads, buy the records, etc. What types of guys do you see on the tv and in the movies? There are some huge actors like Vin Diesel and Schwarzenegger - but most are not. In fact most are just slim with some muscle tone. Is that a coincidence? No. If most women preferred huge bodybuilding guys, then you would see huge bodybuilding guys all over the movies. But that is not the case - the type of physique you see on most celebrities is such because that is what women and people in general prefer.
 

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sexxyback said:
Women in general do not want the huge physique. That is just a misconception on the part of guys who are insecure about their looks and are looking for something to latch onto. They think that if they get the huge python arms that this will get them girls. This is just wrong.

Look at our entertainment media. Actors, famous rock stars, anyone in the media. The whole business of the media is to present tv shows, movies and music videos with attractive people, in order that people will watch the ads, buy the records, etc. What types of guys do you see on the tv and in the movies? There are some huge actors like Vin Diesel and Schwarzenegger - but most are not. In fact most are just slim with some muscle tone. Is that a coincidence? No. If most women preferred huge bodybuilding guys, then you would see huge bodybuilding guys all over the movies. But that is not the case - the type of physique you see on most celebrities is such because that is what women and people in general prefer.
Bravo Sexxyback,
I like when people on this forum give REAL life examples to prove their points. But I warn you man. Instead of listening to the truth....instead of countering your argument...they will just call you names..like AFC, idiot...etc. Don't waste your time. They just want you to feed their fantasies.
 

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Rakishness, what you just said speaks realities to me,

"But I warn you man. Instead of listening to the truth....instead of countering your argument...they will just call you names..like AFC, idiot...etc. Don't waste your time. They just want you to feed their fantasies."

The more and more you try and have an intelligent discussion here, the more childish it gets. I think that's why I am going to start just coming back to this site to finish reading up on the previous posts from previous members, and don't even bother logging in anymore and making a reply.
 

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Sexxy, here are your problems:

1) like someone said women rarely tell you what they actually want. if you spend so much time making polls and posting stuff like this you should already know this

2) why do you have to think in extremes? not every bodybuilder is huge - in fact there isn't a single natural bodybuilder in the world who would be considered grossly huge by a woman. not 1

3) by providing examples (SUCH AS justin timberlake, SUCH AS bob sagat) you already fvcked up the survey by automatically associating a body type with a celebrity

I've been a bodybuilder since last year and some of the people here are SERIOUSLY dilusional about what it takes and what it is. I eat like a normal person (just more), I still go out do all the "normal people" stuff, I still drink, I still party. the only difference is I sleep more than an average person (I aim for 8 hours/night), eat more than the average person, and spend more time in the gym. so what? it's fun. beats video games or watching tv

And regardless of this theoretical BS people keep posting, I know from real life experience - the few months during which I packed on some serious mass - that I not only got MUCH more attention from women in general, but it was a hell of a lot easier to game them and bed them.

I wish more people here would stop posting this crap as an excuse for lifting like a girl (or not lifting at all), pick up some real iron, try it out for a couple months and then come back with your "theories".
 

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The trick is finding chicks who go for YOUR type. Then place your in certain venues and situations that allow you to showcase the unique brand of physical attractiveness you brind to the table.

Fight on.
 

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I never see any average body men on the Calvin Klein underwear packets. They all have at least a swimmer body. If women really wanted average bodies you would see more of them in advertising, but you don't.

I can see why they don't like men dieting, especially since most of them spend their lives on one diet or another.

Most men don't really want women with huge breasts either, but it doesn't mean that they won't look when they see a pair.
 

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DJF or John said:
Rakishness, what you just said speaks realities to me,

"But I warn you man. Instead of listening to the truth....instead of countering your argument...they will just call you names..like AFC, idiot...etc. Don't waste your time. They just want you to feed their fantasies."

The more and more you try and have an intelligent discussion here, the more childish it gets. I think that's why I am going to start just coming back to this site to finish reading up on the previous posts from previous members, and don't even bother logging in anymore and making a reply.
I think I will start ignoring those posters. A lot of posters here(including myself) really want to HELP. Why would I want to waste my time with petty arguments? Most of my posts are to help people who who are confused and inexperienced as I was. I don't want people here to fall for the many traps I fell for when I just started out. And people here should LISTEN to sexxybacks argument.
I think many people on this board have been BRAINWASHED. And anytime you try to challenge their old beliefs with LOGIC. They get mad...VERY MAD.
You also have to remember that not everyone who reads your posts(and takes it to heart) answers back. So my advice to you...would be to keep on posting and ignore the few bad apples.
 

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If u have the Arnold physiq u gonna get ***** like its free candy. Dont kid urself.... the Swimmer physiq is good and all but girls like someone that can basically "protect" them.
 
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