You don't need this website.

[KaJaMo]

Lets look at a few things.

I, along with hundreds of other people at one point in our lives were in need of social advice, or were frustrated with the opposite sex. It could even go as far as having no social proof, and completely having no game.

So we wanted to take control of our lives and better it, we took initiatve and said "NO MORE!" We will get our lives on the right track and set goals for ourselves in our social lives.

So we disovered websites such as these and thought they were the greatest things ever created, and I will be completely different.

WRONG!

So you realize that (not going to name any names) there are virgins and complete social idiots that were probably bulleid in HS and complete nerds giving advice to people! That's crazy!

Lok at it this day, I bet you $100 that the top popular people you know who have been laid probably 10x mroe than you ever will be in your life will never experience one of these sites, because they have it.

People don't change. They like to think they do, but they don't. In the end of the day when you look in the mirror, you are still the same person no matter how much you think you know about gaming girls or whatever haircut you have.

I'm trying to tell you guys the only and best way for you to get girls or whatever it is that you came on here for. To go do it. Involve yourself. Be social.

I'll be damned if when im 25+ years old I'll be on this website. Inf act, 5 years from now, after I garduate college the last place I can see myself at is a website like this. All of this is garbage!

In highschool, I first came here and other places like become a player.com in hope of imoproving my game. Blah blah read all the stuff etc etc.

Freshman and Sophomore years came I never touched a seduction website, and surprisingly go laid more than any of you can imagine. I am friends with some of the biggest pimp and macks out there, and they don't have little websites they go to to learn stuff from.

How do you thionk people evr got laid before the internet? Haha. Let me tell you, there were players back then.

Man part of growing up and living life is discovering things on your own. It's making your own experiences and memories, not being robots on websites trying to learn "secrets" that get you ass.

Really, open you eyes.

 

[Max Power]

okay

 

[NickBe]

I first came her in 2001 and I read through some of the stuff, I liked it, it sounded good and I took some of it on board and left. For the past 6 years I have been improving my game and my life in general, I started with some of the basic philosophy's on this board and then moved to more specific ones but got to learn begin a seduction robot is not the key. It is about being confident, suave and your own man, the little mind games we learn here like not buying her a drink are a joke. If you are confident in everything you say, do and the way you present yourself women will love you even if you buy them a drink.

The basic principles of this site are correct though, do not be a typical nice guy and put women on pedestals, do not be typically nice, do not get into the friend zone. Those principles are the foundation of seduction but all the other little things like not offering to buy her a drink, telling her you will call at 8 but you really call at 10. That stuff seems forced and it forces you to not be true to yourself.

So guys follow the basic principles of this site just do not get caught up in the little mind games some so called seduction gurus teach. The key to women is confidence...

I disagree with not needing this website though, this site serves a function, men with common interests can discuss women.

 

[bond21]

yea, people think theyre players here...theyre not.

just posers really.

 

[Man Man]

The thing is...most guys do not have to change themselves at all. In fact, if anything they have to behave MORE like themselves. Society has conditioned us to be nice guys and to let women walk all over us, for me this site has simply dispelled some of the myths associated with the dating game.

 

[~attrACTION~]

I think you have some alright points. Sure, guys don't need sites like this one but it's that they want sites like that to better themselves. It's not the site that is the problem, it is you and the people.

Sites like these are great. You take whatever information you want and go out and use it. No one is forcing anyone to stay here or mope around on the forums. You do whatever you want.

Why don't you open your own eyes? Forums like Sosuave are a great resource for guys who have questions. There is nothing wrong with the websites at all. I have questions myself, and I'm always trying to improve. I'm sure you're not perfect either.

The Internet is a resource. The resource is not to blame for people who don't improve. That's the fault of the people themselves.

Why do you have so much against sites like these?

 

[naes420]

Lets look at a few things.

I, along with hundreds of other people at one point in our lives were in need of social advice, or were frustrated with the opposite sex. It could even go as far as having no social proof, and completely having no game.

So we wanted to take control of our lives and better it, we took initiatve and said "NO MORE!" We will get our lives on the right track and set goals for ourselves in our social lives.

So we disovered websites such as these and thought they were the greatest things ever created, and I will be completely different.

WRONG!

So you realize that (not going to name any names) there are virgins and complete social idiots that were probably bulleid in HS and complete nerds giving advice to people! That's crazy!

Lok at it this day, I bet you $100 that the top popular people you know who have been laid probably 10x mroe than you ever will be in your life will never experience one of these sites, because they have it.

People don't change. They like to think they do, but they don't. In the end of the day when you look in the mirror, you are still the same person no matter how much you think you know about gaming girls or whatever haircut you have.

I'm trying to tell you guys the only and best way for you to get girls or whatever it is that you came on here for. To go do it. Involve yourself. Be social.

I'll be damned if when im 25+ years old I'll be on this website. Inf act, 5 years from now, after I garduate college the last place I can see myself at is a website like this. All of this is garbage!

In highschool, I first came here and other places like become a player.com in hope of imoproving my game. Blah blah read all the stuff etc etc.

Freshman and Sophomore years came I never touched a seduction website, and surprisingly go laid more than any of you can imagine. I am friends with some of the biggest pimp and macks out there, and they don't have little websites they go to to learn stuff from.

How do you thionk people evr got laid before the internet? Haha. Let me tell you, there were players back then.

Man part of growing up and living life is discovering things on your own. It's making your own experiences and memories, not being robots on websites trying to learn "secrets" that get you ass.

Really, open you eyes.

correct i complty agree i was the biggest loser ever when i came here...still was when using the site....as soon as i stoped using it i got laid for the first time now my life is perfect it couldnt be bette female wise

i dont come here to give or take advice on how to get girls...just **** i realy cant talk to people i know about because various reasons like them being there boyfriend and etc....and i never take the advice here..i just read it for reassurace and do my own thing

 

[SamMalone]

I disagree I think this website is great IN MODERATION. I find it is a great place to find other's views on things and evaluate myself more honestly than I would without it. It's when your on this site 24/7 and think about the "tips" you learned here while in a conversation with a girl that it becomes a problem.

I honestly did improve while reading the tips here. I'm not sure I would have (surely not as fast) if I didn't read things here.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Lets look at a few things.


So we wanted to take control of our lives and better it, we took initiatve and said "NO MORE!" We will get our lives on the right track and set goals for ourselves in our social lives.

So we disovered websites such as these and thought they were the greatest things ever created, and I will be completely different.

WRONG!

WRONG on your part. I think I like many others here don't come here expecting to be totally different people, we come here to enhance the positive points of our beings. I haven't met one person here who has said "damn! I thought it was going to be different." It's a micro evolution process. Whether you think so or not, many people here have improved their lives by following the guidelines of this site and getting sound advice from people who have made similar mistakes.

So you realize that (not going to name any names) there are virgins and complete social idiots that were probably bulleid in HS and complete nerds giving advice to people! That's crazy! Yes and we call those people trolls. If there is advice given that has been proven to be wrong most of the time then they will be called out. There's trolls everywhere you go, however it has they have not yet taken over this site.

Lok at it this day, I bet you $100 that the top popular people you know who have been laid probably 10x mroe than you ever will be in your life will never experience one of these sites, because they have it. What is "IT"? A high status in life? Good parents? Natural talent? The great thing about being your own man is knowing that with hard work and preservation you WILL eventually get to where you're going. Learning from others mistakes is a great tool in finding your own path. To say that you'll never be more than you are is an ignorant statement and IMO poison for someone who is desperately looking for help with his life.


People don't change. They like to think they do, but they don't. In the end of the day when you look in the mirror, you are still the same person no matter how much you think you know about gaming girls or whatever haircut you have.

Wow. I can honestly tell you that I'm not the same person I was five years ago. I'm not even the same person I was several months ago. If there are things about yourself that are causing the destruction of your friendships or relationships yes you can change. Learning from mistakes is one of the greatest traits we human beings hold. Being less that what I could have been ruined my relationship. I knew what helped caused it so I made an effort (still am) to change. If you want to be a slave to your own negative ideas about your fate then so be it. I wouldn't suggest dragging people here down with you.

I'm trying to tell you guys the only and best way for you to get girls or whatever it is that you came on here for. To go do it. Involve yourself. Be social.

No one here has promoted otherwise. We're always saying go out and play the field. No one here and I mean NO ONE here advocates sitting on your ass all day doing nothing with your life.

I'll be damned if when im 25+ years old I'll be on this website. Inf act, 5 years from now, after I garduate college the last place I can see myself at is a website like this. All of this is garbage!
Well good luck. Don't be a loser like me! I'm almost 26 and still coming to this site. I should probably stick my head in a stove.

In highschool, I first came here and other places like become a player.com in hope of imoproving my game. Blah blah read all the stuff etc etc.

Freshman and Sophomore years came I never touched a seduction website, and surprisingly go laid more than any of you can imagine. I am friends with some of the biggest pimp and macks out there, and they don't have little websites they go to to learn stuff from.

Ok. There's so many points you fail to realize that I'm not even going to go through all of them with you. I see you have around 15 post. You're probably a troll anyways and I just wasted 10 minutes of my life writing this crap down.

*sigh*

 

[reset]

How do you thionk people evr got laid before the internet? Haha. Let me tell you, there were players back then.

word?

You get what you're looking for... for me this place has become more of a
"being a real man in today's society" thing, not specifically about women anymore.

 

[IamMyownMan]

KaJaMo-I get your point.

Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

KaJaMo-I get your point.

Put your money where your mouth is.

:crackup:

 

[NickBe]

Actually reading again I also disagree with what you said about people not begin able to change. That is crap, people change, I have changed. It is called growing, people grow......

 

[IWillReturnsoon]

yea, people think theyre players here...theyre not.

just posers really.

Yep. KJ's for the win. They don't even include Field Reports or anything to show they know what they're talking about.

 

[PRMoon]

I think it's sad when people reach absolution about something and don't concider the variety of possibilities for the situation. There's nothing wrong with coming to the internet and looking for awnsers about socialization in general. There are other ways of going about this as well like getting out there and seeing it for yourself or finding a life coach but none of these is more right or wrong then the other. Looking for absolution in life will always leave you falling short and dissapointed eventually.

 

[IWillReturnsoon]

I have to agree with the topic creator on not needing this site, sure u don't need to go on sosuave, there are other seduction forums. But i have to disagree with...

Lets look at a few things.

I, along with hundreds of other people at one point in our lives were in need of social advice, or were frustrated with the opposite sex. It could even go as far as having no social proof, and completely having no game.

Thats why they seek advice, because it never changed.

So we wanted to take control of our lives and better it, we took initiatve and said "NO MORE!" We will get our lives on the right track and set goals for ourselves in our social lives.

So we disovered websites such as these and thought they were the greatest things ever created, and I will be completely different.

It can be completely different, but its up to you. Also, atleast them trying to learn the resources, thats a start.

So you realize that (not going to name any names) there are virgins and complete social idiots that were probably bulleid in HS and complete nerds giving advice to people! That's crazy!

Yea..its a shame on this site you truly can't tell whether or not someone really has game or not. But usually u can tell, when they can back up their statements.

I'm trying to tell you guys the only and best way for you to get girls or whatever it is that you came on here for. To go do it. Involve yourself. Be social.

Thats why they came in the first place, to find out "how". Some people really don't know the first step.

I'll be damned if when im 25+ years old I'll be on this website. Inf act, 5 years from now, after I garduate college the last place I can see myself at is a website like this. All of this is garbage!

I have to definitely agree on this one. Sosuave is definitely corrupted beyond belief. The only reason i'm still here is for when i finish my journal and post it all at once here, they can see another style of game work...and then im gone for good. But yea, atleast Mystery Method forum, Real Social Dynamics Forum, Tareeq Nasheed's forum, etc....those guys actually go out into the field.

In highschool, I first came here and other places like become a player.com in hope of imoproving my game. Blah blah read all the stuff etc etc.

Freshman and Sophomore years came I never touched a seduction website, and surprisingly go laid more than any of you can imagine. I am friends with some of the biggest pimp and macks out there, and they don't have little websites they go to to learn stuff from.

Now your just trying to be ****y. It doesn't matter where u learn something...what matters is u take action. Something don't come as naturally as others. I know that if it wasn't for some of the seduction forums out there, i would still be sad at not being able to take action.

Man part of growing up and living life is discovering things on your own. It's making your own experiences and memories, not being robots on websites trying to learn "secrets" that get you ass.

Really, open you eyes.

Some people needs different ideas and resources to start on creating an experience, sometimes it takes more than just ur mind to get an idea of how to do something...and yes, they do get u ass...why look down on it? ;-)

 

[Interceptor]

What a horribly NEGATIVE and Self Limitin, and at the same time Self Righteous piece of crap post!!!

Whay are you here?

Why are you being a hypocrite??

These are the people that my Brothers shoudl NOT b paying attention to.
Self Righteous, yet bitter and resentful and inexperienced young males.

The main argument for many is this:


"I'm told by everyone to "Just Be Yourself" and that will be enough to attract women, the women I desire. Yet, when I do this very thing that Society has imposed on me, I fail. How can the most common advice given to Males, be so fraught with failure?? Why do I FAIL at being "MYSELF"? What an I doing WRONG???"

That's why males come here.

 

[Max Power]

What a horribly NEGATIVE and Self Limitin, and at the same time Self Righteous piece of crap post!!!

Yeah, I'm getting sick of all the haters here.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Yeah, I'm getting sick of all the haters here.

May make you wonder "what's their purpose?"

 

[KaJaMo]

What a horribly NEGATIVE and Self Limitin, and at the same time Self Righteous piece of crap post!!!

Whay are you here?

Why are you being a hypocrite??

These are the people that my Brothers shoudl NOT b paying attention to.
Self Righteous, yet bitter and resentful and inexperienced young males.

The main argument for many is this:


"I'm told by everyone to "Just Be Yourself" and that will be enough to attract women, the women I desire. Yet, when I do this very thing that Society has imposed on me, I fail. How can the most common advice given to Males, be so fraught with failure?? Why do I FAIL at being "MYSELF"? What an I doing WRONG???"

That's why males come here.

If you're 39 and still don't know how to be yourself, then you should seek professional help, not advice froma bunch of guys on their pc's.

Honestly beign yourself is the single ebst advice anyone has given me and I give it to other. I used tot hink otherwise, liek OH I want to be like whoever else because they have it all.

Well there's always things about people that we don't know. The guy may appear to have it all, but he doesnt. They never do. There's always something.

The fact is people have told me I'm that guy. Yet every time I talk to a woman I remain as calm as a Hindu cow on the outside, like im in control and I'm Mr. Suave. Yet, on the inside my insecurities eat me alive. It's always going to be like that, not matter how many more women I sleep with.

This stuff is genetic, just like goood athletes. The ebst ones come from a long line of athletic families. Sure you can train to improve your skills. However, in that split second you have to catch the ball you don't think about it, natural atheletes just get it done. That's what makes them amazing.

I see a lot of horse racing fans here, well you guys should know how important genetics and breeding is.


The thing I think is hilarious, are the guys who spearhead the seduction communitu ie Mystery, Style, Tyler Durden, etc etc. All look like IDIOTS! Kids I would have easily picked on in highschool.

The same goes to the player's board on become a player.com
People there think they're players because they wear Ralph Lauren, when in reality they look liek Aunt Bertha's Bastard Step Child.

Their dressing guide over there I also find a bit amusing, they claim that all white classic sneakers and timb boots are a must for every player.
Well I'll tell you this, from the past year of going to some of Pittsburgh's biggest and best bars, I don't think I've seen one person havign that "look."

Maybe they're aiming at players in Boyz in the Hood?