If you're a solid 7/10 and a generally likeable dude, I think you'll find this useful - not gonna pretend it will work for everyone.
Background: Found myself in a particularly crappy location for OLD - virtually no attractive women who had their sh!t together in my area - if you've tried OLD outside a major city, you know what I'm talking about. So I start changing up my location and profile description - NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Washington - seeing what works best for me. My approach was entirely passive - set up the profile and see what comes in. A little back and forth if I got a particularly interesting message.
Location: It matters alright. The bigger the city, the easier OLD is. I got the most unsolicited messages in San Fran for what that's worth (even more than NYC). I was expecting to find that different types of profiles did better in certain locations, but that wasn't the case. The same two profile descriptions always did the best regardless of location. Kind of interesting.
Platform: PoF, OK Cupid, Tinder, Bumble. While they all worked, I think PoF and OK Cupid should be the go to apps for average to slightly above average looking dudes. For one thing, there's no mutual matching required before you can send a message. So there's that, but more importantly, I found that contact on PoF/OKC was more likely to lead to something tangible. It know it seems like there's more action on Tinder and Bumble, but trust me, the traditional apps have a better ROI (Chad Thundercock may have a different opinion about that).
Profile Descriptions: I gotta tell you, I'm still kinda pissed that what I think was my best work fell flat. But you can't argue with what actually works. Without further ado:
I've got fifty bucks for any woman who can write a profile without using the words "yoga", "travel", or "not looking for hookups".
Yup, that's it. My most successful profile to date. In every city I've tested it, I get a bunch of women messaging me and playfully asking for their fitty. Candy from a baby at that point.
I understand why it worked, but let's hear what you guys think.
The other profile that did really well took me by surprise. I always run the same four photos - nothing special, the usual shiz we all have (on the bike, with the dog, group shot, token selfie). And one day I took the piss out of every photo - made fun of my bike, my facial hair, the fact that the ex got the dog, but hey - at least my pecs are on point!
Didn't have much hope for it.
My inbox blew up.
Now, a lot of girls missed the whole tongue in cheek part, were offering me genuine sympathy (ugghh), but it was real interest - even got "handpicked" by some professional matchmaker for a client of hers. Flies in the face of everything I know about seduction, but it always tests really well. Make of that what you will.
Background: Found myself in a particularly crappy location for OLD - virtually no attractive women who had their sh!t together in my area - if you've tried OLD outside a major city, you know what I'm talking about. So I start changing up my location and profile description - NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Washington - seeing what works best for me. My approach was entirely passive - set up the profile and see what comes in. A little back and forth if I got a particularly interesting message.
Location: It matters alright. The bigger the city, the easier OLD is. I got the most unsolicited messages in San Fran for what that's worth (even more than NYC). I was expecting to find that different types of profiles did better in certain locations, but that wasn't the case. The same two profile descriptions always did the best regardless of location. Kind of interesting.
Platform: PoF, OK Cupid, Tinder, Bumble. While they all worked, I think PoF and OK Cupid should be the go to apps for average to slightly above average looking dudes. For one thing, there's no mutual matching required before you can send a message. So there's that, but more importantly, I found that contact on PoF/OKC was more likely to lead to something tangible. It know it seems like there's more action on Tinder and Bumble, but trust me, the traditional apps have a better ROI (Chad Thundercock may have a different opinion about that).
Profile Descriptions: I gotta tell you, I'm still kinda pissed that what I think was my best work fell flat. But you can't argue with what actually works. Without further ado:
I've got fifty bucks for any woman who can write a profile without using the words "yoga", "travel", or "not looking for hookups".
Yup, that's it. My most successful profile to date. In every city I've tested it, I get a bunch of women messaging me and playfully asking for their fitty. Candy from a baby at that point.
I understand why it worked, but let's hear what you guys think.
The other profile that did really well took me by surprise. I always run the same four photos - nothing special, the usual shiz we all have (on the bike, with the dog, group shot, token selfie). And one day I took the piss out of every photo - made fun of my bike, my facial hair, the fact that the ex got the dog, but hey - at least my pecs are on point!
Didn't have much hope for it.
My inbox blew up.
Now, a lot of girls missed the whole tongue in cheek part, were offering me genuine sympathy (ugghh), but it was real interest - even got "handpicked" by some professional matchmaker for a client of hers. Flies in the face of everything I know about seduction, but it always tests really well. Make of that what you will.
