You don't always need 9s and 10s

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No, I am not missing the point.

First, there is no such thing as a "10". This is a social construct. You have been raised to believe that there is a "perfect" woman. Lower that number to 9 and you will be in the right mindset that no woman is flawless.

Second, by lowering your standards you are lowering your own value. If you have enough money to afford a nice gourmet meal, why would you go for McDonalds?

Third, by using Plate Theory, your "10 who has no personality and can't fk to save herself" would be automatically filtered. You can find a 9 that has great looks, a great personality, a lot going for herself, AND can fk like a freak. They are hard to come across, let alone game, but there are plenty out there.

Why sell yourself short? When you do finally come across a quality woman, you have been practicing on 7's, making yourself a 7. Are you high enough quality for her? No, because you sold yourself short.

Not trying to personally attack you but it sounds like you are too lazy or scared of rejection. So what if you get rejected by a 9? At least you tried. If you reflect on it, you will learn something valuable and not make the mistake the next time.
No offence taken bro but I think you ARE missing MY point. I'm currently trying to hit on a 9 anyway but what I'm saying is there are plenty of 7s out there that are extremely appealing and a shightload less hassle. And there pretty forking sexy too. I don't know maybe we have different opinions on what constitutes a 7?
 

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Don't believe in this hb# stuff. My scale is:

Would have sex with her
Would not have sex with her.

And anyone letting themselves get with women they don't find attractive is selling short.
 

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A lot of guys aren't going to meet a bunch of 9 and 10's everyday. They are pretty rare. It is best to practice your mack (and sex game) on some 6-8's. "And once you've done slayed like all of them hood rats now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho. You know what I mean?"
 

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goodfoot said:
A lot of guys aren't going to meet a bunch of 9 and 10's everyday. They are pretty rare. It is best to practice your mack (and sex game) on some 6-8's. "And once you've done slayed like all of them hood rats now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho. You know what I mean?"
Agreed, you don't lend a Ferrari to someone who just got their license nor do you teach someone to shoot by handing them a .44 magnum right away. They need to work their way up and pass the basic course first.

I also agree that 9's (I don't believe in a universal 10, 10 just means a 9 you think has something extra special but only to you) tend to be good for little more than just ONS. If you find a 9 who is also girlfriend material you might as well play the lottery right away as your luck is being cashed in.

There's plenty of ****able girls in the 6-8 range and there's a better chance of finding one who isn't damaged and overly entitled. If you want a relationship you're more likely to find a chick there who recognizes you as a catch. I doubt you'll be so motivated to chase a stuck up 9 when you have a cute 7 who already treats you like a king.

Not to mention that the chicks in the 6-8 range tend to know much more about how to please a man as they need to work more to keep one while the 9s simply rely on their looks to get by.
 

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Pair and Zekko: Agreed. I don't have the emotional patience or energy to deal with that **** anymore. Nobody is worth stressing over, or worrying about. These hot girls have way too many options to care about anyone, or settle with the status quo. They have rediculous standards, expectations, entitlements, etc. Many of them can never be satisfied, and need 50 guys to provide everything they want (ie, everything). Feels like a chore just trying to keep up with their bull****. They're also incredibly spoiled, rude, snobby, bratty, and complain about everything. Can't stand them. Not worth it.

It doesn't matter if you're attractive, drive a nice car, have money, are social, or whatever else, either. ****, they can consider you the best thing ever. They're still going to act like ****s, because they know there's a line of guys just waiting for them. They also tend to be very conceited and arrogant - always talking about how everyone wants them. This also means they are lazy and selfish. Many of them also use their looks to manipulate men. Power corrupts.

Outside of looks, most gorgeous women have nothing to offer. Woe to the white knights who sympathize with them. They're in for a treat.
 

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floydb25 said:
They have rediculous standards, expectations, entitlements, etc. Many of them can never be satisfied, and need 50 guys to provide everything they want (ie, everything). Feels like a chore just trying to keep up with their bull****. They're also incredibly spoiled, rude, snobby, bratty, and complain about everything. ...It doesn't matter if you're attractive, drive a nice car, have money, are social, or whatever else, either. ****, they can consider you the best thing ever. They're still going to act like ****s, because they know there's a line of guys just waiting for them.
This is how women with low interest level act, yes, but not how women who are infatuated act. Dealing with the former is the price you pay for witnessing the latter.
 

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not me. I've always been "super picky", and not just about looks, but about personality, brains, health, exercise, etc. She's got to be a really total package, and she's got to be into ME, or she can be a 12 and I don't even see her.
 

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bigneil said:
This is how women with low interest level act, yes, but not how women who are infatuated act. Dealing with the former is the price you pay for witnessing the latter.
Negative. These girls are interested, but they act this way regardless. They don't place any value upon anyone, because they don't have to. They believe to be the best thing around. Being attracted to you doesn't change ****. They're going to act how they always act. The only exception is in the very beginning - when they're trying to win you over. That's assuming they don't just want sex.

Also, infatuation doesn't last forever. So, as we're on the topic of relationships with these hot girls - its a waste of time. They just put on a front, and leave once you don't live up to their ideal image. Some of them don't even put on a charade - they act like *****es and sluts regardless. They have high standards throughout the entire relationship, and can never be satisfied.

So, to have a relationship with these girls - you have to act a certain way, which goes against what is even considered a relationship. Pointless, and a waste of time... Just to attract a hot girl who's fake and stupid, anyway. You reap what you sow. Just look at the posts on here. I used to say the same **** when chasing after the wrong women.
 

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I'd so much rather have a cool, down-to-earth, intelligent HB7 over one of those obnoxious 9-10's with all the orbiters and macho-exes.
 

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You also have to be careful with the lower(ish) level girls. Some of them are just as bad. They might even be meaner, *****ier, and more fake - due to insecurity, failure, resentment, inferiority, etc. Female nice guys exist, too, and they complain / hate on others even worse than average Joe's. You also have the delusional ones who think they're God's gift, and act just like the hot girls (I call them notties; they're the worst, and usually hang out with hotties). Looks don't guarantee anything; don't assume every cute / attractive girl is nice or quality. Losers and *****es and skanks come in all types. But the chances of finding a good one are greater. Same goes for age.

We live in a generation of spoiled *****es, and I'm not just talking about women. You have to make sacrifices. You're likely not gonna find a gorgeous, young girl who's worth being with for years and years. So, you end up with people *****ing, complaining, and feeling entitled to someone perfect in every possible way - when such a thing doesn't exist.
 

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I ve seen hot and quality women overseas. Western world- forget about.
 

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st_99 said:
its funny how guys progress in life as far as how they look at women.

I remember when i was in high school, I generally thought there were a only handfull of hot girls. At my age now, i think almost every high school girl is hot.

When I was in college, there were more hot girls i thought, but still, not a ton. Again, most college girls are hot, when I look at them now.

At this point, when i look at girls closer to my age, a lot more goes into how hot i think they are, its more the whole package, but again.. it doesn't seem like there are ton out there. lol.

So the lesson is I guess, when i'm like fifty, im going to say, you dumbass, at 30 they were all hot. you should have been banging everything in sight! haha.
This has got to be exactly how I feel about it all lol, well put:rock:
 

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The super hotties are great for casual dating or hookups - usually that's all they're interested in, anyway. They're nice for an ego boost and they look good on your arm.

I just don't believe they are any good for LTRs. They have too many options to be faithful to you. They will want to keep their "male friends". They are so used to having a steady supply of new males approaching them, they get bored easily. And if they get infatuated with you, it won't last long. They'll move on to the next guy who intrigues them.

st_99 said:
its funny how guys progress in life as far as how they look at women.

I remember when i was in high school, I generally thought there were a only handfull of hot girls. At my age now, i think almost every high school girl is hot.

When I was in college, there were more hot girls i thought, but still, not a ton. Again, most college girls are hot, when I look at them now.

At this point, when i look at girls closer to my age, a lot more goes into how hot i think they are, its more the whole package, but again.. it doesn't seem like there are ton out there. lol.

So the lesson is I guess, when i'm like fifty, im going to say, you dumbass, at 30 they were all hot. you should have been banging everything in sight! haha.
Lol, that's pretty close to the truth.
 
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