You are better off dating someone in your looks range

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mahon83050 said:
Let's put the "girls do not care about looks as much" myth to an end.

This is total bs. How often do you see an ugly guy (4 and below) with a girl who is a 7 or above? Very, very, rarely. When I see a hot girl, the guy she is with is usually equally attractive or maybe only a point behind (e.g. An 8 girl with a 7 guy). Unless a guy has mucho dinero or has his face on TV, I think he can only get a girl 1 point higher than himself on the looks scale.

If you only consider yourself a 6, I think you will feel insecure going after or dating girls who are 8's and up. People DO CARE what others think of them, that is another myth (that people say" I don't care what others think") You don't want people staring at you because you are with a girl out of your range.

Based on facial balance, I consider myself a 6-6.5. The fact that I am tall, in shape, and have nice hair, probably brings me up to a 7-7.5. I am NOT a knockout, therefore I do not go after the 9's and 10's because I would feel insecure. The highest I can probably get without feeling uncomfortable is probably an 8.

So....unless you look like Brad Pitt, Matthew Mcconaughey, Jude Law, Tom Brady or any other guys that have the "perfect face", don't count on getting KNOCKOUT girls.

You may say I am just insecure or engaging in self-limiting behavior, but I think I am right.
Mahon, I usually agree with you on many points and I realize that you have managed to be around here for quite a bit of time, but come the FVCK ON. What the hell is this bullsh!t. Are you telling me that every girl that is beautiful, I should not go for because they WILL NOT go out with me?

BWAH HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
I am probably a five on the looks scale, but I think that I am a ten and think of myself as the GREAT CATCH and have all of the attitudes that make someone great. Just yesterday, I was looking for a lunch table and three girls (everyone considers them 8, 9, or 10's out of 10) came up to me and wanted me to sit with them. WHY? I got my sh!t together and am funny. They all want to date me too.

Wait let me put it this way, YOUR ENTIRE IDEA OF LOOKS VS. PERSONALITY IS BOGUS AND PERSONALITY WILL WIN EVERY TIME!!! I have many people that have bad looks, but get all of the cuties because they know how to get the girls. They know what to say and get more pvssy than any of you will get with that attitude.

I believe it was ( . ) ( . ) that said the best advice on these debates. Girls don't go for looks, they go for whoever is popular or fun or the center of attention. That is what I was before he said it. Reread this, they go for STATUS. Hell, Hitler was the biggest fugly in the world, but he could have always got lots of pvssy. HE WAS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION!!!

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BONUS FR: prove my point

I go to Millersville University where the female to male ratio is 3:1 or something like that. I walked into my swing dance group meeting (first one of the year) and look around. I was just so interested in meeting people that I quickly became the center of attention.

The next day, the vice-president of the group wanted to get into contact with me. I went over to her house for a swing dance lesson and I got definite vibes off of her that she wanted me. I had a girlfriend, but was growing tired of her. I broke up with my girlfriend of one year because of other sh!t (this was just the straw that broke the camel's back).

I went over to her place again and then had a nice make out session and more.

she was a 9 (ex-cheerleader and VP of swing club) and me a 6 (at most).

Sammy Davis Jr. said, "You gotta make them love you." You got to give them a reason to love you though. If you only got looks, than by god you better look like him in order to make it. If you got these some of these traits you can have a lot of success.

1.) Confidence
2.) Charm
3.) Center-of-Attention
4.) Sense of Humor
5.) Self-respect
6.) Self-confidence
7.) Respect for others
8.) ability to fight
9.) Strength (mental and physical)
10.) Spirit
11.) Hobbies
12.) Success
13.) A purpose for getting out of bed
14.) Stories (fun stories that no one else has)
15.) Stability in your life
16.) Friends
17.) Accomplishments
18.) wearing a nice smile
19.) being fun
20.) smarts (nerds can GET women. I am LIVING PROOF of this)

You got even 10 of these things, you can pull the hot women. You got 15 of these things. You WILL pull them. All twenty of them, you pick and choose. I know I do. Don't tell me that fugly guys can't get women. That is bullsh!t.

You are self-limiting yourself, VOLUNTARILY. NOW TELL ME WHY YOU CANNOT GET EIGHTS OR BETTER!!! I DEMAND TO KNOW!!! WHY???

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1.) Confidence
2.) Charm
3.) Center-of-Attention
4.) Sense of Humor
5.) Self-respect
6.) Self-confidence
7.) Respect for others
8.) ability to fight
9.) Strength (mental and physical)
10.) Spirit
11.) Hobbies
12.) Success
13.) A purpose for getting out of bed
14.) Stories (fun stories that no one else has)
15.) Stability in your life
16.) Friends
17.) Accomplishments
18.) wearing a nice smile
19.) being fun
20.) smarts (nerds can GET women. I am LIVING PROOF of this)
You actually put "ability to fight" above accomplishments, intelligence, hobbies, success and circle of friends? Get real dude.
 

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just a quick list that I came up with in no particular order.

If anything, it should be on the lower end of the list of things to do. Although you should make her feel protected

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Depends on the girl, some loves guys who can fight, makes them feel protected.

Looks mean more than most on here think, I know some girls who will ONLY date a real good looking guy. But not necessarily everything is based on looks, some wont care too much. Generally however, it is an unexplained chemistry that will make a girl love you. This comes with push/pull techniques, hot/cold, being nice, funny, respectful, being a man and looking after them etc, but you also need that personality click that no theory can teach you. It just happens.
 
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