Yet another loss for us men:

Mr.Positive

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Guys, here's the answer:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3543478&&CM

"For the first time, a safe, effective and reversible hormonal male contraceptive appears to be within reach. Several formulations are expected to become commercially available within the near future. Men may soon have the options of a daily pill to be taken orally, a patch or gel to be applied to the skin, an injection given every three months or an implant placed under the skin every 12 months, according to Seattle researchers."

Imagine, for men to be in complete control of our own reproduction. That would be a great great feeling. ;)
 

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iqqi said:
There would never be a child in the first place if they never had sex. Everything else becomes irrelevant, unfortunately.

My point is, once your sperm connects with her egg, its over! Its out of your hands! So think twice! Your CHOICE lies in the choice to penetrate.
So...men can't ever have sex again? Yeah, that's going to work!:crackup:

I think you're wrong Iqqi! Let's turn this story around. She DOESN'T want kids and he DOES. So he destroys her birth control pills and refuses to use a condom in an effort to get her pregnant. She gets pregnant with a child she doesn't want and he goes to court to block her from getting an abortion. Sound fair? it's NOT. Neither is what she did to him.

Women have the right to abort or put the child up for adoption. Men have NO rights once the woman is pregnant. This is NOT FAIR and the law should be changed. A man should be able to sign a document that absolves him of all rights and responsibilities to a child born of a woman he's not married to.
 

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iqqi said:
I am not saying Brit is the perfect example, its just one example, where YES, the court has the interest of the CHILD in its mind, not the woman or the man.

Women mostly get custody because they gave birth to the child, and all that stuff about maternal instinct. Its historic, not modern.
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Nope. Men used to get the kids.

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Potbelly said:
After I have sex, I always drop some ethanol (basically in any hand sanitizer) in the condom, mix it up a little, and drip a few drops of TABASCO sauce in there.
Thanks for that Tom Leykis,..heh.

Seriously though, I think it was 2003 that the NBA commission put out an official communication to all teams and players informing the players that they needed to flush or permanently dispose of their used condoms while on road games. It seems that paternity suits were becoming so common an occurance with pro players getting laid on their road games because women were resorting to pulling a soild condom from the trash to "artificially inseminate" themselves that this notice was necesary.

Pregnancy is ALWAYS a woman's choice. "Unplanned", "accidental" pregnancy has become a cottage industry for "career mothers" now.
 

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jonwon said:
Materialistic, manipulating man using social prostitute.

Off topic, but you know what SUCKS?

It's near impossible to have discussions about any of this stuff with normal people. You say things like that in public and you are automatically categorized into some bitter man who obviously can't have productive relationships or even get laid. EVEN if you put it into nicer terms than how you phrased it.

And it's bullsh1t.

I have one female friend saying i stereotype all women any time i make any remark about women. I'm known to take things straight fromt his board and say them mostly directed at male friends right in front of women like "never listen to what a woman says. Only what she does" and i get in trouble for it from the girl who overheard it. It's hardly a "just a stereotype" anymore when it's true 94% of the time!

I can and do get laid plenty but my problem is that so damn few women are worth a relationship even if that's what i'd prefer. And if you ever give an inkling to a woman that there aren't many quality women in a relationship they immediately start their battle cry of "i'm different!!!!!" Ha.***

I even had one girl tell me i was a terrible person because i take girls home and sleep with them. She seriously expects me to go celibate or at the least have just one fvck buddy until I have a relationship. But that's ridiculous since any real relationship is far and few between since i refuse to just settle for some second rate blob of a woman just to regularly have sex! Women force me into doing this by being terrible people and then blame me for it! I really just want a pretty, intelligent, witty, stable, thoughtful woman who doesn't view me as something to use for money and social standing to see regularly. That's what women say is good! That's what my mommy tells me! It's not my fault women are broken.


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Just as an aside b1tch... i hate answering the question of "what do you do." I don't want women to know i make good money at least at first.. but if you don't answer they assume you're dirt poor.




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Most women read this and say something like, "Well I'm not the average woman because..blah...blah...not true...blah blah...my boyfriend/lover/husband/masseuse was poor...blah...blah."

If you thought something like this you are very likely the average woman. If you read it and went "Hmmm..." and then you went back to doing physics, then you have a case.
 

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I know I'm playing russian roulette, but I hate condoms with a PASSION.

I guess it's a good thing that I don't fukk a whole lot of different women, cause I find it very difficult to enjoy sex with a piece of rubber numbing me down.

To be honest, as many chances as I have taken, I would say there's a pretty damn good possibility that I can't have kids.

Sh!t like this is scary though. Makes me think twice. I gotta remember that little trick I learned.......have her suck your d!ck and get it NICE AND WET right before you don the jimmy hat. Makes a BIG difference.
 

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mrRuckus - About the whole taking plenty of women back and shagging them and then saying it's their fault.

What a load of crap. What you're doing isn't wrong because ultimately they've chosen to do that and women enjoy sex as much as guys. They only throw that moral bull**** at you because they don't want you to leave, not because they didn't want to have sex with you.

However don't pretend that you're not staying with them because they're not quality woman, if you have no problem getting laid then you have no problem getting a quality woman (there's plenty out there). You just don't want to. You probably are just setting the bar too high so EVERY woman can't match it and therefore you can blame them guilt free.

Anyway - As for the case. Too bad, he was tricked. It happens everyday and the law can't legislate for his stupidity.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
Guys, here's the answer:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3543478&&CM

"For the first time, a safe, effective and reversible hormonal male contraceptive appears to be within reach. Several formulations are expected to become commercially available within the near future. Men may soon have the options of a daily pill to be taken orally, a patch or gel to be applied to the skin, an injection given every three months or an implant placed under the skin every 12 months, according to Seattle researchers."

Imagine, for men to be in complete control of our own reproduction. That would be a great great feeling. ;)
That sucker better come out quick. This might be worthy of it's own thread. And yes I would take one of its forms. I'd always be on some form of birth control. OMG that sounds so funny :crackup: Use a condom for new girls and take it off for LTRs and no chance of kids.

Mr. Brown from the article said:
“It is time for men to have some control. I think it would empower men and deter some women out there from their nefarious plans,” says Brown. “Some women are out there to use men to get pregnant. This could deter women from doing this. An athlete or a singer is someone who could be a target and they could put a stop to that.”
It is now believed that an MHC in the form of a daily pill could be available on the market within 5 to 7 years and implants could arrive even sooner.
WaterTiger said:
Women have the right to abort or put the child up for adoption. Men have NO rights once the woman is pregnant. This is NOT FAIR and the law should be changed. A man should be able to sign a document that absolves him of all rights and responsibilities to a child born of a woman he's not married to.
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WaterTiger said:
So...men can't ever have sex again? Yeah, that's going to work!
That is NOT what I said.

What I said was that if a man has sex with a woman, he should be well aware that she could be the mother of his child in 9 months. So maybe men should be a little more picky.

Doesn't matter if you agree or not, the plain cold fact of the matter is... sex = baby. I learned this in middle school sex education.
 

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iqqi said:
I am not saying Brit is the perfect example, its just one example, where YES, the court has the interest of the CHILD in its mind, not the woman or the man.

Women mostly get custody because they gave birth to the child, and all that stuff about maternal instinct. Its historic, not modern.
But what's modern and not historic is forcing the man to pay child support to a woman he's not with.
 

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ketostix said:
But what's modern and not historic is forcing the man to pay child support to a woman he's not with.
And for a baby he's not allowed to be a proper father to if he wants. Both people consented to the sex, both people are 50% genetic contributers. But because the baby grows inside the woman for 9 months and not the man, she has complete control over the situation and the baby's life, and the father has none, yet he's still responsible to work himself to death for a baby that's barely in his life. THAT'S what is outrageous about the laws.
 

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d9930380 said:
Anyway - As for the case. Too bad, he was tricked. It happens everyday and the law can't legislate for his stupidity.
What? Well using deception for monetary gain is called fraud and it is illegal. And besides that, the law shouldn't reward the fraudulent party.
 

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iqqi said:
What I said was that if a man has sex with a woman, he should be well aware that she could be the mother of his child in 9 months. So maybe men should be a little more picky.
And men should take responsibility when their actions go awry, even accidentally. However . . . is this for men only, or for women as well?

I think their are two options that would make the law sexually egalitarian:

1. Allow men the choice of forfeiting parental rights along with their support obligations AND continuing to allow women the right of abortion.

2. A man who looses the gamble of safe sex, and creates an unwanted pregnancy, should face the music AND a women who looses the same gamble should 'man up' and carry the child to term, and raise it, in a nation where abortion is just as illegal as child-support evasion.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Off topic, but you know what SUCKS?

It's near impossible to have discussions about any of this stuff with normal people. You say things like that in public and you are automatically categorized into some bitter man who obviously can't have productive relationships or even get laid. EVEN if you put it into nicer terms than how you phrased it.

And it's bullsh1t.

I have one female friend saying i stereotype all women any time i make any remark about women. I'm known to take things straight fromt his board and say them mostly directed at male friends right in front of women like "never listen to what a woman says. Only what she does" and i get in trouble for it from the girl who overheard it. It's hardly a "just a stereotype" anymore when it's true 94% of the time!

I can and do get laid plenty but my problem is that so damn few women are worth a relationship even if that's what i'd prefer. And if you ever give an inkling to a woman that there aren't many quality women in a relationship they immediately start their battle cry of "i'm different!!!!!" Ha.***

I even had one girl tell me i was a terrible person because i take girls home and sleep with them. She seriously expects me to go celibate or at the least have just one fvck buddy until I have a relationship. But that's ridiculous since any real relationship is far and few between since i refuse to just settle for some second rate blob of a woman just to regularly have sex! Women force me into doing this by being terrible people and then blame me for it! I really just want a pretty, intelligent, witty, stable, thoughtful woman who doesn't view me as something to use for money and social standing to see regularly. That's what women say is good! That's what my mommy tells me! It's not my fault women are broken.


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Just as an aside b1tch... i hate answering the question of "what do you do." I don't want women to know i make good money at least at first.. but if you don't answer they assume you're dirt poor.




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When you stare into the abyss, its impossible to get back to normality.

Your friends i.e are just living in blissful ignorance, its guys like your mates who will be:

1. With single mothers.
2. A wage slave.
3. A emotional tampon to the whims of there partner.
4. Will tolerate women bad behaviour out of fear and ignorance
5. Are more likley to get raped in courts or manipulated to conform to a women and social structure.

Raise your head up high brother!

Your out of the loop, so what the uneducated AFC cant see women past her own make up, but you, you can see exactly what your letting yourself in-for

In that you are firmly in charge of your own destiny.

Dont stray from the path even if it means staying single for life.
Better to be single and HAPPY then to lower your own self Standards.

I highly doubt a women is going to be taking advantage of you anytime soon, in that your empowered to choose a women based on her qualities and not conform like sheep to choose any typical western women.

Also trust me trying to convert your mates, will never happen, i know this all two well, i even have lost mates through these actions, whislt i see them:

1. Get shacked up with single mothers.
2. Get cheated on left right and center, simply cos they choose to make a lady out of a coc* loving tart.
3. Have there lives turned upside down when they tow the line and sacrifice there mates, life e.t.c to some jelouse whims of a women.
4. Will excuse women's bad behaviour in the hope of getting in there pant's even if its demorolising to the man.
5. Have no problems funding her lavish expense, simply cos she is hot, even when she does it infront of other people and is clearly making a statement of 'i have this chump right where i want him, watch!'.
6. Will blame men for women's fuc* ups even to the point of loosing friendships, women are never accountable for there actions to AFC chumps.

Hence you will only loose mates as you try to break them out of the mould, men alot of MEN or so called men, WILL SACRIFICE SELF RESPECT< LOGIC AND MATES for Puss*!

Sorry in bold, but your on a higher plane, just smile to yourself and know full well your probably dodging bullets Matrix style so fast no one else can see em!
 

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In my law-ethics class we were going through some Supreme Court rulings with regards to paternity tests and child custody, and in EVERY case the female supreme court justices sided with the women. In one case where the father was 90% sure that the kid wasn't his, and asked for a DNA case, ALL the female justices rejected it, while a few male justices wanted the DNA-test.

So whatever you might believe, the judicial system is biased towards women.
 

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Centaurion said:
In one case where the father was 90% sure that the kid wasn't his, and asked for a DNA case, ALL the female justices rejected it, while a few male justices wanted the DNA-test.
This is the type of situation where men really take it up the @ss. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? To reject a DNA-test in a court of law is completely in bad ethics, what reason did they give for the rejection?

What did the justices tell the guy?

"Well, we 'feel' you're the father, so by default, pony up for the next 18 years. We know a DNA-test will show the truth, however we're female justices, so our decision is based upon emotions. We don't have time for facts. Be gone male slave of the system!!"
 

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iqqi said:
I definately think that if a man is not the biological father, he should not be responsible. Unless he adopted the child legally.
But what women are trying to do and are doing is fvck any and every guy she wants then pick the guy with the most assets or availability to pay. And the laws and courts are facilitating her to do so. It has nothing to do with children, it's about women exploiting men. It's just government sanctioned fraud and sexism basically and enabling and rewarding poor female behavior. The whole system is female biased and women want it that way.
 

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They say ("they" being the courts) that they are acting "in the best interest of the child."

Well, SH*T, then, why don't the courts award my kids (via ME, of course, as their guardian/parent) a bunch of cash each month from my local or state government, or from the local school district, or from my ex's PARENTS, or from the largest local employer, or from SOMEONE?

Wouldn't THAT be "in the best interest" of my kid? To have bunch of free money coming in? (That I could control, and have NO accountability for how it was spent.)

This stuff is SO maddening.




"Justice and fairness have nothing to do with all this. Accept it."

THAT'S what my "family law" attorney told me. The system sucks.-
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Mr.Positive said:
This is the type of situation where men really take it up the @ss. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? To reject a DNA-test in a court of law is completely in bad ethics, what reason did they give for the rejection?

What did the justices tell the guy?

"Well, we 'feel' you're the father, so by default, pony up for the next 18 years. We know a DNA-test will show the truth, however we're female justices, so our decision is based upon emotions. We don't have time for facts. Be gone male slave of the system!!"
Keep in mind that this is in Norway, and not in the US. The Supreme Court told that todays legislation didn't allow DNA-testing to be introduced as evidence in order to reopen the case.

But on the other hand, last year a female got sentenced to jail for raping a man at a party (the man woke up and the female was giving him head without his consent so he pressed charges).
 
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