Yet another loss for us men:

[azanon]

Article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/wayoflife/11/06/fatherhood.ap/index.html


Clip:
"A three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a decision released Tuesday, agreed with a lower court judge that Matthew Dubay's suit was frivolous.

Dubay, 25, had said ex-girlfriend Lauren Wells knew he didn't want to have a child and assured him repeatedly she couldn't get pregnant because of a medical condition.

He argued that if a pregnant woman can choose among abortion, adoption or raising a child, a man involved in an unintended pregnancy should have the choice of declining the financial responsibilities of fatherhood."

 

[jonwon]

Article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/wayoflife/11/06/fatherhood.ap/index.html


Clip:
"A three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a decision released Tuesday, agreed with a lower court judge that Matthew Dubay's suit was frivolous.

Dubay, 25, had said ex-girlfriend Lauren Wells knew he didn't want to have a child and assured him repeatedly she couldn't get pregnant because of a medical condition.

He argued that if a pregnant woman can choose among abortion, adoption or raising a child, a man involved in an unintended pregnancy should have the choice of declining the financial responsibilities of fatherhood."

Depends how you look at it.

Real educated men out of the matrix, or fematrix would have never believed the skank anyway. Or i would have never told her where i lived, either way, it's just testiment to how much a man is very much a slave to a women’s hidden agenda.

I am glad these things are reported on, otherwise men would never know to what extremes women would do, to get there agenda catered to at the expense of men.

Regardless the man in question is a dumb fuc* to ever trust a women on her words alone, if anything experience proves what women say is not consistent with there actions or true motives and men have the nerve to argue morals with each other, little do they know most women dont have any morals past her own self interest.

The judge also is i guess, working after the act, but in that he is doing nothing other then rewarding all female skank whor*s the opportunity to lie, cheat and screw men over and in that keep feeding the women with kids agenda.

But not to worry there are many men, even on these boards who are more then happy to register to a dating site only to be shacked up with some single mother who just happened to get up the duff after seeing a guy for a month or so, but i guess it was the guys fault the women could not keep her legs closed or forced his man juice inside her.

And yes i have encountered many a women like this who claim they can not get pregnant, this will be a nice warning to most men who take women by there word, which is imo one of the most stupidest things a man can ever do.

Not to mention that poor smuck has his wages increase he will only be expected to pay more for a child he never wanted and was tricked into fathering, not to mention the poor kid who is now going to grow up fatherless (home maker), to a guy who could have made a great father but is probably now so fuc*ed off with the social shi* to father another child, hence she has most probably robbed a future husband and good father as well as deprived another human to a role model for her selfish agenda, which the laws of the land are more then happy to oblige.


Yes stuff like this makes me sick, especcially when there are so many aspiring PUA and DJ'S trying to bag women, when the truth is most of these dont know exactly what there 'letting themselves in for' instead they worry about how to act, what to say, how to preform and what the best thing to do in x y z situation, its a shame since most women are actually operating on how the can manipulate to there selfish agenda, i say reverse the trend.

Take girls like this give them what they want (but double bag it) then wipe your coc* on the cutains and make a sharp swift exit.

Sad fact is believe it or not most women are simply good for fuc*ing only, even then, they have found ways to make a man 'pay'. No wonder most men see women has a sex commodity, since women have no problems in using men also, exept when a women uses a man its to cater to what's expected.

But at the end of the day the guy is simply a dumb fuc* for not knowing how women can operate, hence educating yourself on the 'fairer' sex can remove the potential for paternity fraud or baby entrapment.

Its a shame 'nice guys' will make excuses for a women who has effectivly fuc*ed at least two lives, i am sure she will meet some nice guy AFC on her journey she may even accumalte 2-5 more babies to different dadda's, hence her wage will go up has there's go down, lol dumb fuc*s deserve it tbh.

 

[azanon]

Take girls like this give them what they want (but double bag it) then wipe your coc* on the cutains and make a sharp swift exit.

Also, if you happen to be over at her place, think of some way to avoid simply tossing the condoms in her trashcan.

If its warm in the room, those little buggers might just remain viable after you walk out and then she goes and digs it/them out of the trash, grabs the nearest file and pokes the whole lot of it up inside her. As extreme as that may sound, I wouldn't put it past some of them. I trust a woman about as far as I can throw a large one.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

It's called "birth conrol" because you 'control' the birth. So who do you want controlling a birth, you or her? Any woman that says "don't worry about it, I'm on the pill", "I can't get pregnant", "I'm allergic to latex", or "don't put that thing on, I WANT TO FEEL YOU!" is controlling the birth. NEXT any woman who utters these words. Always wear a condom.

If "date rape" is casually having sex with a woman without her implicit consent, shouldn't we call deliberate pregancy after implying an innability to become pregnant "birth fraud"?

 

[joekerr31]

you know, one of the most prevailing charateristics of most women is that they are experts and rationalizing why they aren't to blame.

whether it be cheating on you, treating you poorly, limiting sex, etc. - women will blame all their poor behaviors on you.

but, this is NOTHING compared to a woman with a child. once you give a woman a child her ability to rationalize her behavior goes OUT OF THIS world. in her mind she will suck you dry of anything and everything you have and won't feel an ounce of guilt over it.

i just can't emphasize enough how important it is to only have children with a high quality woman. i tell guys to be careful who they marry, but primarily i do this because you want to be careful who you have kids with.

her taking half your money sucks, but you can make money again.

but to create a human being that is 50% part b*tch - i couldn't live with myself.

but anyway, once women have kids they will do ANYTHING. recently Dr. Phil had some guy on who after 10 years suspected his kid wasn't his. so he had the dna checked and it turned out his child wasn't his. the wife knew this also, but kept it hidden. now they are divorced and she is suing him for child support - and she sees absolutely nothing wrong with what she has done.

if you ask me this guy should be suing her for like a million bucks or something. she should be in jail for lying like she did.

but in the end the ones who lose are the kids. this poor kid loses a good dad and gets stuck with a lying b*tch mother - her life goes from perfect to total sh*t over night. all because of her mother (btw, the daughter blames dad for all this. no surprise given mom is filling her head with cr*p about how her dad abadoned her.)

anyway, my statements above apply to a lot of women, but not all women. some women are honest, trust worthy people. but many are snakes that will swallow you whole if you aren't careful.

 

[AgonyUncle]

It's called "birth conrol" because you 'control' the birth. So who do you want controlling a birth, you or her? Any woman that says "don't worry about it, I'm on the pill", "I can't get pregnant", "I'm allergic to latex", or "don't put that thing on, I WANT TO FEEL YOU!" is controlling the birth. NEXT any woman who utters these words. Always wear a condom.

If "date rape" is casually having sex with a woman without her implicit consent, shouldn't we call deliberate pregancy after implying an innability to become pregnant "birth fraud"?

Agree with everything you say excpet one point. Some women are actually allergic to latex. However, saying that, I think its so rare that you would need to be cautious if she is asking you to go bareback

 

[WaterTiger]

Some women are actually allergic to latex.

They do have NON-latex condoms!

Hell, use a sandwich bag if you have to bang her THAT bad!

I think this Matthew Dubay should SUE for custody and take the baby away from this scheming b!tch. Or at least be able to sign a paper saying he gives up ALL rights to the child and NOT have to pay support. The woman wanted the baby...she can fukcing pay for it!

 

[iqqi]

I don't know.

I mean, some women don't view a pregnancy as a choice. If they get pregnant, they have a baby.

In this specific case, they were in a committed relationship, where they had sex on a routine basis. Sex = baby. Even if she had a "medical condition", ever hear of miracle babies? Its not like she was some random h0 trying to get pregnant, and then get a mans dollar.

I think it is sad that a man would leave his child to fend for itself in this world, whether or not the child was planned. Just to make a point. But that speaks on the man himself. I mean, it isn't "her daughter", it is also his.

Sex = baby. That will always be! Sex is for reproduction above all. You have to always consider this, even when you use a condom (which sometimes fail), that h0 you are poking could be the mother of your child in 9 months!

Also, and more to the point, I think that when these cases go before a judge, the judge is not considering the man or the woman's viewpoint or wishes. They are considering the child.

 

[Last Man Standing]

True post Jonwon - it is much harsher than anything I've posted! Do you hate women or do you hate the conniving deceit??

 

[KarmaSutra]

I'll say that what comes out of her mouth is completely poles apart from what her vagina and ovaries are saying. I was with a woman at her place and we started to get kind of heavy and she takes me out and starts to go down. After a bit she turns around and, without so much as a whimper, sits on my c0ck and gets to rocking.

I fvcking freak out and try to throw her off but she is pushing down and bucking hard as hell when she tells me this gem:

"Come in me. Don't worry I'm fixed."

I called her a fvcking dishrag cvnt knowing that would get her off of me and she buckles in the corner of the bed furious and crying. I ask her if she's out of her goddamned mind because I don't want any fvcking crumbsnatchers popping out for a surprise party at the baby wing of the hospital.

I grabbed my sh!t and hauled ass. What's funny is that she completely rationalized her behaviour to the point that it was my fault we weren't going to be a "couple" (which I had never intended and even told her as such) because she couldn't trust me.

The first time irony has worked in my favor.

 

[ketostix]

Sex = baby. That will always be! Sex is for reproduction above all. You have to always consider this, even when you use a condom (which sometimes fail), that h0 you are poking could be the mother of your child in 9 months!

What's that got to do with a woman lying about her ability to get pregnant, then having the veto vote of whether she has the child or not, and the man must pay support and the woman getting custody by default?

[QUOTEAlso, and more to the point, I think that when these cases go before a judge, the judge is not considering the man or the woman's viewpoint or wishes. They are considering the child.][/QUOTE]

No, the judge is just handing custody to the mother and making the man pay child support, point blank. Give custody to the woman and making the man pay money to her doesn't necessarily equal the best interest of the child, but the courts and judges don't care. They are pro-female and antimale.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I think that when these cases go before a judge, the judge is not considering the man or the woman's viewpoint or wishes. They are considering the child.

yes, that is the modern legal standard; you are correct.

 

[iqqi]

What's that got to do with a woman lying about her ability to get pregnant, then having the veto vote of whether she has the child or not, and the man must pay support and the woman getting custody by default?

There would never be a child in the first place if they never had sex. Everything else becomes irrelevant, unfortunately.

My point is, once your sperm connects with her egg, its over! Its out of your hands! So think twice! Your CHOICE lies in the choice to penetrate.

I am not going to discuss further the second part of what you quoted, because I just simply disagree period. Look at Brit. Who has custody? Not Brit. It is the children that come first, not men and their "woe is me" whining, or women and their "femi-nazi" intentions.

 

[KarmaSutra]

No, the judge is just handing custody to the mother and making the man pay child support, point blank. Give custody to the woman and making the man pay money to her doesn't necessarily equal the best interest of the child, but the courts and judges don't care. They are pro-female and antimale.

Blunt but unfortunately quite true. The legal system wants someone, ANYONE, to be responsible for the long term care of a child. They're aware that men have a much higher probability of keeping a stable job and income in order to provide said care than a woman. Men are truly the victims of this type of sexual perjury and the defense is usually: " I'm a weak and lowly woman, please kind sir, don't take this out on me. This man had every chance to protect himself from me but I got him too excited and he blew his load in my gut." "It's all his fault!"

And brothers DO NOT HAVE KIDS IN CALIFORNIA. Even if you aren't the biological father, if you've been providing for that little motherfvcker you'll keep doing it until S/he turns 18. The courts will see to it. Men have no rights whatsoever when it comes to children in CA. If you're stupid enough to knock up a one nighter or a fling you better pray for rain and pray for tidal waves then learn to swim because you're fvcked.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Always wear a condom.

I know that's the correct and logical answer, but fwiw I gave up on condoms long ago. LTRs get a guy hooked on no condoms. Wearing a condom, I might as well just wear a strap-on. It's a joke; I feel next to nothing. Anything but Magnums are too small, and Magnums are too big. Plus, you can still get herpes, molluscum, and hpv. I hate condoms, and I am never wearing one again. I keep getting GFs who are on the pill, and there is no way I am wearing a condom with a girl who is on the pill. One girl actually tried to make me, and that lasted about a day. Maybe it is me getting older, but I am not scared of babies. All my friends have kids, none of which were planned. If you have sex, babies happen, condoms or not. Birth control is obviously the way to go, but in a LTR I think condoms are pointless. Like Sam Kinison said, "If you don't trust the pvssy, why are are you fvcking the pvssy?" I trust myself to choose women wisely. The girl I have been with this week, she's on the depo shot, but we are both pro-life and I know she'd have the baby if she got knocked up, which is what I'd want. She's a very intelligent HB9, so if she and I had a kid it would have some great genes. Kids are not the end of the world, and condoms are not that great of a protection against them. If you are all so worried about knocking up conniving evil b!tches, then focus on not having sex with those women at all, condom or not. Because when you start thinking ,"she's a dumb gutter wh0re, but it's ok cause I'm wrapping up," then the joke is going to be on you when the condom breaks or falls off, and you knock her up, or the condoms works flawlessly, and you still get warts of herpes. Choose wisely whom you fvck, condom or not.

 

[jonwon]

True post Jonwon - it is much harsher than anything I've posted! Do you hate women or do you hate the conniving deceit??

No i dont hate women, i still have this wierd ideal that someday maybe some women will come along who happens to break the mold from the typical western women of:

Materialistic, manipulating man using social prostitute.

And happens to be attractive enough to float my boat for more then just a passing FB status.

But tbh i dont think i will find it in the western sphere.
Yes i dislike modern western women, but i am not the only one, most men are starting to grow a very unhealthy dislike for the 'modern western women'.

So far women are only good for sport fuc*ing, i choose to be single along time ago, actually after i broke up with my ex, this was due to the fact modern western women are usually not worth anything then jizzing your spunk over there tits and making a sharp exit.

Dam i do sound like a women hater, lol.

We all know its true to a large % anyway.

 

[ketostix]

My point is, once your sperm connects with her egg, its over! Its out of your hands! So think twice! Your CHOICE lies in the choice to penetrate.

Duh, I know that, we all know how the system is set up. But if it's out of male's hands then it should be out of his responsibility too. It shouldn't be a woman's choice but a man's responsibility.

I am not going to discuss further the second part of what you quoted, because I just simply disagree period. Look at Brit. Who has custody? Not Brit. It is the children that come first, not men and their "woe is me" whining, or women and their "femi-nazi" intentions.

Britney is basically the male in that situation. You take one out of the ordinary situation then extrapolate it to mean children come first. That's not how it works in 99% of cases, the woman gets custody and the guy's money and takes the money and wastes it and abuses the children lol. Well basically that's what happens.

You're missing the point though. The law is set up to make the man pay, even if the children are biologically not his because women are mostly irresponsible and lazy. And you call victimizing men to enable crappy women and mothers to exist as being in the best interst of children. Feminist.

Bible-Belt, ever heard of paternity fraud? Also you seem to not understand the ideas of probability and risk.

 

[jonwon]

Has for britney, it took a court case and the fact that SHE IS A POOR MOTHER (another typcial western fuc*ed up skank imo) to get custody away from HER. 100% and i mean 100% the kids normally go to the MOTHER even if she is a social reject (sorry re-phrase more like a social normality) who cant look after herself never mind a baby.

Britney is a poor example and i am ashamed to even respond to such a weak pathetic argument.

But then again Britney is a FINE example of MODERN WESTERN WOMEN!

She would be sport fuc*ed ONLY!

 

[iqqi]

I am not saying Brit is the perfect example, its just one example, where YES, the court has the interest of the CHILD in its mind, not the woman or the man.

Women mostly get custody because they gave birth to the child, and all that stuff about maternal instinct. Its historic, not modern.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I know that's the correct and logical answer, but fwiw I gave up on condoms long ago. LTRs get a guy hooked on no condoms. Wearing a condom, I might as well just wear a strap-on. It's a joke; I feel next to nothing. Anything but Magnums are too small, and Magnums are too big. Plus, you can still get herpes, molluscum, and hpv. I hate condoms, and I am never wearing one again. I keep getting GFs who are on the pill, and there is no way I am wearing a condom with a girl who is on the pill. One girl actually tried to make me, and that lasted about a day. Maybe it is me getting older, but I am not scared of babies. All my friends have kids, none of which were planned. If you have sex, babies happen, condoms or not. Birth control is obviously the way to go, but in a LTR I think condoms are pointless. Like Sam Kinison said, "If you don't trust the pvssy, why are are you fvcking the pvssy?" I trust myself to choose women wisely. The girl I have been with this week, she's on the depo shot, but we are both pro-life and I know she'd have the baby if she got knocked up, which is what I'd want. She's a very intelligent HB9, so if she and I had a kid it would have some great genes. Kids are not the end of the world, and condoms are not that great of a protection against them. If you are all so worried about knocking up conniving evil b!tches, then focus on not having sex with those women at all, condom or not. Because when you start thinking ,"she's a dumb gutter wh0re, but it's ok cause I'm wrapping up," then the joke is going to be on you when the condom breaks or falls off, and you knock her up, or the condoms works flawlessly, and you still get warts of herpes. Choose wisely whom you fvck, condom or not.

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