Yesterday sloots are todays good deal

[Who Dares Win]

Do you recall back in the late 00s when a woman who had 10 sexual partners was considered unfit for any serious relationship?

Now in 2020 most guys would be lucky to get a gf with such low amount given the average...

By 2030 any girl that didnt get railed on onlyfans would be considered a prude...yeah bro my girl only shows her ass on instagram everyday twice a day but never had an onlyfan account, she also told me that she didnt do unprotected an@l before second date, Im glad I managed to have her to settle for me.

Lol at guys here who say that you have to "game your wife" otherwise she loses interest...

 

[Georgepithyou]

At some point surely we will see a change right? Will the pendulum ever swing back?

 

[Focal core]

Its over for screeningcells

 

[SW15]

Do you recall back in the late 00s when a woman who had 10 sexual partners was considered unfit for any serious relationship?

10 sexual partners, even in the late 2000s, wouldn't have been much. Think about a 30 year old woman who has been in the mating environment for 15 years. 10 partners in 15 years isn't much.

Should you put a ring on it? Likely not. But an extended relationship with no marriage and no kids? It's not the worst option.

 

[r4zorsharp]

This is just an extremist idea. As humans we tend to focus on the Negatives a lot more strongly than we focus on the mundane or the good.

There's a very small percentage of women who use onlyfans or sleep with multiple partners. Though we tend to see it the most. Why? it's because we're constantly thinking about sex and women and sexual things.

The only men who complain about this type of stuff don't get laid much. (From what ive learned about Men)

 

[zinc4]

Do you recall back in the late 00s when a woman who had 10 sexual partners was considered unfit for any serious relationship?

Now in 2020 most guys would be lucky to get a gf with such low amount given the average...

By 2030 any girl that didnt get railed on onlyfans would be considered a prude...yeah bro my girl only shows her ass on instagram everyday twice a day but never had an onlyfan account, she also told me that she didnt do unprotected an@l before second date, Im glad I managed to have her to settle for me.

Lol at guys here who say that you have to "game your wife" otherwise she loses interest...

Pro tip. Dont seriously date any western anglo women. Just pnd.

 

[Who Dares Win]

This is just an extremist idea. As humans we tend to focus on the Negatives a lot more strongly than we focus on the mundane or the good.

There's a very small percentage of women who use onlyfans or sleep with multiple partners. Though we tend to see it the most. Why? it's because we're constantly thinking about sex and women and sexual things.

The only men who complain about this type of stuff don't get laid much. (From what ive learned about Men)

Lol spaz I like how you try to keep a low profile but still cant stop yourself to throw some ad hominem in the end...try not to get banned this time too ;*

 

[Medina]

When I was growing up being a sloot was a bad thing. Today's young women are PROUD to be sloots. Literally. The goal is to have "experiences". That's all they care about

Responsibility, meaning, philosophy, morals etc are like alien concepts to women

That's why they support abortion and other causes that pretty much allow them to do whatever they want at any given time. And they won't slow down until they feel all those "experiences" have been met

 

[Bigpapa]

This is just an extremist idea. As humans we tend to focus on the Negatives a lot more strongly than we focus on the mundane or the good.

There's a very small percentage of women who use onlyfans or sleep with multiple partners. Though we tend to see it the most. Why? it's because we're constantly thinking about sex and women and sexual things.

The only men who complain about this type of stuff don't get laid much. (From what ive learned about Men)

yeah depends a lot on which environment you are choosing for dating

if you stay on dating apps , usually the quality of women is way lower than what you can find in the real life , as the quality ones either are in a relationship , either have quality guys already courting her and she does not need the validation from thirsty low value guys

that is why it is important as a guy to be active in as many environments as possible , and after a while to see which one is generating the most high value women leads

sure , there are some girls who are very promiscuous , but there are also women who are in a relationship with 1 guy since high school . And most of the women are somehow in the middle

 

[Bigpapa]

When I was growing up being a sloot was a bad thing. Today's young women are PROUD to be sloots. Literally. The goal is to have "experiences". That's all they care about

Responsibility, meaning, philosophy, morals etc are like alien concepts to women

That's why they support abortion and other causes that pretty much allow them to do whatever they want at any given time. And they aren't slowing down until they feel all those "experiences" have been met

they behave like this because men let them behave like this. If guys on average had higher standards in regards to ltr you would see women change their behavior

 

[SW15]

Pro tip. Dont seriously date any western anglo women. Just pnd.

This is sound advice. I'm mostly physically attracted to Anglo/Non-Hispanic White & Hispanic women. I live in the United States. I've never lived internationally. I've interacted with more Anglo/Non-Hispanic white women than Hispanic women. Non-Hispanic White, native USA born women in the United States are highly sought after. They often ghost, flake, act rude and entitled, and are somewhat biatchy.

You will deal with a lot of aggravation if dealing with Non-Hispanic White women in the United States. Hispanic women in the United States are a little bit better, but not much. If they've been more recent arrivals to the United States. The same could be said for white, Eastern European women who have recently arrived in the USA and were raised in places like Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine, and Russia.

The USA is a mating cesspool.

we were dating 18-22yo then, at least I was

In 2005-09, I don't think a woman with 10 prior sexual partners was perceived much differently than today. 10 isn't a huge notch count but it is enough to reduce an ability to pair bond.

The thing that will keep a woman's notch count rise is an absence of long term relationships where she didn't cheat. As an example, a close friend is in his early 30s and has had the same girlfriend/wife since they were both in college 10 years ago. If she's been faithful, which I think she has been, she's only had 1 partner in 10 years. Now, it is unknown how many partners she had from ~15 to age 21-22 when they got together. She likely had 1-3 long term boyfriends in that time, so I doubt her notch count is above 5. At her peak in her late teens/early 20s, she was a high level "cute" gal. I would have rated her in the 7-7.5 range at her peak. I first met her in person at age 23 but I saw pics of her at 19-20 and she looked fantastic there. According to my ratings now, she's around a 6 in her early 30s. She had the potential to have a high notch count but it doesn't seem in her personality. I could be misjudging but I don't think so.

My friend put a ring on that.

 

[christie]

This is sound advice. I'm mostly physically attracted to Anglo/Non-Hispanic White & Hispanic women. I live in the United States. I've never lived internationally. I've interacted with more Anglo/Non-Hispanic white women than Hispanic women. Non-Hispanic White, native USA born women in the United States are highly sought after. They often ghost, flake, act rude and entitled, and are somewhat biatchy.

You will deal with a lot of aggravation if dealing with Non-Hispanic White women in the United States. Hispanic women in the United States are a little bit better, but not much. If they've been more recent arrivals to the United States. The same could be said for white, Eastern European women who have recently arrived in the USA and were raised in places like Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine, and Russia.

The USA is a mating cesspool.



In 2005-09, I don't think a woman with 10 prior sexual partners was perceived much differently than today. 10 isn't a huge notch count but it is enough to reduce an ability to pair bond.

The thing that will keep a woman's notch count rise is an absence of long term relationships where she didn't cheat. As an example, a close friend is in his early 30s and has had the same girlfriend/wife since they were both in college 10 years ago. If she's been faithful, which I think she has been, she's only had 1 partner in 10 years. Now, it is unknown how many partners she had from ~15 to age 21-22 when they got together. She likely had 1-3 long term boyfriends in that time, so I doubt her notch count is above 5. At her peak in her late teens/early 20s, she was a high level "cute" gal. I would have rated her in the 7-7.5 range at her peak. I first met her in person at age 23 but I saw pics of her at 19-20 and she looked fantastic there. According to my ratings now, she's around a 6 in her early 30s. She had the potential to have a high notch count but it doesn't seem in her personality. I could be misjudging but I don't think so.

My friend put a ring on that.

just out of nosiness and curiosity, what specifically dropped her hb rating in your eyes that much(1.5)?
skin and fat? hair? or a disappointing change in personality?

 

[SW15]

just out of nosiness and curiosity, what specifically dropped her hb rating in your eyes that much(1.5)?
skin and fat? hair? or a disappointing change in personality?

I don't rate much on personality. As for her personality, it was neither something that added value nor detracted from value when I met her and I feel the same way now. She was already in a 1 year+ relationship with my friend when I first met her not long after meeting my friend.

I don't think she's working out as much as she was in her late teens and early 20s. I have not seen her in person since late 2019. She's likely gained weight and likely increased her body fat percentage. When I first met her in 2011, I was impressed with her look, being 23. She has no kids.

 

[christie]

I don't rate much on personality. As for her personality, it was neither something that added value nor detracted from value when I met her and I feel the same way now. She was already in a 1 year+ relationship with my friend when I first met her not long after meeting my friend.

I don't think she's working out as much as she was in her late teens and early 20s. I have not seen her in person since late 2019. She's likely gained weight and likely increased her body fat percentage. When I first met her in 2011, I was impressed with her look, being 23. She has no kids.

Yes, the lack of tone and just generally more fat is not something that can be disguised with clothing to discerning DJs. Like you or someone here said in the last few months, a girl can increase her smv just by being skinny.
A trick of the eye to detract from age. All people think this.
I saw an older lady who was fit/skinny and wearing an early 20's trendy winter jacket and cute-sy hat who was walking away from me as I drove by and sure enough I was fooled by her age (in her face and white hair - mid60's at least)
She was as thin as a 20 yr old and dressed like one from behind

 

[SW15]

Yes, the lack of tone and just generally more fat is not something that can be disguised with clothing to discerning DJs. Like you or someone here said in the last few months, a girl can increase her smv just by being skinny.
A trick of the eye to detract from age. All people think this.
I saw an older lady who was fit/skinny and wearing an early 20's trendy winter jacket and cute-sy hat who was walking away from me as I drove by and sure enough I was fooled by her age (in her face and white hair - mid60's at least)
She was as thin as a 20 yr old and dressed like one from behind

Soon after the wedding, my friend's wife got a short hair cut that was not impressive. It was one of those bob cut haircuts where the hair was just above shoulder length. She then spent the next 12-24 months growing her hair, so it got back to a more feminine level. Most women need minimum shoulder length to maximize attractiveness.

This woman I've been describing doesn't give off a sloot vibe. With that said, it is at best 50-50 that the marriage survives. I'm guided by logic, facts, and statistics. Even it does survive, who knows how much quality there will be? I'd say that my friend made a defensible choice in a marriage. He's blue pill, maybe purple pill. She would have been an equally defensible in the 1990s and 2010s.

It is debatable whether I'm red pill or black pill.

Christie Brinkley has remained attractive into her 60s. A few years ago, she posed in a two piece bikini at 63. She could generate some erections at her age.

 

[Bigpapa]

Soon after the wedding, my friend's wife got a short hair cut that was not impressive. It was one of those bob cut haircuts where the hair was just above shoulder length. She then spent the next 12-24 months growing her hair, so it got back to a more feminine level. Most women need minimum shoulder length to maximize attractiveness.

This woman I've been describing doesn't give off a sloot vibe. With that said, it is at best 50-50 that the marriage survives. I'm guided by logic, facts, and statistics. Even it does survive, who knows how much quality there will be? I'd say that my friend made a defensible choice in a marriage. He's blue pill, maybe purple pill. She would have been an equally defensible in the 1990s and 2010s.

It is debatable whether I'm red pill or black pill.

Christie Brinkley has remained attractive into her 60s. A few years ago, she posed in a two piece bikini at 63. She could generate some erections at her age.

Depends on the face shape and other stuff like that .

I saw girls that look way better with a short hair (witg The length slightly lower than the ears ) than with longer one

haircuts really depend on a lot of factors , and for sure it is not a fit all thing

some guys look sexier with a buzz cut , while others with longer hair

 

[christie]

Soon after the wedding, my friend's wife got a short hair cut that was not impressive. It was one of those bob cut haircuts where the hair was just above shoulder length. She then spent the next 12-24 months growing her hair, so it got back to a more feminine level. Most women need minimum shoulder length to maximize attractiveness.

This woman I've been describing doesn't give off a sloot vibe. With that said, it is at best 50-50 that the marriage survives. I'm guided by logic, facts, and statistics. Even it does survive, who knows how much quality there will be? I'd say that my friend made a defensible choice in a marriage. He's blue pill, maybe purple pill. She would have been an equally defensible in the 1990s and 2010s.

It is debatable whether I'm red pill or black pill.

Christie Brinkley has remained attractive into her 60s. A few years ago, she posed in a two piece bikini at 63. She could generate some erections at her age.

Christie is my girl. I have admired her ever since that one book she put out. "Christie Brinkley's Outdoor Beauty and Fitness" book


I agree that the length of hair is an express sign of femininity.
My hair has healed from the damaging midlife crisis blond I did two and a half years ago and now getting more professional care(deep conditioning treatments) and I brush it several times a day, putting that palmers vit e oil on the ends and I put rosemary essential oil on my fingertips and give my scalp a thorough selfmassage once a month or sooner.
Its now past shoulderlength! and has stopped receding(giving up wheat products and now inflammatory dairy has helped immensely)

I think my whole body has gone into healing, coincidentally in the past year I've frequented sosuave too.
>>>>Emotionally and rationally, I needed some explanations from men and I got them here, which has relieved some emotional anguish. Not to sound too sucky, but its true.

If I had to take my shot at guessing, I'd say you are more red than black.

I get a calm and patient vibe from you SW15 that seems to project a neutral acceptance of things. I don't get the impression that you've given up on women/dating/etc. like I get from some blackpills who have let a little bit of hopelessness take over.
I sincerely hope for your continued contentment in your life.
Several posts you've written ping in my memory periodically to reassure me of some unique challenges I currently have.
(moved around alot as a kid before 10 years old changing schools, then changed elementary schools twice before religious high school then changed to public, secular high school then started and dropped out of uni and then completed a few college/technical schools then started and completed half the registered apprenticeships. All the while changing jobs on a regular basis, moving halfway across the country and then travelling journeyman-style across this province in construction) Your posts on being 'new-to-town' have helped me remember I'm doing ok for the lack of longterm stability or roots in one place yet.

I have been at this one employer almost 2 years which is the longest I've been in since a factory job between 99-02
I think I've got the right idea to work on improving my smv more and continuing to stay put in order to build a social circle.

Thanks for reading. I'm playing the hand I've been dealt to the best of my game knowledge so far.

I still have questions on calibrating and thanks for answering. Gives me radar points for where I am in my journey.

 

[SW15]

Christie is my girl. I have admired her ever since that one book she put out. "Christie Brinkley's Outdoor Beauty and Fitness" book

I agree that the length of hair is an express sign of femininity.
My hair has healed from the damaging midlife crisis blond I did two and a half years ago and now getting more professional care(deep conditioning treatments) and I brush it several times a day, putting that palmers vit e oil on the ends and I put rosemary essential oil on my fingertips and give my scalp a thorough selfmassage once a month or sooner.
Its now past shoulderlength! and has stopped receding(giving up wheat products and now inflammatory dairy has helped immensely)

I think my whole body has gone into healing, coincidentally in the past year I've frequented sosuave too.
>>>>Emotionally and rationally, I needed some explanations from men and I got them here, which has relieved some emotional anguish. Not to sound too sucky, but its true.

If I had to take my shot at guessing, I'd say you are more red than black.

I get a calm and patient vibe from you SW15 that seems to project a neutral acceptance of things. I don't get the impression that you've given up on women/dating/etc. like I get from some blackpills who have let a little bit of hopelessness take over.
I sincerely hope for your continued contentment in your life.
Several posts you've written ping in my memory periodically to reassure me of some unique challenges I currently have.
(moved around alot as a kid before 10 years old changing schools, then changed elementary schools twice before religious high school then changed to public, secular high school then started and dropped out of uni and then completed a few college/technical schools then started and completed half the registered apprenticeships. All the while changing jobs on a regular basis, moving halfway across the country and then travelling journeyman-style across this province in construction) Your posts on being 'new-to-town' have helped me remember I'm doing ok for the lack of longterm stability or roots in one place yet.

I have been at this one employer almost 2 years which is the longest I've been in since a factory job between 99-02
I think I've got the right idea to work on improving my smv more and continuing to stay put in order to build a social circle.

Childhood moves weaken social circles and have damaging personal and professional effects that can affect a person until at least their 40s. These effects might even be lifelong. The worst thing about childhood moves is that you have no say in those. If you move as an adult, you accept the consequences of your actions. I have both childhood and adulthood moves in my past, which is why I've never had a social circle that could provide me with prospects and had either had to cold approach or swipe to form relationships.

I'm probably more red pill than black pill. I aim for rationality and a calm, patient vibe. I have not given up on women or dating. I have had both good and bad experiences in dating and relationships.

 

[christie]

Childhood moves weaken social circles and have damaging personal and professional effects that can affect a person until at least their 40s. These effects might even be lifelong. The worst thing about childhood moves is that you have no say in those. If you move as an adult, you accept the consequences of your actions. I have both childhood and adulthood moves in my past, which is why I've never had a social circle that could provide me with prospects and had either had to cold approach or swipe to form relationships.

I'm probably more red pill than black pill. I aim for rationality and a calm, patient vibe. I have not given up on women or dating. I have had both good and bad experiences in dating and relationships.

Yes.
Then you now know that is the vibe a person on an internet forum/discussion board gets from you after various times in the year, various moods of discussion.
A known identity is very valuable for dating(selling yourself) and investing too.

Good point about having more control as an adult in moves. To my family it may not make sense for me to stay still in the city but the challenges of shiftwork and overtime and new employers and temporary work residences every 2-8 months was grating on me.

I think me staying put is having a supergrowth effect on me.

I can make almost 2.5x more$$$ in construction, flitting about, but the stress and unfamiliarity was getting to me SW15.
Its amazing to 'stay still', healthwise.

 

[bat soup]

Do you recall back in the late 00s when a woman who had 10 sexual partners was considered unfit for any serious relationship?

Now in 2020 most guys would be lucky to get a gf with such low amount given the average...

By 2030 any girl that didnt get railed on onlyfans would be considered a prude...yeah bro my girl only shows her ass on instagram everyday twice a day but never had an onlyfan account, she also told me that she didnt do unprotected an@l before second date, Im glad I managed to have her to settle for me.

Lol at guys here who say that you have to "game your wife" otherwise she loses interest...

It's not that women have changed. It's just that now they're more shameless. Plus, how would you ever know how many men a woman has been with? It's not like a car, where you can check the mileage.