Yes means Yes

[Stagger Lee]

The government is at it again, redefining sexual consent. This should be called "Yes means yes, maybe or no".

http://news.msn.com/us/california-debates-yes-means-yes-sex-assault-law

Legislation passed by California's state Senate in May and coming before the Assembly this month would require all schools that receive public funds for student financial assistance to set a so-called "affirmative consent standard" that could be used in investigating and adjudicating sexual assault allegations. That would be defined as "an affirmative, unambiguous and conscious decision" by each party to engage in sexual activity.

Silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep.

Like females are ever affirmative and unambiguous about anything least of all sex.

Several state legislatures, including Maryland, Texas and Connecticut, introduced bills in the past year to push colleges to do more after a White House task force reported that 1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault. The U.S. Education Department also took the unprecedented step of releasing the names of schools facing federal investigation for the way they handle sexual abuse allegations.

It's always the federal government enforcing these extreme- feminist, PC, gay etc schemes and agendas. The federal government takes the tax money and won't give it back and fines anyone who doesn't enforce their agendas. Sound a lot like blackmail.

As a male, especially heterosexual, white and traditional, you give up all your rights when you seek educational, sexual (heterosexual) or economic opportunities.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Well according to western media the biggest threat to your freedom is Putin so you should keep all of this in the backround.

Sarcarsm apart, hard to disagree with your message, the federal government in the states and the european commission (not the eu parliament keep in mind) are the biggest enemy of freedom and justice, any coward pc law comes from those two institutions.

We are at the point that white,straight,honest men are required to pay taxes and see those money used to enforce laws against their rights.
Feminists,muslims,gipsies are all benefitting from such laws in terms of economical contribution and special protection, a free gov funded bully card.

 

[Stagger Lee]

What they do is enforce these social agendas through kangaroo tribunals, in educational and employment institutions, that will always side against the male, heterosexual, white, Christian/conservative/traditional. That's the whole point of it all.

The government enforces Affirmative Action, political correct, feminism, gay etc agenda through educational and economical opportunities. It's enforced sub-criminal law or administrative law and enforced by proxy through civil and even private sector. That way the Constitution and Bill of Rights and the normal criminal law protections is bypassed altogether.

 

[VikingKing]

So now if they regret fcking you, you can get rape charges. Great, like we arn't already walking through a mine field.

 

[dasein]

This is just the latest plank in a 40 year platform to strip rights from male defendants where the overhyped crime of rape is concerned. Currently, and within the realm of common sense, intoxication does not impede consent unless it amounts to incapacity. These banana republic equivalent rape definitions and affirmative consent requirements throw that common sense out the window, making anyone who has sex with an intoxicated or even buzzed person a prospective rapist. The plaintiff's lawyers, behind the scenes instigators of this and top Democratic contributors, dance a jig when they see things like this. Of course, MSM isn't around to report the carnage and social costs that result. Even nonleft media is so cowed by feminism that it only reports on the most egregious cases like Duke and Hofstra. We are expected to believe that creatures that wake up and paint their faces every day, run on pure emotion more often than not, suddenly turn into world class logicians and philosophers when rape or sexual abuse is concerned, never ever fabricate claims about things done to them. One of these things is not like the other.

Feminism breeds on revolving, gender-solipsistic hysteria. In the 90s, hundreds of thousands of families and others were devastated by false memory syndrome and satanic abuse syndrome. Social workers and street level "public service" bureaucrats gleefully helped pour fuel on that fire of lies as they do the ongoing rape hysteria. At the time, there was no alternate voice to left MSM, so little was heard about it. But it represented one of the most egregious social crimes of the 20th century. What place in the social history books, though? Crickets chirp. Same with all the noxious social ills of feminism.

The rape culture lie narrative could flare up into this at any moment, and is for the most part an utter hoax just like false memory and satanic abuse were. Anyone who walks into the voting booth and pulls the voting lever is voting for more of the same hysteria and fear-mongering.

 

[Vulpine]

Nevermind carrying rubbers anymore.

I'm carrying a breathalyzer and video camera; and only ƒucking a woman in the azz or mouth.

 

[Huffman]

There seems to be a lot of date rape going on, so I can understand where this legislation comes from. But shouldn't we be happy to support "No means No" instead of having to wait for an explicit "Yes"?

 

[mrRuckus]

"1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault."

No they're not; stop lying.

"1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault."

No they're not; stop lying.

"1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault."

No they're not; stop lying.

"1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault."

No they're not; stop lying.

 

[dasein]

There seems to be a lot of date rape going on, so I can understand where this legislation comes from.

Don't believe it. All those stats are doctored from the same types of flawed method survey studies. The survey takers decide who has been abused or raped, not the ones being surveyed, who in many cases have turned out to be married to or lliving longterm with their "rapists" and "abusers."

"Have you ever had sex and regretted it later?" "Yes" ... Abuse

"Have you ever had sex drunk or very high from drugs?" "Yes" ... Rape

"Have you ever said no to sex and then later ended up having sex anyway?" "Yes" ... Rape.

It sounds preposterous in that people's very lives are involved, but these cultural solipsists do not care. All they care about is their deranged lie narratives and discriminatory advantage, that's it.

 

[Moonlounger]

There's a massively flawed study that's hit the mainstream media recently on sexual violence conducted by the CDC - much backlash on the numbers which are alarmist, but highly fabricated. Conveniently, nobody really questions the surveys methodology, and if you look at the details, you'll see it is incredibly biased to inflate the numbers.

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

Basic gist of the survey: 1 in 5 US women have been sexually assaulted at one time, and 1 in 4 US men have experienced rape, stalking, or violence by and intimate partner. By the way, you'll hardly ever hear the stats on men being reported, for obvious reasons.


Skip to page 106 of the report and you'll find the actual questions asked during the survey, to which a "yes" answer would result in being marked as a sexual victim:

1. Have you had sex with someone after they wore you down by repeatedly asking, or showing they were unhappy? If yes, you are a victim of sexual violence.

2. Has someone kissed you in a sexual way that you did not like? If yes, you are a victim of sexual violence.

3. Has someone left cards, gifts, or presents when you didn't want them to? If yes, sexual victim!

Etc, etc, etc...


This survey is not science, or even "junk science", it's pure propaganda which obfuscates the real number of people who have experienced sexual violence. They are doubly victims here as they were sexually assaulted and their story is being watered down and marginalized by the results of this survey. According to the survey, I have been a victim of sexual violence dozens of times! Good thing I found out by reading the survey questions, else I may have never known

I find journalists who write about these fake and alarmist numbers as if they were gospel truth to be completely idiotic. Unfortunately, the vast majority of sciencey sounding numbers spewed by the media nowadays is twisted garbage.

This survey is nothing more than a distraction away from the real important issues in America.

 

[Maeisgood]

So does this updated definition of rape mean that the movies "Superbad" and "Knocked Up" are about rape and sexual assault?

 

[VladPatton]

It should be a real fun madhouse when guys are too afraid to pound pvssy and stop caring. Then what? $hit's fvcked up, son.

 

[speed dawg]

So now if they regret fcking you, you can get rape charges. Great, like we arn't already walking through a mine field.

Yep, ask Jameis Winston.

No accountability for females at all. They want to be equal, but they also wanted to continue to be treated like children who don't know better. Same can be said for some minorities.

 

[Bokanovsky]

There seems to be a lot of date rape going on

Really? What's your source?

 

[Bokanovsky]

According to the CDC study criteria, anyone who has ever gotten drunk, had sex with a fatty and regretted it the following morning is a victim of rape.

 

[mrRuckus]

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176

The rate of rape and sexual assault was 1.2 times higher for nonstudents (7.6 per 1,000) than for students (6.1 per 1,000).

6.1/1000 = .0061 = 0.61%

That's quite a bit lower than the 1/5=20% bull**** they keep spewing. That's an absurd amount of lying.

There's no epidemic. Who cares? My default assumption of any accusation is that they're lying now. Defaulting to lying = presumption of innocence as intended by our justice system.

That's the consequence for lying about the statistics and lying about the rapes at all levels. There's more important things to worry about than sorting through all these lies. Report the crime within 24 hours or go away.

 

[YawataNoKami]

It's not easy being a man in this age it seems.While It's ridiculous to imagine the sex act needing stacks of legal documents and possibly even be witnessed by government agents to be declared "non-rape", would even THAT far flung scenario provide security for the male!?

Just ask yourselves how well prenups have held up in court for men. Ask yourselves how well the marriage contract protected men from a cheating wife. Ask yourselves how well the concept of "innocent until proven guilty is being honored here.

See, even in the ridiculous scenario described here guys, STILL, no man would be safe since the laws are applied such that the man is always guilty and the woman is always innocent. You can have all the documents you want, all the video footage you want, all the official government witnesses you can imagine and STILL, all she has to do is claim she was "pressured" in some way and all of these imaginary legal protections would go out the window and the man would still be labeled a rapist.

 

[Mike32ct]

According to the CDC study criteria, anyone who has ever gotten drunk, had sex with a fatty and regretted it the following morning is a victim of rape.

^^This.

"I regretted it afterwards." = I realized in the morning that the person I F-ed wasn't as hot as they seemed the night before.