I think this forum is awesome because I can share any girl problem without embarrassment and get a variety of insightful advice from unbiased (although occasionally one-sided) third parties. Merry Christmas everyone!
Alright here's the deal. I first met Alice at the gym. My first glimpse of this goddess was her ass rising out of the pool as she pushed herself up onto the ledge. Believe me, this ass is PHENOMENAL. This girl has the most naturally toned body and classic features, I wish I had a picture for ya'll. ANYWAY...
She was with her tall blonde friend Dana, who also looked pretty appealing in her bikini. I was standing by the towels getting ready to go as they were coming out of the steam room. Somehow Dana slipped and totally biffed it, so when they walked over to get their stuff, I made some comment, got to rappin, and suggested they give me their phone number. I was more attracted to Alice but Dana overeagerly volunteered me her number and I could see right then who was the classier in-demand one. But Dana was lithe and totally do-able so I figured, what the hell.
However when we went on our coffee date her annoying personality and average face weren't enough to compensate for her long legs and decent rack so I didn't make a move and never called her again. For the next year I ran into Alice rarely and randomly, but we always had good energy when we chatted, and at school when she'd walk by all the guys would stare, not in the typical I-want-to-****-you way...more like how a peasant stares at a queen.
About now it's becoming obvious that I put this ***** on a pedestal. Not just because of how hot she is...she's also unbelievably intelligent, interesting, and well-spoken, an incredible singer/songwriter, speaks multiple languages, travels throughout Europe, wears heels in everyday life, and carries herself with a dignified air.
Okay okay I'll get to the point. Recently we started actually kicking it. One of the first times, we sat on her couch and talked for 7 hours straight till 3 in the morning. Sex was definitely a topic, but I was satisfied just conversing with her. P.S. This girl is 19 but acts like she's 26. She has a daddy complex and likes older guys, the last dude she dated was a 33-year-old ex-model.
A few weeks ago we were hanging out on her couch again and she was talking about how horny she was. She actually said, "I haven't been this horny in...well, ever!" and later, "I want to copulate!" At one point she shifted so my foot was right on her crotch.
But I'm a ***** and it's hard for me to believe this girl wants me even when she acts like that. She plays games for sure. I bit the back of her neck when she was on the phone and she responded well, but when I pulled her down to start cuddling with her she went limp like a dead fish (we were watching TV).
She keeps inviting me to hang out though, and last night I spent the night in her bed. We always watch movies and what not and she leans against me, sometimes stroking me with a single toe or finger. If I had the guts to just kiss her I have a feeling it could go well, but she also makes comments about how hard it is to find guys that won't make a move on her. On the other hand she'll talk about how attractive she thinks I am, blah blah blah.
NOW here's my question. I spooned with her a bit last night and when I woke up I lay there for a bit, then decided to lean over and start kissing her neck. Problem is, as soon as I landed one she jumped and was like, "You startled me!" I backed off but cuddled with her for a bit, then took off.
I can't get the balls up to just grab her and go for it, I get too many mixed signals from her! Should I talk to her or what? I really value our friendship but she's too hot for me to be satisfied with just that anymore. Opinions?
Additional factors: she likes the fact that I'm "safe" because she's been both molested and raped, but on the other hand she's said, "I like it when a guy just grabs you, pushes you up against the wall, and kisses you whether you like it or not." She'll initiate physical contact but it seems like when I do she pulls back a bit. I'm confused.
Alright here's the deal. I first met Alice at the gym. My first glimpse of this goddess was her ass rising out of the pool as she pushed herself up onto the ledge. Believe me, this ass is PHENOMENAL. This girl has the most naturally toned body and classic features, I wish I had a picture for ya'll. ANYWAY...
She was with her tall blonde friend Dana, who also looked pretty appealing in her bikini. I was standing by the towels getting ready to go as they were coming out of the steam room. Somehow Dana slipped and totally biffed it, so when they walked over to get their stuff, I made some comment, got to rappin, and suggested they give me their phone number. I was more attracted to Alice but Dana overeagerly volunteered me her number and I could see right then who was the classier in-demand one. But Dana was lithe and totally do-able so I figured, what the hell.
However when we went on our coffee date her annoying personality and average face weren't enough to compensate for her long legs and decent rack so I didn't make a move and never called her again. For the next year I ran into Alice rarely and randomly, but we always had good energy when we chatted, and at school when she'd walk by all the guys would stare, not in the typical I-want-to-****-you way...more like how a peasant stares at a queen.
About now it's becoming obvious that I put this ***** on a pedestal. Not just because of how hot she is...she's also unbelievably intelligent, interesting, and well-spoken, an incredible singer/songwriter, speaks multiple languages, travels throughout Europe, wears heels in everyday life, and carries herself with a dignified air.
Okay okay I'll get to the point. Recently we started actually kicking it. One of the first times, we sat on her couch and talked for 7 hours straight till 3 in the morning. Sex was definitely a topic, but I was satisfied just conversing with her. P.S. This girl is 19 but acts like she's 26. She has a daddy complex and likes older guys, the last dude she dated was a 33-year-old ex-model.
A few weeks ago we were hanging out on her couch again and she was talking about how horny she was. She actually said, "I haven't been this horny in...well, ever!" and later, "I want to copulate!" At one point she shifted so my foot was right on her crotch.
But I'm a ***** and it's hard for me to believe this girl wants me even when she acts like that. She plays games for sure. I bit the back of her neck when she was on the phone and she responded well, but when I pulled her down to start cuddling with her she went limp like a dead fish (we were watching TV).
She keeps inviting me to hang out though, and last night I spent the night in her bed. We always watch movies and what not and she leans against me, sometimes stroking me with a single toe or finger. If I had the guts to just kiss her I have a feeling it could go well, but she also makes comments about how hard it is to find guys that won't make a move on her. On the other hand she'll talk about how attractive she thinks I am, blah blah blah.
NOW here's my question. I spooned with her a bit last night and when I woke up I lay there for a bit, then decided to lean over and start kissing her neck. Problem is, as soon as I landed one she jumped and was like, "You startled me!" I backed off but cuddled with her for a bit, then took off.
I can't get the balls up to just grab her and go for it, I get too many mixed signals from her! Should I talk to her or what? I really value our friendship but she's too hot for me to be satisfied with just that anymore. Opinions?
Additional factors: she likes the fact that I'm "safe" because she's been both molested and raped, but on the other hand she's said, "I like it when a guy just grabs you, pushes you up against the wall, and kisses you whether you like it or not." She'll initiate physical contact but it seems like when I do she pulls back a bit. I'm confused.