Years on this forum and I'm still a weak man

SamTheHobit

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Another word for weak man would be beta I suppose.

After all the things I've learnt on this forum I still do beta stuff that would make my younger self cringe.

I don't know if it's because I don't care what I come off as to women or myself or because I'm emotonaly crippled at this point in my life.

I suppose I'm only human and one day something will go right for me because God knows I've had enough.

Sorry I just feel like sharing my thoughts
 

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A man who can admit weakness is a strong man in my eyes. Don't worry about it. We all have beta inside of us.

If it will make you feel better I will tell you how I lost a girl at NYE. I had her, I mean I really had her. She was ready to be fvcked. Than I started running my dumb mouth, philosophizing about God knows what. And I know how to let her talk and be a mistery, but I was drunk and I just botched it. I could see the moment when she lost interest in her eyes. A moment of weakness she didn't forgive. Fvck it. Who gives a fvck.

So, there you go
 

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My advice.
Take this year off and stay way from going after women.
FOCUS on your career and get into a higher position.
Trust me , if you are feeling weak ..it had nothing to do with your ability to get women. You are DEEPLY not happy with your self in general.
 

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Go to the gym, lose yourself there bro, it will help you, make friends, have fun do positive things, all things that make you happy
 

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Dude, your 20 years old, according to your age info. Dont beat yourself up too much as your still very young and have so much time ahead of you to improve. Keep on improving. Time is on your side.
 

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Only person that can help you is yourself.

Watch Warriors injections of inspiration on youtube
 

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SamTheHobit said:
Another word for weak man would be beta I suppose.

After all the things I've learnt on this forum I still do beta stuff that would make my younger self cringe.

I don't know if it's because I don't care what I come off as to women or myself or because I'm emotonaly crippled at this point in my life.

I suppose I'm only human and one day something will go right for me because God knows I've had enough.

Sorry I just feel like sharing my thoughts
It's because of what I call the "personal Hell" theory.

The "Personal Hell" theory states that a person would rather stick to doing things that keep their life situation unhappy because it's comfortable to them, than to do new stuff that might make them happy but is new, different, and therefore not as comfortable. It's the same reason women stay in abusive relationships - they want to get out (personal Hell) but stick around because there's a chance they may not find anybody and end up alone, which to them is worse than being beaten but at least having somebody.

Your problem, my friend, is that despite the new stuff you learn on these boards to get better with women, you are habitually used to doing the WRONG things, which has become comfortable to you. So, at the point where you start to try new stuff, your brains goes "WHOA! Wait a minute!! What's this NEW thing you're trying?? Oh no no no, we're not used to doing that, that feels uncomfortable - let's go back to doing things the old way, m'kay? It's got to work one of these days!"

I used to be just like you (which is why I ended up writing a whole eBook about all the wrong things I was doing so I'd stop doing them). When you're used to doing the wrong things, the last thing you want to do is risk doing new things that may also end up being just MORE wrong things to do. A perfect example would be me and the phone: I used to listen to Doc Love's stuff all the time, and he would talk about waiting 5 to 9 days to call a girl before asking her out. And I thought he was INSANE!! "But, she'll forget I even exist, or stop liking me, or have some other guy come in and take her away from me..." Now, my own personal experience of contacting girls immediately after a date wasn't working (personal Hell), but I had gotten used to doing it, and this new info of waiting x-amount of days just felt wrong to me...

Fast-forward to today, though: I advise guys all the time to wait at least 4 days between dates to hit a chick up. Why? Once I finally decided to TRY it, I got better results and more 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. dates. It's now to the point where I've hooked up with girls that I don't call for 3 weeks to 3 months, and as soon as I do they're ready to go back out and/or hook up again. But, I wouldn't be able to do that had I not been willing to finally step out of my personal hell and say "eh, let's try it - I'm already NOT getting women, what have I got to lose?"

Note: as you get older and start to become more secure in your life and the person you are - as well as having a job, your own place, etc. - it will also get much easier to keep the interest of women. So, definitely work on these things and building up your self-esteem - you'll find that once you don't need women to make you happy, they'll be falling all over themselves to volunteer to do it ;)
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
It's because of what I call the "personal Hell" theory.

The "Personal Hell" theory states that a person would rather stick to doing things that keep their life situation unhappy because it's comfortable to them, than to do new stuff that might make them happy but is new, different, and therefore not as comfortable. It's the same reason women stay in abusive relationships - they want to get out (personal Hell) but stick around because there's a chance they may not find anybody and end up alone, which to them is worse than being beaten but at least having somebody.

Your problem, my friend, is that despite the new stuff you learn on these boards to get better with women, you are habitually used to doing the WRONG things, which has become comfortable to you. So, at the point where you start to try new stuff, your brains goes "WHOA! Wait a minute!! What's this NEW thing you're trying?? Oh no no no, we're not used to doing that, that feels uncomfortable - let's go back to doing things the old way, m'kay? It's got to work one of these days!"

I used to be just like you (which is why I ended up writing a whole eBook about all the wrong things I was doing so I'd stop doing them). When you're used to doing the wrong things, the last thing you want to do is risk doing new things that may also end up being just MORE wrong things to do. A perfect example would be me and the phone: I used to listen to Doc Love's stuff all the time, and he would talk about waiting 5 to 9 days to call a girl before asking her out. And I thought he was INSANE!! "But, she'll forget I even exist, or stop liking me, or have some other guy come in and take her away from me..." Now, my own personal experience of contacting girls immediately after a date wasn't working (personal Hell), but I had gotten used to doing it, and this new info of waiting x-amount of days just felt wrong to me...

Fast-forward to today, though: I advise guys all the time to wait at least 4 days between dates to hit a chick up. Why? Once I finally decided to TRY it, I got better results and more 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. dates. It's now to the point where I've hooked up with girls that I don't call for 3 weeks to 3 months, and as soon as I do they're ready to go back out and/or hook up again. But, I wouldn't be able to do that had I not been willing to finally step out of my personal hell and say "eh, let's try it - I'm already NOT getting women, what have I got to lose?"

Note: as you get older and start to become more secure in your life and the person you are - as well as having a job, your own place, etc. - it will also get much easier to keep the interest of women. So, definitely work on these things and building up your self-esteem - you'll find that once you don't need women to make you happy, they'll be falling all over themselves to volunteer to do it ;)
Thanks for taking the time to type up what's going on. And I think you're totally right I get treated like **** by certain women and still text them and sH1t.

I think as someone else pointed out I need to take this year off from women and just focus on myself and my career.
 

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Good post by Harry Wilmington.

OP.. the only weak men in this world are ignorant men. These are the delusional blue pill white knights who are still totally clueless about human psychology, world sociology, history, money, politics, and human motivations.

If you've been educated.. that alone gives you a large advantage in life. Even when you engage in any clingy, desperate or beta behavior.. you will at least be doing it with full AWARENESS. When that behavior fails you.. you will know why.

They say knowledge is power for a reason. It allows you to be privy to things most are not.. thus allowing you to use your time more wisely. You avoid bad situations easier. You make better decisions. You recognize good opportunities and know how to take advantage of them.

To be young and knowledgeable is very powerful. If in your 20's you know more than the average 40 or 50 year old moronic beta white knight.. then imagine where you will be when YOU reach that age.

Just be patient Sam. Relax and take it all in. The knowledge you have gained will pay off at times you least suspect. This has been my experience and I'm still pretty young myself.
 
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