Ya, I'm one of the short guys out there.

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I always think that the girl is too tall for me, not the other way around ie that I'm too short for the girl.
 

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I agree that height shouldn't be made into as big a deterrent as many in this discussion claim it is, but citing 6 influential celebrities-actors at that- is illrelevant and fails in lending support to your argument.

It's their job (those guys listed) to give off a certain image-one further manipulated by the media. James dean was a pretty insecure shy person as you would learn if you ever studied up on him. Robert Deniro is a self-confessed shy guy as well.

Lastly, these guys are famous so they'll get a$$ regardless of their height-as perfectly exemplified by mini me''s marriage to a 6 ft model.
 

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Look; you can either keep feeling bad for yourself or you can accept it and move on. Crying about it via the internet isn't going to solve your problems (and your main problem isn't your height; it's your insecurity about your height. THAT'S what is driving girls away).
 

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Originally posted by Prophett
I agree that height shouldn't be made into as big a deterrent as many in this discussion claim it is, but citing 6 influential celebrities-actors at that- is illrelevant and fails in lending support to your argument.

It's their job (those guys listed) to give off a certain image-one further manipulated by the media. James dean was a pretty insecure shy person as you would learn if you ever studied up on him. Robert Deniro is a self-confessed shy guy as well.

Lastly, these guys are famous so they'll get a$$ regardless of their height-as perfectly exemplified by mini me''s marriage to a 6 ft model.
That's irrelevant, and you missed the point entirely. The point was, they didn't get where they are now by worrying about their height... height is hardly a disadvantage.
 

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^^Indeed, and you are forgetting about all the non-celebrity influential people.

Gandhi, T.E. Lawerence, Napoleon Bonaparte, Thomas Jefferson, Mozart, Kruschev, and so forth, were not actors but were very influential people, even to this day. They are admired by millions, not for height but for what they contributed to this world.

Women who refuse to go out with a guy just cause he is short are people who have not just real image problems but are also people who are insecure with themselves and feel they have to conform to society's "standard" in the dating pool.
 

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Look at George Bush. He's 6' and still a wuss. Married to an ugly woman, also.
 

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I see what you're saying-all those men didn't focus on their perceived stature handicap and shot to immense heights( no pun intended)of success.

Interestingly enough, before James Dean became famous many persons said he couldn't be an actor because he was too short...so much for that contention!
 
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Originally posted by sux2bu
Look at George Bush. He's 6' and still a wuss. Married to an ugly woman, also.
LOL.

Now for those that are nowhere near 6' I have two words: Neil Strauss

Can we leave this alone now?
 

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Originally posted by sux2bu
Look at George Bush. He's 6' and still a wuss. Married to an ugly woman, also.
omg that's a woman?
 

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STFU PANSIES

im 5 6


ive slept with 26 women..

had countless womn in love withme


stop making excuses!
 

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Let's think about this with science.

A guy who's relatively short (5'4") is still over 84 percent of the height of a tall man (6'4"). Fifteen percent difference. We're not talking night and day, here.

Also, evolutionary biology/psychology is one of my interests (and was my major in college) and it is a proven scientific fact (im too lazy to cite this, but there was a link to this on a college website for anyone that wants to search the forums that doesn't believe me), that for most women, the most attractive body type for a man is:

about average height (5'8" to 6'0")
broad shoulders
muscular chest and muscular arms, but not as muscular as a bodybuilder's physique.

Think Eminem, and Tupac. Women love those guys and their bodies.

Average heights are average for a reason, and that's because their naturally selected for. If only 6'+ guys were considered attractive, and were the only ones getting laid, then the average dude's height would be over 6'

FWIW I'm 5'10", and in my personal experience, most guys seem taller than me. I live in Colorado, and I dont know if it's something in the water but most guys out here seem to be 6'-6'2"

BUT: I don't really feel short. When I'm around white people they're tend to think I'm a little short, but when I'm around hispanics or native americans (my races), they think I'm tall. It's never bothered me or my game.

I've actually talked to quite a few women about this, and most women said as far as height is concerned, all that really matters is that the man is taller than them, but as David DeAngelo says, attraction is not a choice, and it's not an unbreakable rule by any means
 
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like above poster said, it's not a prequisite to getting women but from evolutianary standpoint it's an advantage. How great an advantage? That's better question.
 

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WORKEROUTER said:
This goes out to all of those short guys in the world. I myself am 5'7, and I must say, it is not a confidence booster when almost every other girl is as tall as you.

HOWEVER, you need to still establish a dominant position. One way to do this is WORKING out. I'm not saying you need to look freakish, but have a good solid physique. For me, at 5'7, I'm aiming around 170, and cut. I'm about a year away.

Also, join a contact sport. For instance, I practice BJJ. In a year or two I want to start cross-training in muay thai. By the time I'm 21, I want to be skilled in both.

These are going to help improve your mental game and your confidence is going to begin showing itself.
Height is an issue but not a major one.You're not gonna not get girls because you are short absolutely not but women do prefer tall or taller guys.Just because they have a preference doesn't mean short guys won't get women.In the larger scheme of things short and tall men have an equal chance of getting women.
 

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People who post I'm short boo hoo posts have small weiners measuring about an average of 3 inches, those who are short and don't post about it have bigger penises

Yes very good point.The short guys who talk about their height probably have other things that are small too but small guys that have that and other things going for them don't complain.
 

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There are many women who will disqualify a guy for being short, but there are also girls who will disqualify a guy for being too tall.

I've heard plenty of women say this, not just freakishly tall but I have had some of my women friends tell me they were looking for someone under 6ft. I'm 5'8" btw.

One women (also 5'8", hmmm) told me once
"I like having sex with men who are around my height because it's easier to get into alot of the different positions"

Anyways we can sit here and complain about it all day or we can work on the parts of our game we actually have control over.

Yes being too tall is a problem too.After a certain height things just look weird.I am 6 3 and definitely prefer girls that are at least 5 7 or so.It just doesn't look normal for a super tall guy to be with a super short girl.I would probably go down as much as 5 3 but there's no way I could deal with a female shorter than 5 3.After 6 3 6 4 guys just get outta orbit they all look like b ball players.Imagine a 6 5 6 6 guy with a 5 3 5 4 woman it just brings about stares.
 

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I'm 5'7 and in my high school yearbook I was voted "The cutest guy". I had my fair share of female fans.

MY sister's boyfriend on the other hand is 5'5 and he totally scored. My sister has finally found someone she is happy with and someone I can trust. (I beleive most men are not worthy of my sister) Height is not an issue here folks.
 

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I am 5'6 and dated a chik who is around 6ft....we were going out longer than all the other gals who didn't make the cut. most girls Ive been with are way taller than me.

My friend is 5'5. He slept with over 70 gals before he turned 18. He is an ugly mofo but scores the hottest girl without having to try at all. His success with women is spread out to other parts in his life. He don't gie a f*ck about his height. When someone threatens him over his size he can quickly cut them down without using violence. He has achieved so much in so little time. He accepted the fact that he is a short a*ss and he moved on.....and boy did he move on well.

I am not as good as he is but he is living proof that nothing else matters and u accept anything u were born with and the rest you need to make it happen
 
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