To be fair, not man people can afford the sort of money you need for a boot-camp. And even if you could, I probably wouldn't recommend it.intrextrovert said:
Has anyone from this website been on a boot-camp? Would be interesting to hear.
WTF, THIS is college?
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Has anyone from this website been on a boot-camp? Would be interesting to hear.
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I do not think a bootcamp is too expensive, and if it is, then there are other issues beyond "women" that need to be addressed. For example, then I'd just focus on school and career until I'm at the place where I can afford atrv26 said:
$ 2000 bootcamp - when I'm at that point, I'd probably have an easier time attracting women into my life anyway. If you are dirt poor or too poor to afford a bootcamp, then I don't think you are going to get hot babes into your life when they see that sort of set-up.
They have to make it affordable or they would be losing money as they'll be turning away lots of people. There are other less reputable bootcamps out there that will charge less money.
The problem is, if Maxtro missed out on his yonger years to learn how to click with the ladies, then he has some serious catching up to do, and it makes sence to spend money if you are in a professional context that will help you catch up with the time you've lost.
Here are the reasons why a bootcamp makes sence with Maxtro:
a) he wont have to worry about guys who are suppose to help him, compete for the women, after all he's paying them to teach him.
b) he's been posting the same sad story threads from day one and this board hasn't been able to achieve the break-through in his life that he's looking for. He needs a major overhaul / intervention. I know first hand that a board cant help you out with "word-advice" if the issues too serious. Sometimes you have to look at other people, model their behaviour, catch their spirit and confidence, etc....
c) If you read Social Dyanmics site, and go over the information there, then it sounds like something just for Maxtro.
So, I think I'm being fair with this advice because I wouldn't give advice on something I would not try myself. I would certainly use a bootcamp myself if I felt that I was as discontent with my life as Maxtro was with the ladies. However, I have a girlfriend, and am trying to build a lifestyle that will make a good framework for attractive women to want to be apart of that life, so I'm good. It doesn't seem this way for Maxtro, and that's why I recommended a bootcamp overhaul.
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That's a pretty good idea. I like the insta-date stuff.DonutMan said:
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As for the bootcamp suggestion.
I did an RSD bootcamp several years ago. That was before they had their inner game breakthrough. In the end it was nothing more than a waste of my money.
While I would love to take a bootcamp now I'd rather eat and pay rent. Every month I am saving up some money and I may consider a bootcamp if I make no improvements by the time I finish up the fall semester. In other words I'm not going to even consider a bootcamp until December.
I doubt that is going to happen though. Each year that goes by I'm making a small amount of progress. I'm taking new risks.
Luke just because you have a girlfriend, do not consider yourself above me. I'm happy you found somebody that likes you. But I do not believe your lifestyle warrants you a reason to say that mine needs an overhaul.
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They have a money-back guarantee.Maxtro said:
Snow_Plowman if you do a search history, also did the RSD bootcamp. You can see most of his threads that he's good at getting hot girls and people look up to him on here.
I don't think I am considering myself above you. You are the one that was rude to me when I was offering a suggestion. Just because I said I don't "need" this program myself because I'm not discontent with my own life doesn't mean that I think that I'm better than you.Maxtro said:
Second of all, I'm not posting a bunch of threads on here about how unhappy my life is like you are. The point is you are discontent. You feel all you have to the gutter all the time to get sex. My issues are different from yours where it seems from my vantage point there is some internal "thriller" that is going on when all my internal dynamics come into play. So, I wouldn't even think it's fair to compare ourselves.
If I'm ever express discontentment it's usually on a razar sharp focused issue that's usually resolved quickly and efficiently. Currently I don't have any issues of discontentment with the ladies.
If I posted lots of threads about any particular issue that's bothering me, then I too would think that I need to take drastic action to deal with that issue, however, things just seem to resolve themselves with me to the point where I'm just content.
Your condescending tone when I give advice, or when you are making statements about my lifestyle appears to seem that you think you are better than me rather than the other way around.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
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Hey Maxtro,
I have a good idea of what you're going through right now. I recently moved to a new area to attend grad school and even though I have a few friends and relatives out here, my social circles are still thin.
I've found myself wanting to attend school dances, functions, go to clubs, etc but it's hard to without hang out buddies. The few friends and relatives I have out here are all in relationships and past the going out phase. So yeah, I'm also trying to find a few dudes that are into going out and having fun since I find it hard to attend clubs and dances alone. I'd just feel out of place and uncomfortable going to those places alone.
Something that may help you is to start getting out of the house any chance you get. I've been into golf for a few years and hit the gym 3-4 times a week. Also, if you're not doing so already, start going on your campus for the hell of it and hang out if you don't have anything else to do. Do stuff to be seen and if you happen to bump into classmates or others you may know initiate the convo. I've noticed at this university that a lot of people simply ignore you if they don't know you. So start saying hi to them and they'll get familiar. Also start studying on campus in the library or labs. That way you're seen and people will notice.
You live in Cali? I've only been there once but I tell you there's always something going on in California. Whether it's a local community picnic, sports event there's always reasons to go out. A lot of daytime stuff is great to go at alone, whereas nightclubs and bars can be uncomfortable territory if you don't have wings to hang out with.
If you know a few dudes that you might think are cool, start shooting sh*t with them. Ask them what's up with the weekend and don't be afraid to say "I don't have much going on this weekend, can I roll?" or something along those lines.
Also, try not to focus too much on women. I know it's hard when there's a lot of young, tight clothes wearing h0es out there but don't make them a priority. Women have a keen sense on when they become paramount to a man before even fvckin, date, etc and this will harm your chances on escalating.
You should try adopting a "don't give a fvck" attitude when it comes to women and most things that don't include your studies and well being, if that makes sense.
Some of this might be repeated (I haven't read through the entire thread yet but plan to) but I hope it can help in some way.
I have a good idea of what you're going through right now. I recently moved to a new area to attend grad school and even though I have a few friends and relatives out here, my social circles are still thin.
I've found myself wanting to attend school dances, functions, go to clubs, etc but it's hard to without hang out buddies. The few friends and relatives I have out here are all in relationships and past the going out phase. So yeah, I'm also trying to find a few dudes that are into going out and having fun since I find it hard to attend clubs and dances alone. I'd just feel out of place and uncomfortable going to those places alone.
Something that may help you is to start getting out of the house any chance you get. I've been into golf for a few years and hit the gym 3-4 times a week. Also, if you're not doing so already, start going on your campus for the hell of it and hang out if you don't have anything else to do. Do stuff to be seen and if you happen to bump into classmates or others you may know initiate the convo. I've noticed at this university that a lot of people simply ignore you if they don't know you. So start saying hi to them and they'll get familiar. Also start studying on campus in the library or labs. That way you're seen and people will notice.
You live in Cali? I've only been there once but I tell you there's always something going on in California. Whether it's a local community picnic, sports event there's always reasons to go out. A lot of daytime stuff is great to go at alone, whereas nightclubs and bars can be uncomfortable territory if you don't have wings to hang out with.
If you know a few dudes that you might think are cool, start shooting sh*t with them. Ask them what's up with the weekend and don't be afraid to say "I don't have much going on this weekend, can I roll?" or something along those lines.
Also, try not to focus too much on women. I know it's hard when there's a lot of young, tight clothes wearing h0es out there but don't make them a priority. Women have a keen sense on when they become paramount to a man before even fvckin, date, etc and this will harm your chances on escalating.
You should try adopting a "don't give a fvck" attitude when it comes to women and most things that don't include your studies and well being, if that makes sense.
Some of this might be repeated (I haven't read through the entire thread yet but plan to) but I hope it can help in some way.
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Hey maxtro,
Where in California? I can probably tell you whats going on and where it is if you are in Norcal. I think that there isn't anything wrong with you except that you haven't opened yourself up to new experiences. That's it... you look normal, seem smart and aren't a complete wackjob. So, do something you want to do. Surfing sounds fun, what better way to learn how to surf than for a hot surfer girl to teach you? The best way to meet new people is by doing things you want, not by attending a "boot-camp". Forget counselors and other external crap that acts as a band-aid.
Stand up, walk outside of your house and do something--anything!!! and talk to people while doing it.
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Bootcamps are not worth it. I have gone too 5 of them and all they do is steal your money. They didn't help me Luke Skywalker.
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I disagree with the idea of going to a boot camp too, unless maxtro is very rich. But that doesn't change that that attitude is probably a huge part of what his problem is.trv26 said:
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Well, what did help you then?Damascus said:
Which Bootcamps have you gone too? If you feel that they steal your money, then why did you go 4 more times? Naturally, if you felt ripped off, you'd go to one of them and ask for your money back if it didn't work or sue them and make a stink. Real Social Dynamics has a money-back guarantee on theirs on their site. If you are pissed at the results, just ask for your money back. However, you did go 4 MORE times to something you are claiming does not work.
I've read Snow_Plowman's posts, and other people that he knows who have gone to bootcamps and he said something like 9/10 people saw results from them. Maybe it is one of them things that work for some people, but there is always some people that it just won't work for. With Maxtro's attitude, you are right, the bootcamp probably wont work.
Well, I don't care about Maxtro and wherever he is going. I made this bootcamp suggestion because it seems like something that he may not have tried. He should have told me he tried the bootcamp rather than make that condescending remark.
However, I will defend the bootcamp concept on this thread and would encourage Snow_Plowman, if he's reading this thread to offer his perspective and experience about his bootcamp experience and hand the gauntlet of this element of the discussion over to him.
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I was gonna pm you with some questions about you're subject, but it won't let me. Can you perhaps pm me?
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I haven't posted a bunch of threads.Luke Skywalker said:
The last thread that I posted that was somewhat similar to that one was in February after I attended a free seminar.
In the past 6 months I've made 20 threads. Several of them were about the girl I was spending time with while others were about girls in general. Some threads I post to get thrown off-track where my issues come up but I did not intend to talk about those issues when I made the thread.
My intention for this thread is not to complain but to find out what I can do to make sure college is an enjoyable experience. So far I have gotten some killer advice. Some I can put into effect now and others I will have to wait till the next semester.
The reason I snapped at you, because I had found it funny that you were giving me advice and I felt that what you had posted was completely irrelevant to the thread.
I have already posted my opinion on bootcamps. There is no need of further bootcamp discussion in this thread.
That is an interesting idea, do stuff to be seen. I do need to do more activities on campus. Besides class the only thing I do on campus is Salsa Club. Maybe I should attend more meetings of different clubs just to get my face out there. Next year I’m planning on joining an intramural sports team. I’m considering; flag-football, soft-ball, volleyball and under 6-foot basketball. I should also probably attend my major’s club mettings.GuanYu said:
I got no idea how a guy friend can get me laid.camdry90 said:
Either way I still need to make some.
Who are you talking to?GuyInNeed0902 said:
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I was talking to you maxtro.
How so? I never needed guys to help me get laid. I usually meet the girls, game and fvck them all on my own. No assistance needed.camdry90 said:
Maxtro,
you could also try moving in a college living complex and moving in with other students. Since it seems the dudes you're living with are working dudes, it may benefit you to be around students since you see them a lot. That'll definitely give you some leverage when it comes to making some friends and attending parties and sh*t.
Most colleges have sign ups and applications for off campus housing you can fill out and they'll match you with roommates if you can't find any on your own.
If you already live in an apartment complex with a lot of college ppl then try to see if you'd like to befriend any of them. You def have to take initiative tho friends won't magically appear.
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Which school you go to? Long Beach State?
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
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i wasnt going to respond..but there has been a lot of disagreeing. i personally agree with having a good guy friend or two can help you get laid. i know when me and my best buddy roll into a house with 4-5 girls and their guy friends we steal the thunder in a second. we build energy off of each other
You need male friends to meet girls. Guys who meet a lot of hot girls do so because they go out everynight with the boys and have fun...Girls pick up on this and want to join
You can't walk around by yourself without and guy friends and meet girls. It's damn hard...being around other guys will give you confidence to approach girls when at a bar or club...
Just party with the boys at bars/clubs...when you see a girl you like at the bar approach her..if she blows you off..go back partying with the boys and brush it off..who gives a ****..you will still be having fun
You have to concentrate on having "fun" the girls will follow once you start having a good time...you cant wander around depressed and think you will just stumble into this chick who will make you happy
Go have fun...start by finding some guys you can go and party with....bros before ho's
You can't walk around by yourself without and guy friends and meet girls. It's damn hard...being around other guys will give you confidence to approach girls when at a bar or club...
Just party with the boys at bars/clubs...when you see a girl you like at the bar approach her..if she blows you off..go back partying with the boys and brush it off..who gives a ****..you will still be having fun
You have to concentrate on having "fun" the girls will follow once you start having a good time...you cant wander around depressed and think you will just stumble into this chick who will make you happy
Go have fun...start by finding some guys you can go and party with....bros before ho's
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I actually had a guy friend like that. I always got way too drunk at his parties. I didn't know what my limits were back then and I blew a couple of chances to hook up with girls.camdry90 said:
In the end I was too much of a weirdo and he lost all respect in me and ended up betraying me. I also did a couple of stupid things to him as well.
He's partially the reason why I don't really trust other men.
Either way, I'm a different person than I was a few years ago. A guy who's got connections is a good person to have in my life.
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This is a bit of a bold move to do for you I guess, but what if YOU yourself helped or actually threw a party or a gathering?
You said that there was a girl that organized the meeting for your Salsa class? So see if maybe you could organize another one. IMO the best advice i ever heard was that sometimes you have to be the person to start socializing so people will socialize with you. For example, do that Salsa thing and invite people out to a bar for some drinks afterward..
You said that there was a girl that organized the meeting for your Salsa class? So see if maybe you could organize another one. IMO the best advice i ever heard was that sometimes you have to be the person to start socializing so people will socialize with you. For example, do that Salsa thing and invite people out to a bar for some drinks afterward..