wtf is this girl doing to me?

[HappyHarryHardon]

so we were friends for a LITTLE while since i recently tried to kiss her. we only known each other a few months and met up like three/four times for friendly dates. i was seeing someone at the time and she knew that. she kept giving me hints saying stuff like "well u keep telling me u have a gf." when i told her i thought she was sexy etc.. but now im single and the last time we hung out i tried kissing her when she dropped me off and she gave me the cheek and smiled saying "no ur not getting that. "

so i went no contact until she called asking where i been and why im hiding from her blah blah... since then shes been calling me often and keep telling me to go online to chat... but when i actually DO come on, she doesnt talk much. she only talks on the phone. so i get fed up and go offline again with the no contact. she knows i want her and i pretty much confessed it too. she also told me she thinks im attractive.. but nothing ever happens? ive asked her out a couple times but she says shes busy or she'll let me know. so im like fuk this and go no contact again until she calls me yet again.. yesterday she called me twice.. the second time shes like "oh i forgot to ask, can i come over with my laptop in a few weeks time so u can help me fix it?" im a comp tech so yeah... i told her it was probably not a good idea because she knows the situation where i like her and will try kiss her again.

i dont know whats goin on cause she gives mixed signals. i told her i want a kiss for my birthday and shes like "no.. only the cheek." or i flirt with her saying "ill give u a massage" (cause i owe her one - she let me massage her in public the first time we met in a shopping mall!) anyway i got sick of playin games and told her "i cant do this.. hangin out with u n stuff. u think we gonna have a fukin tea party at my house when u come over? u know whats gonna happen and what im capable of." shes like "i can look after myself... what are u gonna do, hold me down? "

i just laughed and said goodnight. i really feel like i might be wasting my time with her.

also she keeps telling me about her being christian and that shes a virgin (wont have sex till marriage blah blah .. wont date a non christian man) yet she keeps fuking calling me all the time and asking where i am and why i aint been talkin to her like im her fukin bf? i feel like yelling at her sometimes.

right, she knows i want her bad... she flirts with me yet says things like she wont kiss me (which she didnt when i tried) or that im not her bf (which im not) and i even tell her all i do is perv on her ass when im with her.. even after i said its not a good idea to come over she didnt really agree with it. she still wants to come. so why is she saying negative things to me when she knows i want her? is it one of those "dont listen to what she says rather how she acts" things? - she also told me today how she had coffee with a guy and that she told him she wants to see him again.. then she told me he said he'll think about it and call her.. and she said to me "no big loss" why the fuk she tellin me shes seeing other guys when she knows i like her? she use to do this when i had a gf cause we were just friends then.. but now its different, yet she tells me still. she also keeps asking what hot girls are texting me .. out of the blue. see what i mean? mixed fuking signals. shes all over the place.

i dont want to hang out with a girl unless im fuking them or something. i hate having girls as friends.

this reminds me a bit like my last relationship with a girl... FRIEND. she told me straight up she only wanted to be friends but we ended up having sex anyway. is this whats happening?

opinions please

 

[Alex DeLarge]

You shouldn't have told her you wanted to kiss her. Right when You said that "you know what I'm capable" line and she said "I can look out for myself" you should've kissed her right there.

I hungout with a girl who had been a friend of mine for a few years the other night and she did the old turn her cheek when I go in for the kiss, but hungout with her the next week.. Made out with her a few times and now she's really into me. You can definitely save this situation man. This girl is definitely into you, she's just giving you sh1t tests and stuff.

Just take what you want. If you want to kiss her grab her and do it like a man. If she is hesitant then stop.

 

[thevilittletroll]

sounds to me like she's all talk and no action. i hate these types of girls, or as we like to call them c.ock tease. these are the hardest girls to read. ask yourself this question. is she actively dating other guys, if so how many? and how often? if the answer to this question is 3 or more, you have a serial c.**** tease on your hands. thats if in fact she is a virgin that she claims to be. she's only in it for validation, which improves her self esteem. one problem i see in your game here is that you said she knows that you want her. thats a big no no. you are no challenge to her, she can have you whenever she wants, there's no chase. that usually means game over. i think the only reason she has played this game with you for so long is cause you keep going no contact on her. i'd use the comp fixing as an opportunity. a couple of days before she comes over start telling her about a girl you like and ask for her advice. that should lower her defenses. when she comes over go caveman and try for the make out. if that doesnt work.....next!

 

[mahoney]

why do you actually like this girl? is there anything actually interesting about her? or is it just thats she's pretty

idk man - a christian virgin, i doubt i could be bothered with any of this

 

[HappyHarryHardon]

i do like her. we share the same interests and have lots in common. i enjoy her company whenever we hang out... the only thing i might not be comfortable with is her being a virgin and not putting out. i don't know if i could deal with that lol. she told me shes done other things.. probably bjs and stuff. but who knows.. either way, i have a high sex drive and if i need to blow often. especially if im foolin around with a girl. is it worth being with her? i dunno.. just gonna go with the flow and not do much. she can chase me cause i cant be stuffed. oh and she called again today. just for quick talk.

i keep thinking though a girl will let a guy fuk her, christian or not, if she feels its with the right guy?

 

[HappyHarryHardon]

okay she called me again today, lunch time.. left a voice message.. i was busy so i didnt know until later. she didn't really say much.. just joked around to my voice mail saying stuff like "hi <my name's> phone.. can u tell me how many hot girls call his phone?" so i didnt really think that needed a call back. she probably wanted to say happy bday or something. i thought to myself ahh fuk her.. so i didnt call back...

now i was kinda busy all day/night as i had visitors over for my bday and brother is here to stay for a while. anyway..

she calls me again 1 fuking am. i dont answer. she texts an hour later saying: "hey, if you you are deliberately ignoring me, i think the polite thing to do is to tell me why rather than ignoring my calls/messages."

i thought to myself... umm wtf? who does she think she is talking like that?? she wont kiss me.. i keep sayin lets catch up.. she just says yeah but we never do unless i am really agressive and keep harassing her about it which i cant be stuffed doing anymore. tells me about dates she has... i mean wtf? when i dont talk to her she gets all psycho on me like im her fuking bf? what gives.. the only thing i can think of is her going on ps3 and seeing i was just on before (which i was) - i wasnt ONLINE but it says how long ago i was.. and she usually checks if im on and messages me on there.

how do i respond to her text message btw? i just cant be fuked with her anymore. its either lets hook up or piss off. dont want to be friends.

please, some opinions on how to respond to this.

 

[MrRhythmic]

Either next or LJBF her - in the latter case, tell her you aren't ignoring her, something nice and aloof, maybe hinting that you've found someone more interesting.

Ideally, go and find someone more fun - it doesn't sound like you're having much fun, which IMO is the point.

Good luck!

 

[mahoney]

HER: are you ignoring me why dont you tell me if you are
ME: naw dont be silly

this is the kind of answer a girl will often give - its sort of a non-answer, you're 'reassuring' her that you're not ignoring - but at same time you're not really reassuring her that much at all. you're not apologizing, you're saying its in her own head, you're not saying lets meet up

and you put the ball in her court. dont ask this girl to meet up, the ball needs to spend more time in her court

meanwhile do other things

 

[jammy1257]

Either next or LJBF her - in the latter case, tell her you aren't ignoring her, something nice and aloof, maybe hinting that you've found someone more interesting.

Ideally, go and find someone more fun - it doesn't sound like you're having much fun, which IMO is the point.

Good luck!

I'd say tell her LJBF and then forget her, she's totally playing games with your feelings dude. You can't let her control you like this, carry on ignoring her after that! If she wants to hook up SHE WILL CONTACT YOU, otherwise she's just loving your attention and the control she has over you.

 

[st_99]

I think this is one of those situations where, what you see is what you get, a tease and someone who is NOT serious about hooking up with you.

Maybe that might change down the road, maybe it wont. Either way you're game is not working at the moment because it doesn't sound like you're getting any closer to your goal of hooking up with her, its just more of the same.

So you have a couple options. Forget about her altogether and stop communicating OR maybe switch up your game plan and hope you get closer to where you want to be.

 

[Cinamon]

I think if you ignore her it will niggle at her and she will call you.
Plan something with her provisionally, like movie or something and then don't follow it up, see if she gets her knickers in a twist. Some girls are drawn to bad guys, be bad, very very bad.

 

[sinnerman]

hot and cold and co*k tease is the worst weapon gals use. I know someone like this. She'd make a big deal about meeting me every time(though every time we meet I got laid). Then wud go NC. Wud never make plans with me. Would give me excuses and then again make up with me and flirt all over again. SAME CYCLE. And yea it does fuk your brain up.

I think you can turn this around. The most important thing you need to change is stop communicating your interest in her. She doesn't wanna kiss you. BE COOL about it. Act like it doesn't even bother you. She wants to hang out at your place..invite her. Play it cool. Be C+F. Play with her hair when she's around you. Play thumb wars. Do non sexual kino. In short create sexual tension. Massage her if she wants you too but just when she's enjoying it..STOP and talk about something else. In short turn the tables around. Don't deliberately ignore her. Answer her when she contacts but be aloof and mysterious.

 

[BettorOffSingle]

so we were friends for a LITTLE while since i recently tried to kiss her. we only known each other a few months and met up like three/four times for friendly dates. i was seeing someone at the time and she knew that. she kept giving me hints saying stuff like "well u keep telling me u have a gf." when i told her i thought she was sexy etc.. but now im single and the last time we hung out i tried kissing her when she dropped me off and she gave me the cheek and smiled saying "no ur not getting that. "

so i went no contact until she called asking where i been and why im hiding from her blah blah... since then shes been calling me often and keep telling me to go online to chat... but when i actually DO come on, she doesnt talk much. she only talks on the phone. so i get fed up and go offline again with the no contact. she knows i want her and i pretty much confessed it too. she also told me she thinks im attractive.. but nothing ever happens? ive asked her out a couple times but she says shes busy or she'll let me know. so im like fuk this and go no contact again until she calls me yet again.. yesterday she called me twice.. the second time shes like "oh i forgot to ask, can i come over with my laptop in a few weeks time so u can help me fix it?" im a comp tech so yeah... i told her it was probably not a good idea because she knows the situation where i like her and will try kiss her again.

i dont know whats goin on cause she gives mixed signals. i told her i want a kiss for my birthday and shes like "no.. only the cheek." or i flirt with her saying "ill give u a massage" (cause i owe her one - she let me massage her in public the first time we met in a shopping mall!) anyway i got sick of playin games and told her "i cant do this.. hangin out with u n stuff. u think we gonna have a fukin tea party at my house when u come over? u know whats gonna happen and what im capable of." shes like "i can look after myself... what are u gonna do, hold me down? "

i just laughed and said goodnight. i really feel like i might be wasting my time with her.

also she keeps telling me about her being christian and that shes a virgin (wont have sex till marriage blah blah .. wont date a non christian man) yet she keeps fuking calling me all the time and asking where i am and why i aint been talkin to her like im her fukin bf? i feel like yelling at her sometimes.

right, she knows i want her bad... she flirts with me yet says things like she wont kiss me (which she didnt when i tried) or that im not her bf (which im not) and i even tell her all i do is perv on her ass when im with her.. even after i said its not a good idea to come over she didnt really agree with it. she still wants to come. so why is she saying negative things to me when she knows i want her? is it one of those "dont listen to what she says rather how she acts" things? - she also told me today how she had coffee with a guy and that she told him she wants to see him again.. then she told me he said he'll think about it and call her.. and she said to me "no big loss" why the fuk she tellin me shes seeing other guys when she knows i like her? she use to do this when i had a gf cause we were just friends then.. but now its different, yet she tells me still. she also keeps asking what hot girls are texting me .. out of the blue. see what i mean? mixed fuking signals. shes all over the place.

i dont want to hang out with a girl unless im fuking them or something. i hate having girls as friends.

this reminds me a bit like my last relationship with a girl... FRIEND. she told me straight up she only wanted to be friends but we ended up having sex anyway. is this whats happening?

opinions please

Never say with 2,764 words what you can say with eleven.

Try this next time: "You can't be THAT stupid."

Then ignore her.

EVERY chick is replacable.

 

[HappyHarryHardon]

lol well same story atm.. on and off communication. she mesaged my facebook asking if i was hiding... again. i replied a few times, nothing big. next day i went msn. talked a bit. she was telling me she was a little upset the other day cause she is getting older and has no man to have a future with (she's christian so shes thinking ahead.. marriage/kids) and i just threw a random thing out there for the hell of it.. dont care much of the outcome from her or any girls atm cause im too busy to give a crap if i score with them or not.. i said "i love u <her name>" and i said i had to go and went offline.

she msg my facebook wall again and asked if i was awake.. called me. but i let it ring cause i was busy. texted her later on saying i missed her call. she called immediately and we spoke for ten mins. she mentioned about the computer thing again how its even worse and it freezes when she moves it and she would like to bring it over so i could help her take it apart (wtf? i know she can do that herself.. cause shes smart with computers too) so i said yeah no problem. she told me shes free tomorrow or thursday/friday. i said i will let her know tomorrow if im free. i threw in a few funnies saying "you just wanna come over cause you miss me ey? you want a free massage dont you." and she laughed. also told her i got some games i wanna show her on the ps3 (cause she has a ps3 and we tease each other about how she doesnt play REAL games.. just singstar or some crap) she responded well to that by a small happy laugh and saying okay!

she said shes very busy studying and stuff so i figure just get her over already ... this sh1ts been dragging on too long now.

the big question here is: why does she really want to come over? to really fix her computer or because she wants me?

she knows i want her yet shes going to make herself vulnerable being in my bedroom?

 

[HappyHarryHardon]

soooo.... bumpety bump?

 

[Asasione]

Just f*ck her already! Escalate and see if she responds positively and let's you do what you want and you'll have your answer. She might give token resistance just water off your back, pull back and try after some time. Good luck

 

[yuppaz]

Ya dude just make out with her a bit and try to put your d*ck in her mouth. Not much game playing to be done with your d&ck in her mouth

 

[HappyHarryHardon]

okay she just left my place. it all went well. she brought her laptop but we didn't even fix nothing we just put it aside, i started giving her a massage and went for a kiss when i was massaging her head. made out a while then i got her top off and bra, suked nipples etc.. she was enjoying that and moaning a lot. i even grabbed her crotch a few times but i decided not to go any further and try take her jeans off. we dry humped a lot. this all went for maybe an hour.

this was basically our "first" proper date or whatever since we were friends when i was with my ex. i was a little surprised that she let me do all that to her being "christian" and all. but yeah, anything more than that i would of probably thought she was too easy plus i wanted to keep the sexual tension up instead of just tryin to have sex the first time shes over.

went out for dinner and hung out at the shopping center, held hands and then she dropped me home and that was that. kiss goodbye etc.

i am starting to wonder if she's had sex before or not.. she claims shes a virgin/christian. so who knows. she did tell me a long time ago when we were friends that she's done things to her ex bf. probably bj's and her getting fingered i assume. maybe even close to sex.

 

[Huffman]

Well done bro! Before I read your last post I was going to suggest you go for it again too. Because I had the impression that you had completely backed off after the first failed kiss and become shy - which demonstrates to her that you are easily hurt.

Obviously you proved her wrong

 

[tafakna]

this reminds me a bit like my last relationship with a girl... FRIEND. she told me straight up she only wanted to be friends but we ended up having sex anyway. is this whats happening?

You're acting like a friend.

You are coming across as needy, clingy, and the only reason you didn't get the boot yet is because you've established a friendship and she seems to be valuing that.

Sorry for being so upfront.

You told about your feelings, you're trying to steal a kiss instead of making her wanting one, you're always available whenever she bluffs and whenever she calls.

You might get in her pants, specially if she's a virgin because a 'friend' fits the criteria a lot of girls want for their first time, but I think you're walking a very thin line here.