Wow, I can't believe it!!! Cold Approaching does work

[guywhoneedshelp]

This is hilarious. :clap:

 

[pamebruno]

hheheheheh i love this forum. cause for me it makes me see the "other side" i mean how u guys think.... of course cold approaching work, not all the time, it just works when we women feel some attraction coming from njowhere you know? this 6th sense we always talk about jejejeje.... cause i had it befor, but i had also have the arward guys coming to me suddenly, so it all depends. but actually, what the **** do you have to lose?

 

[decades]

it does work..roughly 1 out of every 20 times. Those are odds I can do without.

 

[The Texas Tornado]

where'd you get that statistic?

and even if it was 1/20, that'd be pretty good. when you go to a typical bar or nightclub over the course of the night there will be WAY more than 20 girls. that means that one who can approach can go out any night of the week and get laid. those are odds i could do with.

but yeah, where did you get those "facts"?

 

[decades]

try it and you will see. There were two guys (on another forum) who each did their own distinct cold approach experiments and reported back and they both concluded the same thing, that it works 5% of the time. And it makes sense no? This is about = to the odds of something random happening, which is about what your chances are when cold approaching. It's entirely a numbers game. 5% of the time you will run into a situation where someone says YES from a purely cold approach. I don't care if someone wants to hit up 20 chicks to get one date. That's your business and what you want to do with your time. I would rather spend my time doing other things, like working on inner game.

 

[justiceseeker]

This is funny. Texastornado says that a 5 percent chance of success is good. A while back, I suggested that instead of cold approaching for a number, you should leave the girl your "business" card with your number on it and have her call you back if she wants.

My philosophy was if she called you, GREAT. If she didn't who cares? And you didn't get rejected right away. Myself and others have had about a 15 percent success rate with this method. But OH NO, the cold approachers screamed that it was being passive and that a 15 percent success rate was too low. But they're willing to make asses out of themselves for 5 percent?


I think 5 percent is about correct. These idiots who come on here talking about how a "friend" picked up movie stars and got laid at a stop light are delusional. What's sad, is that people believe them. I've already challenged one of these butt plugs to come by me, and go to a mall. I'll sit back and observe what their success rate really is. If and when it happens, I'll be sure to report back to you guys.

 

[The Texas Tornado]

lol justiceseeker. dude you need to expand your sense of reality. that type of stuff really is possible. people HAVE picked up actresses/models. people HAVE gotten same day lays off cold approaches. also none of us acknowledged that it was 5%, we were saying that even if that flawed statistic was true, it'd still be worth it. would you rather go to a club, hit on 20 chicks and get laid, or go to a club and give out business cards like some fag? you also have less credibility than any of the guys who previously posted evidence. you're the one who posted that convo where you mercilessly ripped on some girl who you said was disgustingly ugly, then later claimed she was actually hot (LMAO) and that she was begging for a date. nobody believed you and everybody was laughin at yo azz. you are not one to say that people are delusional or not credible lol. and yes i have bedded girls off cold approaches at clubs/parties lol. and i'm not even really good at it yet. i really hope you are talking about just daygame (even though you'd still be wrong, as so many examples on this forum that you ignored/accused of being false have proved) because if you are trying to say you can't get laid from a bar or club cold approach then i dont' even really see a need to argue against that lol.

and lol at you asking for people to film sh1t for you or prove it to you. do you think anybody here really cares enough about your opinion to fly out to wherever the hell you are and put on a show for you? the only reason we're even responding to you is because we don't want newbies to read your sh1t and get discouraged.

PE - thats still really flawed. like i said in the thread i posted, cold approach is a skill and you get better and better at it, thus increasing your success rate. i'd like to see the link to this "study." do you REALLY believe that it was a valid study? were these people guys who had put an honest effort into developing the skills needed to get good at cold approaching? or were they going out and randomly asking for dates? there are a lot of factors man.

there is a whole science/community dedicated to this type of stuff. i'm surprised so many people are ignorant about it. there are people out there who would wow you with the type of stuff they could pull off. it's just so beyond the realities of most people, but i wouldn't think it would be out of the reality of people on this forum lol.

 

[r0cky]

try it and you will see. There were two guys (on another forum) who each did their own distinct cold approach experiments and reported back and they both concluded the same thing, that it works 5% of the time. And it makes sense no? This is about = to the odds of something random happening, which is about what your chances are when cold approaching. It's entirely a numbers game. 5% of the time you will run into a situation where someone says YES from a purely cold approach. I don't care if someone wants to hit up 20 chicks to get one date. That's your business and what you want to do with your time. I would rather spend my time doing other things, like working on inner game.

It depends on how good the guys are. AFC Adam's success rate is about 50%.
(50% of his approaches are turn into day 2s)
So like everything else, its something you have to work to be good at it.

 

[The Texas Tornado]

i agree with r0cky. how good were these guys? what work did they do to systematically improve their skills? my guess is that they were just going up and asking for dates. anyways you obviously can't derive a statistic from such a small sample size. but i respect your choice in not doing it. i'm not saying that cold approaching is for everyone and that everybody should do it. just that people need to stop saying it DOESNT work when they have no evidence/experience

anyways more proof:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=147990&highlight=walmart
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/field-reports/73399-lr-strip-club-bj.html
http://www.theattractionforums.com/...-lr-jtrs-how-approach-f-close-15-minutes.html
http://www.theattractionforums.com/...rty-event-many-set-many-numer-closes-lay.html
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/field-reports/72971-lr-walk-through-bryant-park-nyc.html
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/field-reports/69029-lr-hb10-street-set.html

 

[Snow Plowman]

Didn't read the whole thread but...about the whole % BS...I don't think that hold much weight.

Many guys are in this for different reasons and focusing on different things...
- Some guys like like actually socializing with the whole venue so if he talks to 50 people he can on pull one that would be 2%
- Some guys just want to talk to one chick and pull ITS IMPOSSIBLE to get every chick for reasons explained later...
- Some guys have gfs and only socialize for the sake of socializing
- Some guys want to just take social skills to an advanced level and don't care about lays

I can go on and on...the thing is there are certain things you can't control...
- She might live with her BF
- She might be married
- She might be a chick that doesn't meet your values
- Logistics are bad...leaving tomorrow...live hours away with her parents...

You never know her situation which is way great sets can flake too...but that doesn't mean you can't get every set into you...you just can't fuk them all.

Honestly anyone not willing to get good at cold approaching is wasting there time...because that is like your foundation that makes everything else easy. It is SO easy to pull from your social circle once you've been able to get laid off cold approaching...

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Sorry but that give card thing is bullsh1t no doubt. Most women will never call first, even if they are interested. Its our job. Also Persistent Extraction, 5% seems pretty good odds. i don't see what's so bad about it. It is always a numbers game. Also, from the study...we have no idea how their conversations went and what not. They could've done the approach and ask number immediately for all we know. Sorry justice, but TT flat out owned u.

 

[decades]

when I say 5% consider that this is probably the "close" rate, not the "date" rate. It wasn't a formal study. It was two guys who Practice this, one was a comedian, both considered good looking. They reported back that there isn't any One reason that you get a NO but it's just the way the numbers worked out. Also realize that some guys are going to do better than this, perhaps a lot better, due to being wired correctly, looking good, knowing what to say, etc, and some guys will Never close on cold approaches, also for a variety of reasons, some beyond their control. So think of the 5% CLOSE rate as an average for a very wide range of guys with various looks, skill sets, and personalities. Anybody who says they get day 2s on 50% of cold approaches imo is not really cold approaching. they are targeting their approaches intelligently.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Persistent Extraction, the way ur making it sound like in the last part is that cold approaching isn't smart. C'mon man, Cold approaching is a very smart idea for eventually having sex with the girls u physically desire the most. But don't forget, AFC Adam is big on Pivots and Social Proof Game, so that def can affect the 50% ALOT. The key, in my opinion, is to not rely on those things but urself for cold approaching. Hell Social Proof and Pivoting prolly shouldn't even be a concern with us.

 

[justiceseeker]

Unlike texastornado, I don't derive my self esteem or friends from online chat forums. On one hand he says people are laughing at me, and on the next he's saying nobody cares?

Actually, Noob and I have set something up. He's flying by me, and I'm going to follow him around and verify his results. So tornado, I guess somebody did care enough to come and try to prove it.

I don't like him, but at least he has the guts to show up and try to back his **** up. Tornado the butt pirate just talks **** hiding behind his computer.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Unlike texastornado, I don't derive my self esteem or friends from online chat forums. On one hand he says people are laughing at me, and on the next he's saying nobody cares?

He is right. People are laughing at you and they don't care to try to prove it to you, so he's right.

Actually, Noob and I have set something up. He's flying by me, and I'm going to follow him around and verify his results. So tornado, I guess somebody did care enough to come and try to prove it.

Noob is def being over generous here.

I don't like him, but at least he has the guts to show up and try to back his **** up. Tornado the butt pirate just talks **** hiding behind his computer.

Nope, i know Texas Tornado personally and he speaks the truth. We have sarged together before. He has the credibility. So u def are the one hiding behind ur computer. Why don't u fly to Noob instead of him coming to you? If ur that deadset on trying to prove us cold approach practicioners wrong, then u'd be the one to buy a ticket.

 

[ready123]

You guys are fvcking idiots. I'm not afraid to cold approach, but there are other, more effective ways to get women.

club game is way harder than cold approaching. in the club, the girl's comprehension level is lower, you're competing with the noise in the environment, and you have to deal with drunk cckblocks or the girl's fat friend who isn't having any fun

cold approaching - as long as you're not wierd, most girls will be friendly. i'd say over half of the girls who aren't even giving IOI's will still instantly fall into your frame

 

[justiceseeker]

He is right. People are laughing at you and they don't care to try to prove it to you, so he's right.


Noob is def being over generous here.


Nope, i know Texas Tornado personally and he speaks the truth. We have sarged together before. He has the credibility. So u def are the one hiding behind ur computer. Why don't u fly to Noob instead of him coming to you? If ur that deadset on trying to prove us cold approach practicioners wrong, then u'd be the one to buy a ticket.

I'd glady fly there, I'd even fly by you too. I'm not the one making the bull**** claims. YOU GUYS ARE. Back your bull**** up or go home.

Let me know if you want me to fly there. I'll go sarging with you guys. We'll see how good you really are. ****ing butt buddies.

 

[Cassanova_Child]

ok.... i definetely agree with you on that you can make up anything on this site... dude, its the ****ing internet. why do you think dateline exists? because 79 year old pervs say their 16 and try to bang 12 year old chicks.

BUT

cold approaching is fine. when you really think about it, every time you approach a chick it will be a cold approach, at least the first time, cause you dont KNOW HER.

just stop whining.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

iafyb,
thru friends and relatives. thats the fastest way.

That is a easy way. But, ask yourself this. How did you get those friends in the first place?? They didn't magicly appear! You just randomly started talking to other kids when you were young. Boom, you became friends.

Only difference is now, its women. You see a woman you like you go for it. Don't wait for friends and family to find you a girl to meet. Real "players" and guys who have success with women cold approach. You don't always succeed but, it does work.

 

[DJVladdy]

I'd looove me some Kim Kardashian

Ray J is lame - I would do her better anyways