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Not sure why people here say no.

This community by itself is a self-improvement community for women.

So yes, you should read as much as you can but if you are going to watch courses make sure you choose the one that make sense and filter the crap.

You have plenty of info here on this forum to learn, but remember, you need a mentor or someone to teach you so you can remove years of learning and doing mistakes and personal experience and some failure is good to get the wheels going.
 

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Generally a majority of advice with women is only useful as you become more experienced and confident with them

You can't give a guy who struggles to talk to women advice on how to talk to women becuase he's inherently unconfident and most women will strike a man out straight out for not being composed.

Confidence is something that comes from both repeated failure and success it can't be taught you have to earn it
 

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I believe what I did is replicable
Nothing anybody does is replicable.

Except doing something like operating on inert ingredients like carpentry.

Even then it's hard to replicate somebody else's success.

Any success you had in the social arena is largely based in mostly subconscious factors.

That can't be taught, can only be learned by trial and error through a ton of effort and discipline, something most guys don't have.
 

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Nothing anybody does is replicable.

Except doing something like operating on inert ingredients like carpentry.

Even then it's hard to replicate somebody else's success.

Any success you had in the social arena is largely based in mostly subconscious factors.

That can't be taught, can only be learned by trial and error through a ton of effort and discipline, something most guys don't have.
You can absolutely replicate success - how do you think the fitness industry exists?

What's replicable is the process.

Not everybody is going to be a 6ft tall good-looking white guy in the USA...but EVERYBODY can approach girls and learn how to develop confidence.
 

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how do you think the fitness industry exists?
The fitness industry doesn't exist because people are replicating success.

The fitness industry exists because there are plenty of fat people who want to not be fat, but continue to be fat, and keep paying money into the fitness industry to hopefully one day not be fat.
 

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From my part, I would read something coming from a guy that has all his bases covered in life, money, physique, women, life, passions. Not from someone who's only success in sleeping around, while is great, red pill is more than that, I would assume most men in here are in an age where women should be a compliment, not the focus.

You're pretty much saying, "put this bucket on my head, like I did and look what it did to me" but then I see you have only the women part figured out, and I don't want to live your life.
That seems like a flawed perspective...

So you wouldn't listen to the advice of a billionaire on how to make money if he were out of shape, for example? Because he doesn't have all his bases covered you don't think there's something to be learned from somebody who has THAT base covered?

The fitness industry doesn't exist because people are replicating success.

The fitness industry exists because there are plenty of fat people who want to not be fat, but continue to be fat, and keep paying money into the fitness industry to hopefully one day not be fat.
No. It exists because there are people who are in shape that help other people get in shape. When I started lifting I didn't go to the gym and try to figure out everything on my own - I worked with a trainer who had achieved the goal I was striving for and listened to him.
 

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I gave you my opinion. Money makes a man's life easier and with a purpose, if a man's purpose is to find women when other metrics in his life is $hit his aiming his cannon the wrong way, I wouldn't want that life, I would follow the advice of a man that his life figured out in all metrics in his life, but again that's my opinion, you're free to disagree
Fair enough, I'm just surprised by that rationale. It seems close-minded to disregard info or advice person skilled in area simply because they're not skilled in ALL areas.

But to each their own.
 

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I gave you my opinion. Money makes a man's life easier and with a purpose, if a man's purpose is to find women when other metrics in his life is $hit his aiming his cannon the wrong way, I wouldn't want that life, I would follow the advice of a man that his life figured out in all metrics in his life, but again that's my opinion, you're free to disagree
I have to agree with AKOG on this one..
Heck, I wish I read that post 15 years ago and acted accordingly. I did the opposite by putting all my chips on "women and love". Got a high body count ect but NOTHING to show for now .

Time doesn't move backwards. One day boom you're balding. Boom high debt. Boom sloot impregnated. You fall in love with hb8,5 Boom she dumps you. Between 30 and 40 is when life can (yet/still) be grabbed by the ballz, or when a man will finally miss that last boat. You will need between 5 and 10 years to make up for lost opportunities AND it HAS to be backed up fierce determination, discipline, eagerness and charm. There are 21 y.o kids that have their shyte together. Let that sink in..


.So to go with @All_Kindz_Of_Gainz type of advice: maybe that quote on quote "time" is better spent watching a how to video.

Because a man who covered all those areas in life and has his shyte together will DEFINITELY fish from a different pond than a broke man with even tons of game. I would've complimented myself drastically by having my shyte together and probably a body count in the very high hunderds...sometimes I felt so embarrassed for my situation that I ditched fine women, even easy lays...

That being said: I would read it tho...
 
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If I were to do that, would you take the time to read something so lengthy?
Probably, yes. Send me a copy.

I read Elliot Rodger's Manifesto, all 142 pages of self-indulgent incel whining; and Roosh's insipid 'Day Bang', so I'm sure whatever you write can't be worse than that.
 
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