Men are "prissy" because they have their own personal preferences and don't lose frame over it?As mentioned in my above comment (the one that prompted you to respond). Most women I date are against smoking. Apparently, they see positive qualities that i possess that seem override their smoking objection.
In response to your question, I'd ask that you re-read my initial above posting. My criticisms weren't based on a personal preferred lifestyle (although I do mock those that follow fashion trends ie; beards, tattoos etc...) . Basically, I was criticizing a lot of the non-smoking males for getting into a tizzy over smokers. The non-smoking women that I date ... do not act nearly as prissy.
Throughout my life, I've had friends that ranged from straight edge to heroin users. I have no problem with either lifestyle. I judge people based on their character - not by their recreational choices.
Former smoker here as well. Didn’t you notice how bad smokers smell once you quit? Not the actual second hand smoke, but the bad breath and how your clothes smell from being in a smoky bar/car. That enough is a deal breaker.former smoker here but I never can get my head around the holier than thou attitude of non smokers. Being a smoker suggests: risk taker, fun, daring, doesn’t GAF.
Non smoker suggests: boring, timid, scaredy cat!
obviously joking as I haven’t smoked for years, I’ll have one on occasion but I don’t really like them anymore.
but jeez, you wouldn’t date someone because they smoke? Just a bit weird and up ones own backside!
In school it was the much more fun kids who broke rules and smoked. It was the annoying do gooders who were “it smells and it’s bad for you”
things may have changed now, this was the 90s
im British dude my teeth are awful anywayFormer smoker here as well. Didn’t you notice how bad smokers smell once you quit? Not the actual second hand smoke, but the bad breath and how your clothes smell from being in a smoky bar/car. That enough is a deal breaker.
I was at a party with friends over the weekend that I haven’t seen in years. A lot of them still smoke. I couldn’t help but notice the actual brown stains they had on their teeth. I know I smoked more than all of them in my partying days. Glad I was able to quit. Almost every one of them throughout the night commented how much they wish they could stop. I didn’t provoke those comments it was when they were running low on cigs and made the empty comment, “Ugh, I know I should quit.”
Funny (not in a "haha' way, but in a peculiar way).Men are "prissy" because they have their own personal preferences and don't lose frame over it?
For many, smoking is a deal breaker. Me included. Putting up with something that you don't like is a beta trait. I really don't care if someone wants to smoke, its just not for me and not someone I would want to date. Preferences and our own standards that come from them are certainly not prissy.
Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer. When people drive while smoking they tend to relax excessively and lose sight of the flow of traffic.i think that’s your own bias. The idea smokers drive any differently is pretty odd. Also given the fact that smokers are risk takers, and non smokers are risk adverse, I’d say the opposite is likely true.
I’m a former smoker of many moons ago, so I don’t have bias as such.
I would guess that relentless campaigns by health authorities/social progressives may have clouded the issue somewhat.
in terms of entitlement, I don’t see smokers demanding the right to smoke in other peoples living rooms and public spaces. Yet, non smokers are on the verge of banning smoking in all public Spaces in a number of countries. That’s highly authoritarian and illiberal.
It really is odd how vitriolic the anti smoking feeling is. I guess if you just repeat a message enough times in the media you can manufacture whatever grievance you want.
classic in group/out group dynamic. Smoking a fag, provided you aren’t literally blowing it in someone’a face doesn’t harm anyone but the smoker. The passive smoking figures are pretty overblown anyway. you most likely have more to risk from diesel fumes, but I don’t see diesel drivers being demonised.
live and let live.
former smoker.Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer. When people drive while smoking they tend to relax excessively and lose sight of the flow of traffic.
The perceived “vitriol” against smokers is because you as a smoker are denying others the right to breath fresh air. You are invading their space by injecting a disgusting and unhealthy stench into the air. Your reply defending the habit is a perfect example of the selfish aspect of it. You have no concept of how disgusting and disagreeable that stink is to the majority of people because you immerse yourself in it continuously (if you’re still a smoker).
I have good news!Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer. When people drive while smoking they tend to relax excessively and lose sight of the flow of traffic.
The perceived “vitriol” against smokers is because you as a smoker are denying others the right to breath fresh air. You are invading their space by injecting a disgusting and unhealthy stench into the air. Your reply defending the habit is a perfect example of the selfish aspect of it. You have no concept of how disgusting and disagreeable that stink is to the majority of people because you immerse yourself in it continuously (if you’re still a smoker).
By date, if you meant get my D suckd you would be accurate.I don't like smoking so no I probably wouldn't. I would get annoyed with it in time.
If you are insinuating that I got defensive, that is not true. I know what I prefer and that is all that matters. Its not judging, its just preference.it's sort of a given... that women will sometimes get emotional and defensive over a topic that they've drawn out of proportion. No offence, but this seems to be the case here.
Lol at least you were able to quit. Think of the money you saved. It really was the dumbest habit I ever partook. That being said, damn I could go for a drag.im British dude my teeth are awful anyway
Just to develop this further, do you know who was the first government to have an anti smoking campaign?This thread has become hilarious - how could a simple question about whether you'd date a girl who smokes degenerate into discussions about men who are against smoking being less manly, women who smoke having mental issues and people who smoke drive slower? Lol.
Just to develop this further, do you know who was the first government to have an anti smoking campaign?
1930s Germany. NAZis
just saying....the NAZIs were actually fervent anti smokers.