Would marry a girl for money?

[Manure Spherian]

Would you marry her knowing that you never gonna love her the way you loved in the past?

You never got around to this. What do you mean love but not love as one had in the past? This implies a romantic notion of love and genuine love can result from going through life together.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hell no.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Hell no. That's what weak faggots do.

Count on no one but yourself.

The fact this dumbassery even comes up is concerning.

Marriage is a sexual and an economic union and a conjoining of two families, not just two lovebirds. I don’t see how considering the wealth one brings is an element of fagg0try.

I believe the individualistic, romantic view of marriage has deteriorated marriage. Of course family court/divorce industry did the final wrecking.

 

[RickTheToad]

So you earn around $230k vs you GF $160k?

Give or take a few, but yes. Day job is a physicians assistant. Side job is renting and managing my investment properties.

 

[RickTheToad]

Lets say in the past you were a couple, but you didn't love her like you did to others, but she was in love with you. Now you two started to hang out again, you still don't love her, but you like her, sex is great, she is very submissive and feminine.

Also, lets say her parents have a lot of money, properties and mansions, they know about you from the past, and they want you to be part of that family in the now.

Would you marry her knowing that you never gonna love her the way you loved in the past?

Asking for a friend.

Is this friend you?

 

[New_Journey]

Is this friend you?

No.

 

[plumber]

People stay together for reasons such as status, wealth, or genuine connection.

Status- or wealth LTRs often involve people seeking to fulfill their needs rather than experiencing genuine love and respect. These relationships can be tumultuous, characterized by a lack of respect and diminished femininity.

In contrast, genuine connection LTRs involve mutual respect and femininity from her, but individuals may meet their needs independently.

Both types of relationships can last a long time, but only the individuals involved can determine whether staying in the relationship is preferable to being single. Ultimately, it is a personal choice.

Consider my cousin, who is in a LTR with his high school girlfriend. She chose him because he is set to inherit her father's company. They had children (primarily to bind him to her) and subsequently married and merged their finances. He resides in her home, and she covers all expenses, including vacations. She has secured her "survival" and cultivated the "image" of a respectable family woman. However, their relationship is not based on mutual affection or chemistry.

In this situation, the man benefits from financial security and an easy job (earning well while doing little). However, his masculine needs remain unmet. Additionally, he is subservient to her family.
If he were to cheat on her without her knowledge, it would still be wrong, but at least he would be fulfilling his own needs.

He remains in the relationship because he possesses sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies and enjoys the associated "status" people give him, because of the name of the business. But he know he has not value to his own eyes.

Maintaining independence is essential.
Being in a genuine LTR, also.
He will eventually realize that he is unhappy.
If he desires to be a man, this is not the path to take.

You need to be the captain of the ship, not a member of the staff.

some of this is all about self talks.

the OP case is a little different. but the key is how the man manages his own mind. everyone's ship is within a larger ship or ocean. if the man can be captain of his own ship, while managing his own ship he might work together with a larger ship to increase his own ship.

If a woman is in love with a man, and its for sure not for money... that's a good thing for the man. red pill 101 is that the girls should like the man more than the man likes the girl. this avoids the problem where the man gives in to the woman's emotions.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

The father-in-law is the patriarch in this scenario and he will call the shots. Period. You or your friend will be expected to father her children, be a respectable husband & father, reflect well on her & her parents.

His sexual loyalty will be required and expected.

The father-in-law, if he is smart will continue to own & control all assets (so your friend will own no interest in family assets and he may be required to sign a legal agreement that he gets nothing in the event of infidelity.)

So her dad is going to control things, make no mistake about that.

 

[zekko]

You dont believe in unicorns and this rich girl passes the boner test, so the real question is: Why wouldnt you marry her for money?

Yeah, I agree with this. I've always kind of thought that relationships tend to work better when there aren't so many strong emotions involved.

 

[jhonny9546]

He doesn't fvck his wife? Has he told you?

She cheated, He forgave her.
She now tried to cheat again.

He's not masculine because he lives there, he is not masculine because that's how he is. A prize is not the prize because he has material things, its because he has inherent value, he knows. A masculine man no matter the circumstances, will remain a masculine man.

I didn't understand this part

If a woman is in love with a man, and its for sure not for money...

Can he provide that lifestyle through his company?
Then he will be loved for that.
So he'll get ****ed for that, and not out of genuine attraction.

@BeExcellent
In most cases, it is the father-in-law who chooses the "good match", even if the daughter is unhappy with the choice, she will be devoted to representing the image of the "happy family".
In that case, 2 things could happen: 1, she will remain like that, 2, the discontent and frustration changes her and she no longer accepts the authority of the father and at that point she will do her own thing.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Yeah, I agree with this. I've always kind of thought that relationships tend to work better when there aren't so many strong emotions involved.

You’ll see those who put hefty emphasis on romantic love “get bored,” as if partners should be sources of entertainment, jestermaxxers of both sexes. One guy on here was annoyed with his live-in girlfriend because, although she didn’t get in his way for business he took care of in his office and was a responsible, employed woman, she enjoyed television while he did so and wouldn’t “do something”. Do what, who knows?

 

[BeExcellent]

Not true @jhonny9546 in the US. Maybe in Italy but less true here. I came from an affluent influential family but I and my sisters chose our own mates.

I do know women whose families set up trusts to deed assets to their daughters (so those assets cannot be taken by a non family member) and I know families in similar situations like the one OP is describing.

The first man I dated a year after my divorce & 6 months after his divorce involved a man coming out of just such a marriage as OP describes. Turns out his ex wife was BPD diagnosed (researching that led me here 10 years ago), which does not appear to be the case for OP.....he was a film editor in Hollywood, working on movies gig to gig (uneven but high income), and between gigs he had a cushy job at the father-in-law's company. The ex wife is a TV producer also making a very high income.

He married her for the same reasons as noted by OP, and the father-in-law (who owned a multi million dollar manufacturing firm) dictated where they lived, and many other things. When they divorced after 20 some years the father-in-law had unlimited money to work over the husband in court. It was very very ugly and awful for him. Even after their "War of the Roses" divorce was final the ex wife and the father-in-law blugeoned the ex husband with child custody injunctions, tried to strip away his parental rights (the children were all teens and he was a devoted father), and he went broke trying to defend these frivolous claims. Total power plays by the ex wife & her family & it put him through hell (our relationship ended because he had to focus all his energy on getting through those years in his life.) The ex wife and her family were diabolical.

He told me he knew he shouldn't have married her before he got married, but he set aside his concerns for a comfortable life.....

And he paid for it.

He is now happily remarried to a younger woman who he loves but it not crazy/passionate about. He met her about a year after our LTR ended....and they dated 6 years before they married. He seems happy & content now. His children are all adults now so he rarely has to deal with the ex wife or her family now.

 

[RickTheToad]

Not true @jhonny9546 in the US. Maybe in Italy but less true here. I came from an affluent influential family but I and my sisters chose our own mates.

I do know women whose families set up trusts to deed assets to their daughters (so those assets cannot be taken by a non family member) and I know families in similar situations like the one OP is describing.

The first man I dated a year after my divorce & 6 months after his divorce involved a man coming out of just such a marriage as OP describes. Turns out his ex wife was BPD diagnosed (researching that led me here 10 years ago), which does not appear to be the case for OP.....he was a film editor in Hollywood, working on movies gig to gig (uneven but high income), and between gigs he had a cushy job at the father-in-law's company. The ex wife is a TV producer also making a very high income.

He married her for the same reasons as noted by OP, and the father-in-law (who owned a multi million dollar manufacturing firm) dictated where they lived, and many other things. When they divorced after 20 some years the father-in-law had unlimited money to work over the husband in court. It was very very ugly and awful for him. Even after their "War of the Roses" divorce was final the ex wife and the father-in-law blugeoned the ex husband with child custody injunctions, tried to strip away his parental rights (the children were all teens and he was a devoted father), and he went broke trying to defend these frivolous claims. Total power plays by the ex wife & her family & it put him through hell (our relationship ended because he had to focus all his energy on getting through those years in his life.) The ex wife and her family were diabolical.

He told me he knew he shouldn't have married her before he got married, but he set aside his concerns for a comfortable life.....

And he paid for it.

He is now happily remarried to a younger woman who he loves but it not crazy/passionate about. He met her about a year after our LTR ended....and they dated 6 years before they married. He seems happy & content now. His children are all adults now so he rarely has to deal with the ex wife or her family now.

And this is why it's best to avoid a marriage sanctioned by the state. The innocent party, usually, never wins.

 

[BeExcellent]

And this is why it's best to avoid a marriage sanctioned by the state. The innocent party, usually, never wins.

I don't disagree.

 

[DJ Novice]

Money is a factor you need to consider but plenty of wealthy couples still separate and get divorced regardless of whose family the wealth comes from.

If you marry or get into a relationship purely for money you will eventually end up unsatisfied sexually and emotionally with a lifestyle you might find difficult to give up.

My ex wife’s parents are very well off (beachside house, large estate) but that was a bonus and it wasn’t a factor I lost any sleep about when we divorced (except to hope that her parents’ wealth eventually passes on to her and then onto my children when she passes away).

 

[plumber]

So remove the money, and then look at the rest of the question. Situation is exactly what is prescribed. good looking girl loves you more than you do her. sex is great, she is submissive. what else could you want.

next question is are you alpha enough to hold your own with the alpha father....

not going to get divorce raped... right....

this is similar to to all setups where the state is really the rich dad of the girl.

sounds like a great deal, this one.

 

[jhonny9546]

@BeExcellent
This is the case of Italian families, you see many cases like these here.
And I'll tell you more: some women will be very happy to satisfy this "fantasy" of their fathers.
As anticipated, most are "masculine" and "materialistic".

This is the case that explains why when an Italian meets a foreign woman, he marries her immediately: feminine, not materialistic, and in any case with traits of a mother and lover.

 

[New_Journey]

If you marry or get into a relationship purely for money you will eventually end up unsatisfied sexually and emotionally

This is a BS fallacy of romantic love. Every man on earth who has been in a relationship, no matter how great the girl is, he will want to fvck other women, its nature is in the DNA. I was in a very loving relationship, sexually and emotionally satisfied, and I just couldn't stop thinking about fvcking other women on the side.

Many will disagree with me, but I gave this advice to him. Be pragmatic, date her without rushing, if things go well get in a relationship with her. When he has the urge to fvck other women, do it quietly, make the logistics happen far away from where he lives, don't embarrass her and deny everything if she has no proof, nobody has to know, but he also should treat her like the queen she is to him, but on the side, if he wants to fvck other women, he should do it without any emotional investment.

 

[BeExcellent]

This is a BS fallacy of romantic love. Every man on earth who has been in a relationship, no matter how great the girl is, he will want to fvck other women, its nature is in the DNA. I was in a very loving relationship, sexually and emotionally satisfied, and I just couldn't stop thinking about fvcking other women on the side.

Many will disagree with me, but I gave this advice to him. Be pragmatic, date her without rushing, if things go well get in a relationship with her. When he has the urge to fvck other women, do it quietly, make the logistics happen far away from where he lives, don't embarrass her and deny everything if she has no proof, nobody has to know, but he also should treat her like the queen she is to him, but on the side, if he wants to fvck other women, he should do it without any emotional investment.

One of the issues with this strategy is that unless he wears a condom every single time (and even possible if he does religiously wear one), he will sooner or later bring home a STD.

When that happens she will be mortified/embarrassed & her family will be furious.

So his desire to fvck around, in your mind, is more important than her health, and the health of his children.

Pretty idiotic.

Active herpes can infect an infant coming down the birth canal and cause blindness if it gets in the eyes, Yeast imbalances can cause thrush in the baby and the mother, there's HIV risk, HPV that can cause cervical cancer, it can be very ugly the health consequences you can expose a woman to through promiscuous behavior. Even if the indiscretion happens far away the consequences can come home to roost.

Hopefully your friend has enough intelligence to look into this.

You see a woman's body calibrates to the intersection of her vaginal flora with his semen & flora. Her body knows his body and her flora and immune system get accustomed to his flora, pH, etc. So you don't get weird discharges, infections, smells etc in a monogamous sexual relationship, under normal circumstances.

So if your friend decides to dip his djck in strange vagina? Guess what happens? The new woman's vaginal juice is dfferent that the monogamous woman's, and voila! You get bacterial vaginosis (BV) which is foul smelling bacterial overgrowth in the loyal woman's vagina from the introduction of another woman's biology/flora, carried home in the urethra of the man (your penis scoops up microbes from your sexual encouters, especially if you are raw without a condom), and this woman to woman cross contamination from the man's promiscuity causes the BV infection in the monogamous female partner.

Not cool. Same can occur with yeast or candida.

Hopefully she will cheat on him too. Fair is fair right? Or are you going to give me the its OK if men cheat spiel again.

He needs to be monogamous if he commits to her. But he's your friend so like you, probably lacks character. Poor girl.