World Cup 2014

[Jaylan]

Oh boy, you seem to have a hard problem understanding my point dont you?

Werent you, in an earlier reply, saying we should all get back to enjoying the tournament and stop bickering? Or was that someone else? The thread was on that track, and yet again, you cannot resist getting in arguments with people. Learn to lay off, drop your ego, and discuss football without the arrogant need to be "right".

Whats worse is that you needed to run to another thread in order to create some new argument here. What I said in the other thread has NOTHING to do with this one. And the points I made in that other thread are valid regarding the poster I was addressing.

Like I said earlier, you have not been right about all your predictions or opinions on the sport. Everyone in here will not be right about everything. Yet you are too arrogant to accept that. When you become a professional pundit of football, then maybe you can sit and argue all day and think youre opinion is so great. Till then, drop the ego, and let everyone enjoy a positive soccer discussion.

The common denominator is all of the long winded disagreements in this thread is you. Realize that you need to get a hold of your ego a little bit.

 

[Jaylan]

No need for in-depth analysis. Germany will win because they play team football and Argentina does not.

All the matches speak for themselves. Argentina barely wins all of their games. Germany has controlled and convincingly won more of their games than not. They dont need late game theatrics to win.

 

[DJFear]

Disappointed with todays game to be honest. Given how creative and attacking both Dutch and Arg can be, this was a total snooze fest. Both seemed to play not to lose rather than to win. Only penalties at the end provided some entertainment and drama.
In the final cant really see Argentina beating Germany on this form. And I hope Brasil atleast can show some pride and beat the Dutch for 3rd place. Their nation needs some positivity after the walloping they took.

 

[Watawata]

Argentina didnt breeze past switzerland, they almost went to penlties, same with holland and wasnt gemany going to demolish algeria? I can count on this thread to make me laught a bit

 

[Jaylan]

I stated those teams were all going to win, and they did.

But yeah go on and tell us more about how exciting the Spanish national team was :crackup:

And here you go again. Why a need to say how "right" you are? That's exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned your ego.

And theres no need for you to rehash things with watawata and rile stuff up again with the Spain comment.

 

[Jaylan]

Actually I didn't view watawata's comment that way at all. Youre the one who seems stuck on getting into it with others here. And I mentioned ego because yours is obvious in most of your posts.

And nah, I have no response to your earlier post. Ill save posts for others in the thread. I already have my opinion on the final and said it doesn't require in-depth analysis.

 

[Jaylan]

 

[Bokanovsky]

hahaha that's pretty funny coming from a guy like you, especially considering this comment of yours to another poster in a currently ongoing thread:

LOL @ Gaylan claiming to have matured and gained experience!

 

[Jaylan]

LOL @ Gaylan claiming to have matured and gained experience!

You came to the World Cup thread just to dik ride and troll? How pathetic lol. What a tool haha.

 

[VikingKing]

You came to the World Cup thread just to dik ride and troll? How pathetic lol. What a tool haha.

gaylan, you don't know dog sh!t about soccer. You couldn't even find your own a$$hole with a flashlight, and a mirror during the day time. What makes you think you could understand the basics of soccer.

 

[Bokanovsky]

You came to the World Cup thread just to dik ride and troll? How pathetic lol. What a tool haha.

LOL @ Gaylan neg repping me. Why do you even bother, your neg rep power is smaller than your d!ck! Now go cry to your mommy, Mr. "Mature and Experienced" DJ. lol

 

[Jaylan]

obvious trolls are obvious

 

[Watawata]

Yes, they won but they didnt destroy the opposite teams.

 

[Jaylan]

Looking at these stats, and considering that Messi disappeared in the knockout stages of the World Cup, why in the world was he awarded the Golden Ball?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsdKAGZCcAA__FI.jpg

Muller or James should have won. They definitely played better and carried their teams more. And hell, Muller's team actually won the World Cup. Seems like the committee in FIFA wanted to give Messi a consolation prize.

And people say theres no Messi favoritism in FIFA? This is more obvious now than it was when he didnt really deserve that Ballon D'or a few years back over Sneijder, Xavi, and Iniesta. In 2010, Sneijder had a fantastic season (treble winner) and got to the final of the world cup but Messi was given still Ballon d'or. But we already discussed that. I dunno how one disappears the last 3 games of the tournament and receives the golden ball.

 

[Jaylan]

your thinking of the golden boot. and james did get it

No Im thinking of the Golden Ball. Messi was not the best player in the tournament. He disappeared for 3 games. I think Muller should have gotten that award. He had the running stats, goals, assists, and the championship to back it up. I dunno how Messi wins this award. Especially with the criticism I saw him getting for not defending and having lower running distances in the previous game or two.

 

[Jaylan]

the golden ball is not based on the best player in the tournament. its a vote from coaches and captains of clubs and teams based on performance of the PRIOR year. the decision was made long before the final

What are you talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_awards#Golden_Ball

The Golden Ball award is presented to the best player at each FIFA World Cup finals, with a shortlist drawn up by the FIFA technical committee and the winner voted for by representatives of the media. Those who finish as runners-up in the vote receive the Silver Ball and Bronze Ball awards as the second and third most outstanding players in the tournament respectively.

 

[DJFear]

Congrats to Germany! They were the most consistent and best team of the tournament. Worthy champions.
Overall it was a really exciting and fun world cup to watch. Kinda sad its over now and it will be another 4 long years until next one in Russia of all places!

P.S: James should have been given the golden ball but predictably they went with the popular choice of Messi.

P.P.S : Obrigado Brasil.

 

[DJFear]

First let me clear out why James didn't deserve to win top player of the tournament: Colombia was in an easy group, consisting of Japan, Greece, and Ivory Coast. It was probably the single easiest group in world cup history. They then beat an equally crappy Uruguay, which not only sucked by also was lacking their top player, Luis Suarez, due to suspension over that biting incident. The first team of modest strength that the Colombians played - Brazil - and they choked.

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Ummm yeah because having Nigeria, Bosnia and Iran in your group must be so impossibly tough Granted Messi was the reason they won those games but lets not pretend like those teams are world beaters. When you need a moment of magic to barely beat Iran thats not exactly impressive. Messi also didnt do much in knock out stages and when he had a golden chance to put Arg ahead in the final, he missed.
Overall Messi still had a good tournament but James was more deserving.

 

[VikingKing]

No Im thinking of the Golden Ball. Messi was not the best player in the tournament. He disappeared for 3 games. I think Muller should have gotten that award. He had the running stats, goals, assists, and the championship to back it up. I dunno how Messi wins this award. Especially with the criticism I saw him getting for not defending and having lower running distances in the previous game or two.

Jaylan, had a question for you. How do you make "lean" ?

 

[Jaylan]

Messi fans all over the web, as well as Maradona agree Messi didnt deserve it. And Maradona is as big as Messi fans get. Nevermind all the pundits and analysts talking about the World Cup who felt others deserved it more and played better than Messi.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/wo...-messi-didnt-deserve-golden-ball?ICID=HP_BN_6

I agree with Maradona. Its marketing. Messi's biggest sponsor is Adidas, and they also sponsor FIFA with the balls, awards, and shoes players wear. Not surprising tbh. I also think Argentina's most valuable player was Mascherano. Without his defense, Argentina's defense gets smashed in a couple games. He made a lot of good interceptions and tackles in or around the box. Plus his jockeying was superb.

Some people even think awarding Messi the golden ball, is FIFA trying to start a case for giving Messi the next Ballon D'or. But tbh, I see Ronaldo getting it again. Copa Del Rey, Pichichi, Golden Boot, UCL title, UCL goal record...and basically leading his team to La Decima throughout the season all outweigh Messi's trophyless season and Golden Ball. Messi had a good group stage, but a forgettable knockout phase of the World Cup. I really do think leading Madrid to their 10th Champions league title, while also breaking the goal record, has won CR7 the upcoming Ballon Dor...so hopefully people are wrong about FIFA trying to set Messi up for the award.

Oh wells. Thats all I have to really add to this thread. Ima continue my soccer talk on proper soccer forums for now. Maybe we can get another thread going when the season gets started again.