workout for singers

[catworks]

Hi, new to this forum and site, just got into the bodybuilding idea and just learning as much as i can. Really wanna get down to losing weight and getting lean muscle. 20 male here. currently my weight is around 195 and 5 ft 10, body fat is 19%.

Goal is to cut to around 155 pounds.So i'm looking at an cutting programme. i'm guessing i should not train to become big, should go for the tonned look like brad pitt and keep on maintaining it.

Reason is i'm a singer doing gigs for clubs and pubs and i thinking about what effect weight training will bring. From what I read, strenous workouts with free weights or natilus(powerlfiting, bodybuilding) don't benfit the voice and that The main problem with muscle conditioning exercises (like sit ups, crunches) is the possibility of tension in the neck and shoulders and to Avoid any exercises that encourage or lead to shallow breathing, neck or shoulder tension.

So it is recommend that the best programme i should do is toning or circuit trainig with smaller weights and mutiple reps to keep the body flexible and increase aerobic capcaity while reducing pressure against larynx and the workout is balanced between all muslce groups.

Am i right to go with this plan? I found one pretty good toning article by BIG RED, http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigfem.htm but it was for female, haha, not sure it would work for me? If not, Anyone can recommend one? Thanks for reading and looking forward to advice from the more experienced and knowledgable posters.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

I do a lot of weight training but even more cardio, my voice has never soudned great but this is not to do wiht the excersize i do. I do not take shallow breaths, it comes from my stomach as it should.

The stuff here will help you body, if you are concerned aobut your voice, it would be a good idea to get specialist advice, i dont think you will find what you are looking for here.

 

[brucevangeorge]

20 male here. currently my weight is around 195 and 5 ft 10, body fat is 19%.

Goal is to cut to around 155 pounds

Starvation will pretty much do that for you. Don't worry about cutting. Just don't eat for the next three weeks. (No WATER EITHER. Pansy)

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

Starvation will pretty much do that for you. Don't worry about cutting. Just don't eat for the next three weeks. (No WATER EITHER. Pansy)

Bruce, i hope you are jokeing.

 

[catworks]

check_mate_kid_uk I do a lot of weight training but even more cardio, my voice has never soudned great but this is not to do wiht the excersize i do. I do not take shallow breaths, it comes from my stomach as it should.

The stuff here will help you body, if you are concerned aobut your voice, it would be a good idea to get specialist advice, i dont think you will find what you are looking for here.

the stuff i mentioned below is all from books about vocalist.

From what I read, strenous workouts with free weights or natilus(powerlfiting, bodybuilding) don't benfit the voice and that The main problem with muscle conditioning exercises (like sit ups, crunches) is the possibility of tension in the neck and shoulders and to Avoid any exercises that encourage or lead to shallow breathing, neck or shoulder tension.

So it is recommend that the best programme i should do is toning or circuit trainig with smaller weights and mutiple reps to keep the body flexible and increase aerobic capcaity while reducing pressure against larynx and the workout is balanced between all muslce groups.

Am i right to go with this plan? I found one pretty good toning article by BIG RED, http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigfem.htm but it was for female, haha, not sure it would work for me? If not, Anyone can recommend one? Thanks for reading and looking forward to advice from the more experienced and knowledgable posters.

what i want to know is a good toning programme, was wondering the one BY BIG RED was workable, since he had the female in mind when he wrote that.

 

[brucevangeorge]

Bruce, i hope you are jokeing.

I was joking, but if he wants to be 155lb... why cut?

That's like me saying... I want to cut down to 110lbs. Seriously now.

 

[brucevangeorge]

check_mate_kid_uk I do a lot of weight training but even more cardio, my voice has never soudned great but this is not to do wiht the excersize i do. I do not take shallow breaths, it comes from my stomach as it should.

The stuff here will help you body, if you are concerned aobut your voice, it would be a good idea to get specialist advice, i dont think you will find what you are looking for here.

the stuff i mentioned below is all from books about vocalist.

From what I read, strenous workouts with free weights or natilus(powerlfiting, bodybuilding) don't benfit the voice and that The main problem with muscle conditioning exercises (like sit ups, crunches) is the possibility of tension in the neck and shoulders and to Avoid any exercises that encourage or lead to shallow breathing, neck or shoulder tension.

So it is recommend that the best programme i should do is toning or circuit trainig with smaller weights and mutiple reps to keep the body flexible and increase aerobic capcaity while reducing pressure against larynx and the workout is balanced between all muslce groups.

Am i right to go with this plan? I found one pretty good toning article by BIG RED, http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigfem.htm but it was for female, haha, not sure it would work for me? If not, Anyone can recommend one? Thanks for reading and looking forward to advice from the more experienced and knowledgable posters.

what i want to know is a good toning programme, was wondering the one BY BIG RED was workable, since he had the female in mind when he wrote that.

Firstly, the difference between male and female programs is that the female ones generally have more reps with lower weight and less sets... so overall slightly less intensity.

Working out for singers? Are you serious? What are we going to be seeing next.. specialized prgrams for truck drivers? Janitors? The talkshow host high intensity training regime?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Weight training is weight training, doesn't matter what. You want to lift weights? Go ahead. Don't want to because it "makes your neck stiff" and your "breathing shallow"? Don't. Go do some yoga or something.

But at least realize that bodybuilders and people who train with weights are the most flexible people of all. Even without stretching exercises. Now I don't know about shallow breathing, that sounds made up to me...

Where did you get these reccomendations from? A singer? It was from someone who has no idea about training at all, wasn't it?

That's like me asking for nutritional advice from a guy working the cash register at burger king. Or asking a gardener what I should do to the carbouretor in my car.

And please note the buzz words like "possibility". That doesn't mean anything.


LOL. You're jokes dude.

 

[brucevangeorge]

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[MrS]

155 lbs isn't that little, I'm 150 and am not that skinny, 5"10.

 

[brucevangeorge]

155 lbs isn't that little, I'm 150 and am not that skinny, 5"10.

Ok, here's what you do: Take a picure of yourself. Front, side, back. And then look at it. You are skinny, you just don't know it. Mirrors lie.

 

[SAYNO]

I tell you what works for me is this:


Tae-bo workout, plus Speech-Level voice training program. It works like a charm!


SN'

 

[catworks]

First of all, your commenst amuse me a little, because obviously you have very little idea about singing and the system behind it. Secondly, i didn't get this info from some dude who nv saw a gym before,cause that would make no sense. It's from a pretty well known and respected author/vocal teacher who has some great advice on diet and exercise and general lifestyle for singers.

There's a good reason why singers should have specalised workout, Because
heavy lifting places a great stress aginst the vocal folds. One of the function of the larynx is to create pressure in the upper body for lifting, pushing and climbing. As you tense yours abs to lift, the false folds close tight and compress the air inside the lung to make your body rigid.

Holding your breath against an abs push is a similiar sensation to singing, but not the same action, thus the problem occurs when the body confuse the feelings and you hold your breath when singing, which casuses alot of problems.

Personally I believe you can never find a guy who is as bulk up as Arnold and he sings great,? I don't think so, but hey that is just my personal view, i never really ask bodybuilders to sing. No offence mate, but not everybody(no punt intended) wants to get big and look like the rock , some of us prefer the leaner look.

 

[Brian20o2]

Hmmm. Im not to sure about the whole tension thing. I sing to (in chior and am thinking about pursuing it) The only thing I would be concerned about it the increses in testosterone and other horomones affecting my voice... But I doubt that would happen anyways.

Holding your breath against an abs push is a similiar sensation to singing, but not the same action, thus the problem occurs when the body confuse the feelings and you hold your breath when singing, which casuses alot of problems.

I would say just focus on the movments and make sure that you dont get them mixed up. Simple as that. Oh and learn to relax your muscles. Somtimes I try and get massage pre-singing practice from a hottie (girls know how to use their hands ).

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

Catworks i just realised what you want to do and i think you are mixed up. You talk aobut cutting and how doing weights will damage your voice. But cutting does not need to involve weights at all.

If you want to use weights, then just dont go to an intensity that makes you tense up every muscle in your body.

 

[catworks]

yes, cutting has to involve weights because doing weight build muscles which in turn increase your metabolism and help you burn more calories which in turn cut down more body fats. Cutting ideally involves losing all fats and preserving or even building some lean muslce. I want to do a toning and circuit training routine. Because that is what was recommend for singers.

I found one pretty good toning article here http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigfem.htm but it was for female, haha, not sure it would work for me? IF not, anyone can recommend one.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

If you think you know it all why bother asking? Cardio boosts motabilism far far far better then weight lifting. You will not get good gains if you cut and lift weight so whilst it will tone you up it will hardly increase muscle mass or calorie requirments.

The only weight lifting you can do whilst cutting is doing it as an aerobic activity and anyway you are scared to lift heavy weights because of your voice so you will never gain much muscle at all.

once again, whilst cutting can involve weights, they will not help you one bit. You need cardio not weights.

I just love the way you ask a question, you then decided to tell me how its suposed to be done and you are infact completly mistaken.

 

[catworks]

If you think you know it all why bother asking? Cardio boosts motabilism far far far better then weight lifting. You will not get good gains if you cut and lift weight so whilst it will tone you up it will hardly increase muscle mass or calorie requirments.

hey, read my post again, i said lean muslce, with the main purpose being cutting so i gain just a little muslce, i'm happy, if not, i lost body fat. I already mentioned the word tone more than once i believe and you must be dumb if you missed it. CARDIO BOOST METABOLISM MORE THAN WEIGHT LIFTING? Dude, you must be on crack, do some research again.

Secondly, if weight lifting does not help cutting one bit, then why the **** issit the best
exercise for losing body fat? Do some research, weight training plus cardio helps cut more body fat than cardio alone, that's a fact that every bodybuilder knows.

The only weight lifting you can do whilst cutting is doing it as an aerobic activity and anyway you are scared to lift heavy weights because of your voice so you will never gain much muscle at all.

If it's aerobic, then it;s not weight lifting, so speak with your brain? Ir's anaerobic exercise. And if all cutting cycle people do only cardio, they can kiss all their muscle goodbye because the weight they lose will be more muslce than body fats, understand?

once again, whilst cutting can involve weights, they will not help you one bit. You need cardio not weights.

Yap, that sure sums up the whole thing Einstein. And you just won the prize for stupid statement of the year.


And i'm not cutting cardio out, i don;t know where u got that from? I'll be doing 3 cardio and 3 weight lifting per week dumbass.

 

[brucevangeorge]

First of all, your commenst amuse me a little, because obviously you have very little idea about singing and the system behind it. Secondly, i didn't get this info from some dude who nv saw a gym before,cause that would make no sense. It's from a pretty well known and respected author/vocal teacher who has some great advice on diet and exercise and general lifestyle for singers.

There's a good reason why singers should have specalised workout, Because
heavy lifting places a great stress aginst the vocal folds. One of the function of the larynx is to create pressure in the upper body for lifting, pushing and climbing. As you tense yours abs to lift, the false folds close tight and compress the air inside the lung to make your body rigid.

Holding your breath against an abs push is a similiar sensation to singing, but not the same action, thus the problem occurs when the body confuse the feelings and you hold your breath when singing, which casuses alot of problems.

Personally I believe you can never find a guy who is as bulk up as Arnold and he sings great,? I don't think so, but hey that is just my personal view, i never really ask bodybuilders to sing. No offence mate, but not everybody(no punt intended) wants to get big and look like the rock , some of us prefer the leaner look.

Well you don't have to do a freaking 1RM... just do a regular workout with weights. You don't have to train for super muscle mass like the pros.

And you say that you wan't to cut but you don't want to use weights cause it will "put pressure on the larynx"

HAHAHAHAHA

Then you go and say that you HAVE to use weights to cut.

I think the only solution here is starvation for 3 weeks. Remember: NO WATER.

 

[brucevangeorge]

If you think you know it all why bother asking? Cardio boosts motabilism far far far better then weight lifting. You will not get good gains if you cut and lift weight so whilst it will tone you up it will hardly increase muscle mass or calorie requirments.

The only weight lifting you can do whilst cutting is doing it as an aerobic activity and anyway you are scared to lift heavy weights because of your voice so you will never gain much muscle at all.

once again, whilst cutting can involve weights, they will not help you one bit. You need cardio not weights.

I just love the way you ask a question, you then decided to tell me how its suposed to be done and you are infact completly mistaken.

Exactly! (although wheightlifting boosts metabolism way more... you know... all those calories are used for muscle repai/building)

He's simply wanting someone to confirm what he is thinking so he can go ahead and do it. Well, you know what? I think we should be telling him exactly what he wants to hear. He is going to do it anyway, he's not here for advice.


Dude, do exactly what you are thinking right now. I can't wait until you come back with

"OMG!!! OMG!!! It didn't work guys! What do I do? Do I follow the "volcalist's advice" again? Oh, ok, I'm going to go follow the vocalist's advice again"

Find your own solution.

 

[SAYNO]

Exactly! (although wheightlifting boosts metabolism way more... you know... all those calories are used for muscle repai/building)

He's simply wanting someone to confirm what he is thinking so he can go ahead and do it. Well, you know what? I think we should be telling him exactly what he wants to hear. He is going to do it anyway, he's not here for advice.


Dude, do exactly what you are thinking right now. I can't wait until you come back with

"OMG!!! OMG!!! It didn't work guys! What do I do? Do I follow the "volcalist's advice" again? Oh, ok, I'm going to go follow the vocalist's advice again"

Find your own solution.