Working out and the game

[The Muscle Guy]

Women do the choosing.

Does that sound familiar? Well it should, they are the words of Player Supreme.

Whether you like it or not, women do the choosing. If you think men do the choosing, good for you, just ignore my post.

So now that we have established that women do the choosing, how do we get women to choose us?

Women have certain criteria for selecting a mate: height, race, build, social status, and wealth.

Race and height you are born with and can do nothing to change. However, you can change your build and other factors.

Game? Game gets you the women that are attracted to you, the women that are choosing you. No amount of game will get a woman that has ZERO ATTRACTION for you.

Changing your build will have a dramatic impact in the amount of women choosing you.

If you are not working out, now is the time to start. All the openers and stories in the world won't help you get women.

1. Get a gym membership.
2. Get as much info as possible.
3. Use your gym membership on regular basis.
4. Ask for help if you need it.

Having a muscular, defined body will attract many women. Learning game will seal the deal.

 

[scrouds]

Math.

The choosing? That's an AND() statement. You have to both choose either other before anything happens. Yes women choose. Yes men choose. They both choose.

Attraction is multiplication. Your game is a multiplier that initially works on base attraction. Initial base attraction is based on looks and social pressures. In a woman's eyes if you start with zero, no multiplication will help.

That being said, and assuming looks are logarthrimic, then we can say bumping your value up 1 point on a 10 point scale makes it 10 times easier to game the same chick, or lets you game girls requiring more "points"

We can also say there is a baseline point at which a woman will actively select you. That is based on social proof and looks. Increase that (again with the log scale) and you will have more woman approach you.

This is all in the midranges. The math gets funny when either you or her are very good looking.

 

[WhtRbt]

I am scrawny. I pull hotties. Working out is not the key. Not that you shouldn't work out.

 

[SleepyRangerMedic82D]

I think generally, most women prefer a guy who is in good shape.. It kinda fluctuates with what is "IN" in the media and with celebs, but I think for most part the "hot guy", is in good shape.. or at least looks like it..

I agree with Muscle guy that it is important, but on other side, some women genuinely do not like guys with muscles

 

[FutureSpartan]

I agree that every DJ should lift weights to increase testosterone and overall well-being

As far as attraction goes, the ideal build is lean with broad shoulders/small waist. The closer you can get to this...the better your chances.

Being jacked is okay, but its not necessary for the general female population.
If you find a girl really attractive, then her having breast implants (like muscles) is only a bonus. It goes the other way also. She won't find you any less attractive for not being Mr. Olympia, so don't worry too much about it.

Lean and muscular is the way to go

 

[marinetti]

yeah Muscle, your entire post is the equivalent of saying "You should eat healthy because your eating SUCKS" or "You should date hot girls cause hot girls are AWESOME"

It's a piece of obvious advice wrapped in deprecation.

 

[backbreaker]

Rollo Said it best. all the game in the world doesn't make you look any better with your shirt off.



Any "DJ" that doesn't hit the gym, and probably some that do, becuase I take weights and nutrition seriously, I'm already 5 steps ahead.

you really have no idea.... get to about 10% and your abs start showing and you have an actual chest and sholders and women and you wear a short sleeve shirt and you actually fill up the entire thing,a nd you dont' have to suck your stomach in when a woman walks by.

the best way I can describe it.. becuase I have the unique distinction of being extremely skinny (135), overweight (240) and extremely in shape (175lb, 8% body fat)... it's like being let into a secret club.

Ever see the movie life? it's like the boom boom room. And I have always been an handsom / cute guy. unless I was fat, I never had a problem attracting women. But when I got really in shape, women just dont' know how to act. america is so damn out of shape and so big that you are a breach of fresh air.
I had a woman today, who I know, and she knows i have a GF (and luckly my GF wasn't there).. I had on a shirt I had never worn before and i didn't completely pull off the tag.. it still had the little plastic thing on it on the shirt sleeve.

So she sees me and pulls it off...with her teeth. Then says I have to get the inside part, so pulls up my shirt, rubs her hand up my stomach, then takes her sweet time pulling the tag off my shirt.. mind you i'm a grown ass man not like I couldnt' do it myself. All while looking at me and smiling. You think she wants to fvck me? And this is everyday. Without trying.

Not only that, I've been dating my GF for about 3 years and she still basically rapes me.


There is not a situtation where having fat on your body looks better than having muscle on your body. It just isn't.

And women just like men don't prefer fat guys. they settle becuase of being hopeless or having low self esteem.

The guy with no goals, sits around and eats chips all day, doesn't prefer big boned women.. he dates the big woman and rationalizes it because he has found what he can succeed with in life woman wise. you think if Hedi Klum tried to give him a BJ he would tell her she's too skinny?

The same guys that prefer bigger woman go gaga over that 5'9 115 pound C cup bombshell. everyone does.
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whatever, keep not working out and putting on makeup and whatever it is you do. NOt only that, working out is fvcking fun.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

da

Recently , i made a thread on why working out will increase your chances with women. Here it is

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160761

If you wanna be a REAL MAN all womans strive for , you should look like a man.

 

[#41]

NOt only that, working out is fvcking fun.

Maybe for you. For me, working out is exhausting, mind-numbingly dull, and something I'd stop doing in an instant if it wasn't necessary to stay healthy.

There are only so many hours in the day, and if there was a way to stay fit without losing 1-2 hours of my life lifting heavy iron plates into the air, I would do it in a heartbeat.

Honestly don't see how anyone can call the gym "fun."

 

[Warrior74]

Real Talk. Good post. Time to get my fat ass back in the gym. I've been slacking for some time.

 

[blueline]

Working out can make a huge impact, but it seems to be only one variable of an equation with many variables. I know several dudes who don't really workout with sharp jaws and wide faces (you know, really masculine looking) that can still bag most girls. I used to work out a lot at one point (I didn't have a bodybuilder six pack, but my abs were visible and I could squat like 270 5x5 [which isn't very much as I'm sure somebody will point out, haha]), but I completely lacked any social awareness or game. I can think of at least a few girls that were giving me some signals during that year and a half that I seriously lifted weights for, and I completely ignored said signals because I didn't know what to look for at all. In addition, I had the conversational game analogue of a deer being stuck in the headlights, so this completely negated all of my efforts in the gym.

In the last year, I've barely worked out up until the last few weeks, and I've had much more success (relatively speaking, at least) because I've become more aware of what signals to look for, actually attempted to seek girls out instead of wait for them to come to me, I'm much more conversationally adept with women, and I've started to work on things like my posture and eye contact.

On the other hand, I can think of at least a few girls who may have been a bit more receptive to my advances had I maintained my muscle weight instead of letting it all wither away. So, I'm back to working out again, since it's a very significant part of the EQ.

 

[Kal0051]

everyone should exercise (I prefer cross training over a weight lifting heavy workout), not to get women but to be healthy. I plan to live a long time and I know that the only way to do that is to exercise and eat healthy. Getting women attracted to me is just a nice side effect, not a goal.

 

[Furyguy]

Backbreaker sick post dude. Way to speak from experience and tell us how it is, I wish there were more guys around to back up the "get ripped" method.

Honestly don't see how anyone can call the gym "fun."

I live for the gym dude. When it's a lifting day I look forward to getting in there and killing myself, and on off-days I'm just thinking about the next day that I get to go lift. Seriously it is like a ****ing drug. If I feel like **** all day, I go lift and then I feel good again. If I'm thinking too hard about some bull****, I go lift for 90 minutes any my head clears. And then I just can't wait to get back in and get my next hit. Honestly I'm not even exaggerating here.

Whatever, I could elaborate much more on this but that's a thread for another day I think. Bottom line is working out is ****ing addicting once you really get ****ing serious about it.

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

Working out rules. It's another way we men make ourselves uncomfortable in the name of improving.

 

[Irs88]

women don't do the choosing. we do. They get all pretty and dressed up and we choose which girls to approach. They merely have to WAIT for us to come.

If you are alpha and all that crap, then you choose who to talk to and who is not worthy to talk to.

The moment you give any important power to women(like choosing), is the moment you start becoming less of a man.

 

[backbreaker]

i have a little bit of free time i'll expand

1. you shoud work out becuase generally you want to be as healthy as possible. Being healthy kicks ass. Knowing that I can bodyslam this guy that is 220 with relaitive ease if he wants to buck up when I'm 40 pounds lighter than he is is a good feeling. knowing I can fck the sh!t out of my GF all night long and still go is a good feelin...for her as well lol.

Seeing other people who knew you wen you were basically fat and look at you and o motovit them to half ass try to do something different, and actually be able to help them, is a very good feeling.


my little sister was overweight last year. she saw her big brother in shape an now she goes to the gym with her mom everyday(who is also a gym rat) so she can look like her brother and i'll be dmned if she's not overweight anymore. watches what she eats and she's 9.

Honesly getting chicks is about the 4th reason I decided to get in shape. my family has a high rate of high blood sugar, I was a fat fvck and knew I could do better and I got tired of carrying around the extra weight. I love nice clothes, that fit, you can't 'dress' when your gut is half foot out from your stomach. yu look bloated all the time. it sucks ass.

2. yes it honestly sucked at first. it really did. the soreness. the being bored. but you keep at it you find ways to hve fun.

first of all, pushing yourself is extremely fun. you an't possibly be bored if ou are pushing yourself. bored doesn't enter into your mind when you are struggling to get that last rep and the bar just wont' go up anymore and you are wondering if you are going to choke yourself or if you can somehow get the bar back up to the rack.

going to the gym with a set goal and actually doing everything on it, does nothing but build confidence.

3. you open the door to a new type of woman. let's face it. this is a forum on how to get women. my GF... is 5'8, 120 soak and wet and besides her breats, even after a baby, has very little body fat on her. she is an outdoor / gym rat / sports type of woman. And she just is not attracted to men, who aren't in shape. alot of women are like that.

When I had game and was skinny but not musclar I could get skinny hot women but they woudln't have that athletic look to them. they would just be rail thin. I can't explain it but you know the difference. women whotake cae of them selves want a man who takes care of himself. WTF does a woman who does yoga for 4 hours a wek and eats pretty clean have in commonwith your rail thin potato chip eating ass?


And we aren't even talking about Djism. If I could just take the avg out of shape guy through a normal day of my life they would run to the gym an while I know i am athletic in shape I'm not a bodybuilder or anything. You cannot comprehend the differece, how much easie it is, not just women. people seem to respect you more.


KNOWING and my GF knowing it too, that if she left today I culd be knee deep in pvssy by the time I go to sleep.

the little ****. my normal day starts off with me waking up at 4:30, my GF makes breakast, I eat and head to the gym about 5:15, I do 2 hours or so worh of crdio (not necessary Im' just a cardiohlic), then do 2 sets of 5 exercvies at 80% max rep 5 days a week.

the woman to the left of me on the treadmill keeps peeping at me and glancing over at the monitor on the treadmill, I act like I don' t notice her.

as everyone or most everyon here knows I'm a recovering addict and I go to a meeting in the morning usualy from 9am to 11am, 2 or so days a week. I go today, I'm always beat after a good orkout so I am lying my head down and this girl come in and instad of saying hi just starts rubbing her hands on my neck, just to say hi. There is a little 21 year old cutie in there who is asking me about her diet.. cute a a button. keeps looking at me and smiling. while the other girl who was rubbing on my neck keeps playing accidetnal footsie with me. we go fora walk across the street to stabucks and she tells me I have sexy legs. All whil another girl who has told me she wanted to suck me off walks in and is sitting thre staring at me the entire meeting. I can take any of the three at anytime I chose.

I go to barnes and noble and this older woman just comes up to me and starts talking to me. se's no bad looking just too old. andshe like won't leave. she keeps finding excuses to talk to me. ficking her hair and playing with her sandles. she wants the ****.

You know I've been dating my GF since June of 06 and I can count on one hand he mount of times I 've had to ASK for sex? We still fvck like rabbits. there are times I still alk around withouta shirt on in the hous and she gropes me like it's our first date.

that has nothing to do with game, I haven't opened my mouth. they all just want to jump my bones just because they thnk I'm hot.



Why not take every advantage you have? Why make he ame harder by being lazy?

 

[TheSplat]

Amen guys. Working out is a game changer. Straight up. Ask any ripped guy out there, he'll tell u in a heartbeat. It just makes things so much....easier.

 

[speakeasy]

Or you could just take the easy way...http://www.bodyimplants.com/

Seriously though, it seems like anytime I've asked a girl if she likes muscular guys, they almost universally say no. Now maybe when they think "muscular" they are envisioning one of those freaks you see at powerlifting championships, rather than that Calvin Klein poster body.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

Or you could just take the easy way...http://www.bodyimplants.com/

Woww , this sh1t sucks.
You can get this kind of biceps , triceps and pecs for about 3 months on gym.
Why put silicone in when you can get it naturally ?
I fvcking hate people who have no motivation to do it for themselves.

 

[JCballin88]

I started to taking lifting more seriously since last summer. Since then I've gained about 20 lbs and people have been commenting on how much more muscular I look. Now I'm sitting at about 5'11", 195.

The best part was when I had a physical a couple months ago and the doctor, peering over his stupid charts, was like "well you know if you could scale back to the mid-180's, that'd be just about right for ya." Then later I took my shirt off and he was like "well you're looking pretty good!"