working on canned stuff... need suggestions.

[Socialreject]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out with some of your conversation skills. I'm working on putting together some canned stuff that i'm gonna use to get quick closes for time pressed situations. I need to move from whatever topic (fluff) i'm being opened, or opening with into number/date closing.

What i'm trying to do here is create some handles that are going to help me out to get the deal closed really fast. Short introduction, quick hook and rapport and then deepening/eliciting values... this is where i'm having trouble. I'm usually pretty good at generating situational stuff on the fly, but i still get stranded once in a while.

I could just go for the 'what do you like to do for fun?' but it's cheesy and generic, i need something better to elicit values and move into closing. It's got to be non threatning and covert ops style... i don't want them to feel a number close coming this early in the convo. I just want to deepen the conversation a bit here, without spooking them or putting any kind of pressure... which imho, the generic ways for eliciting values does.

I'm not looking for a full out routine here, that's not what i'm doing. I'm just creating a few memory helpers for when i get stranded and stuck in rapport because sometimes i'm having trouble moving out of this, especially when i'm pressed for time.

I don't like flat out hitting and stuff that's obviously a come on, that's not my style so those kind of lines are useless to me. Once i can get past initial rapport i'm fine...

So help me over this bump!

 

[IsiMan84]

That's just it, you can't really 'get' conversation skills from somebody. The canned lines will just hurt you more because more often than not she's going to say something you aren't ready for. It's just something you learn from experience. And what's wrong with an "obvious come-on" with a little C&F sprinkled on it?

 

[Socialreject]

I'm not sure IsiMan...

I can't do the c&f 'right'... i always end up coming off arrogant. I think my personality is already to 'loud' (not as in annoying and in your face) to tackle c&f.

I realize you can't 'get' conversationskills from anyone...

Like i said, i do alright generally and i'm mostly 100% spontanious. But i'm only good in certain situations. And one fo the situation i'm not good in is when i'm strapped for time. I find i have to move so fast that i am blatantly obvious and coming on very strong. While some women go for that, a lot feel spooked as well.

City girls seem to be more open to that kind of stuff... but the countrygirls out here get spooked pretty easily and they need a much more subtle approach.

So the goal is to make non threatning conversation, get them into a position where i can game them after they've gotten comfortable enough around me not to view me as a sexual predator

And like i said, my standard methods for eliciting values and moving into a close are a bit to 'aggresive' for these types of girls (game changes with the girl), so i'm just asking around, seeying if anyone has any less aggressive, more subtle ways to accomplish this.

I'm talking purely a cold approach here! I don't need anything that depends on already knowing the person.

 

[WesCottII]

Check out mysterys forum. mysterymethod.com.

 

[IsiMan84]

Well if you say you are pressed for time then why not use that as part of your exit strategy? Tell the girl you enjoyed talking to her but you have somewhere to be, and if she would like to continue the conversation another time to give you her number.

 

[blinkwatt]

Well if you say you are pressed for time then why not use that as part of your exit strategy? Tell the girl you enjoyed talking to her but you have somewhere to be, and if she would like to continue the conversation another time to give you her number.

BINGO,"Oh,hey by the way I'm (your name),(she will tell you hers),nice to meet you. Hey I hate to break it you but Iam pressed for time,but I would like to continue to talk to you mind if I call you?"
You be amazed at how many times I have used this one,works all the time.