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Master Don Juan
Hey guys,
I would really appreciate your input on my current work situation. Little back ground, currently in my second sales job since I graduated college where I'm doing very well. Consistently one of the top 3 producers in the company month after month with virtually no sales experience. I love the job, the product I sell and the sense of accomplishment from closing a deal.
HOWEVER, the ethics at this company is severely lacking. Not only do managers use fear tactics and fake job threats, they blantantly disrespect reps from time to time in front of the entire sales floor.
As I started working there I was somewhat naive to the whole process, but slowly have started to see the cookie crumble in front of my face. I've watched countless reps leave after having record months and didn't really understand why until today.
My direct sales manager and I became pretty close at one point. He's a brillant teacher and very good at what he does. On one hand he paints the picture that he goes to bat for me when I've been in question. Feeding me information that our VP told him regarding me and other people etc.
On the other hand he is a very inappropriate, HR nightmare in his behavior at and away from work. Just since I've known him he has:
-made strong sexual passes at two of our co-workers at happy hour, describing in detail what he would do to them sexually. One of the girl's mom's TRAINED HIM in sexual harrassment!!
-made another sexual pass at an account manager, who looked him in the face and told him "your creepy"
-constantly hugs the girl reps who make a sale and also hugs them when the arrive and leave in the morning.
-he was also fuvkin' a girl who recently got fired for not hitting her number and now he admitted that they are dating. He use to stay late and help us on appointments, ever since he's been dating this chick, he leaves right at 5 and uses the excuse of having to pick up his daugther. He never had to pick up his daugther 5x a week for the past 9 months....
Over the past few months I started to believe less and less of what he said, and realized that he was ulitmately a master at manipulation....duh he's a sales manager! Not to mention that he constantly treats me like $hit, I'm at 150% to my quota and he's yelling at me for "relaxing" for one day!!!
So this month we were holding a contest. The top two revenue producers for the first two weeks of the month, win an all expenses paid trip to an incredible trade show next month. Well, I was in solid grasp of the number 2 slot the entire time and ended up having a killer week to solidify my grip on that spot. I walk into the office this morning and check the daily sales number MAGICALLY a girl who was in 5th suddenly was in the number 2 slot!
I look through the accounts sold list and see that he GAVE HER a $2,000 deal. I ask him about it professionally and politely and he admits that he GAVE HER the deal because she was waaaaaaaaaaay behind her number and she has NEVER not hit her number. Mind you she has only been there for 4.5 months. Now this girl is a great worker and took on added responsiblity this month with helping to train some new employees.
However how convienent of him to GIVE HER the deal on the last day of the contest! I ask him about all this and he BLATANTLY LIES to my face!!! Saying:
-oh I didn't even know about the contest!! (That's bull**** we get an email EVERYDAY from our marketing department with the updated standings
I ask him why did he decide to give the deal to her now and not at the end of the month? He stuttered and avoids eye contact and says, he wasn't even thinking about. She was pacing to her goal and we were just half way throught the month.
He then tells me it was a direct order from our CEO! LOL, what a crock of $hit. When I call him on that, he back tracks and says, "ummm ummm... I decided to give her the deal, but our CEO wanted both the girls to go to the trade show."
He then like any sales manager tries to turn it around on me, by feeding me some bullshyt about our finance department giving us heat for reps who didn't perform. Get this, he says if a rep doesn't hit their quota for a month, it takes 3 months of them hitting their goal to make up for their cost to the company!! LOL.... I can't believe he thought I was that stupid to believe his lies.
He then tells me the trade shows aren't even that great, to try and talk me out of wanting to go. Hmmmm funny how he picked himself to go to the one in Hawaii in a couple months.....why go if they aren't worth it??
Okay, so I'll get to the point: My manager has completely violated my trust in him today. I suspected a lot of this before, but he is completely a chump to pu$$y and is a divorced, desperate guy. Willing to throw a top performing rep by the way side to make a girl happy.
He has constantly asked me for advice on gaming girls and always says "all the girls love you because your blessed with good looks." I definitely sense a strong bit of resentment from him, due to the female attention I get at work on top of all this $hit.
I understand office politcs exists everywhere, however to take the verbal abuse that I do, and consistently hit my number THEN get SHAFTED outta a contest I rightfully won?? That's just too much for me to want to even continue at a unethical SH-IT hole like this....
There's much more to his lies and abuse, but you guys get the bigger picture. I have plenty of other job offers, so finding a new job won't be hard, especially since I'm not commanding too high of a salary and primarily work on commission.
How would you react? And to those of you in sales.......have you encountered a situation like this???
PIMP
I would really appreciate your input on my current work situation. Little back ground, currently in my second sales job since I graduated college where I'm doing very well. Consistently one of the top 3 producers in the company month after month with virtually no sales experience. I love the job, the product I sell and the sense of accomplishment from closing a deal.
HOWEVER, the ethics at this company is severely lacking. Not only do managers use fear tactics and fake job threats, they blantantly disrespect reps from time to time in front of the entire sales floor.
As I started working there I was somewhat naive to the whole process, but slowly have started to see the cookie crumble in front of my face. I've watched countless reps leave after having record months and didn't really understand why until today.
My direct sales manager and I became pretty close at one point. He's a brillant teacher and very good at what he does. On one hand he paints the picture that he goes to bat for me when I've been in question. Feeding me information that our VP told him regarding me and other people etc.
On the other hand he is a very inappropriate, HR nightmare in his behavior at and away from work. Just since I've known him he has:
-made strong sexual passes at two of our co-workers at happy hour, describing in detail what he would do to them sexually. One of the girl's mom's TRAINED HIM in sexual harrassment!!
-made another sexual pass at an account manager, who looked him in the face and told him "your creepy"
-constantly hugs the girl reps who make a sale and also hugs them when the arrive and leave in the morning.
-he was also fuvkin' a girl who recently got fired for not hitting her number and now he admitted that they are dating. He use to stay late and help us on appointments, ever since he's been dating this chick, he leaves right at 5 and uses the excuse of having to pick up his daugther. He never had to pick up his daugther 5x a week for the past 9 months....
Over the past few months I started to believe less and less of what he said, and realized that he was ulitmately a master at manipulation....duh he's a sales manager! Not to mention that he constantly treats me like $hit, I'm at 150% to my quota and he's yelling at me for "relaxing" for one day!!!
So this month we were holding a contest. The top two revenue producers for the first two weeks of the month, win an all expenses paid trip to an incredible trade show next month. Well, I was in solid grasp of the number 2 slot the entire time and ended up having a killer week to solidify my grip on that spot. I walk into the office this morning and check the daily sales number MAGICALLY a girl who was in 5th suddenly was in the number 2 slot!
I look through the accounts sold list and see that he GAVE HER a $2,000 deal. I ask him about it professionally and politely and he admits that he GAVE HER the deal because she was waaaaaaaaaaay behind her number and she has NEVER not hit her number. Mind you she has only been there for 4.5 months. Now this girl is a great worker and took on added responsiblity this month with helping to train some new employees.
However how convienent of him to GIVE HER the deal on the last day of the contest! I ask him about all this and he BLATANTLY LIES to my face!!! Saying:
-oh I didn't even know about the contest!! (That's bull**** we get an email EVERYDAY from our marketing department with the updated standings
I ask him why did he decide to give the deal to her now and not at the end of the month? He stuttered and avoids eye contact and says, he wasn't even thinking about. She was pacing to her goal and we were just half way throught the month.
He then tells me it was a direct order from our CEO! LOL, what a crock of $hit. When I call him on that, he back tracks and says, "ummm ummm... I decided to give her the deal, but our CEO wanted both the girls to go to the trade show."
He then like any sales manager tries to turn it around on me, by feeding me some bullshyt about our finance department giving us heat for reps who didn't perform. Get this, he says if a rep doesn't hit their quota for a month, it takes 3 months of them hitting their goal to make up for their cost to the company!! LOL.... I can't believe he thought I was that stupid to believe his lies.
He then tells me the trade shows aren't even that great, to try and talk me out of wanting to go. Hmmmm funny how he picked himself to go to the one in Hawaii in a couple months.....why go if they aren't worth it??
Okay, so I'll get to the point: My manager has completely violated my trust in him today. I suspected a lot of this before, but he is completely a chump to pu$$y and is a divorced, desperate guy. Willing to throw a top performing rep by the way side to make a girl happy.
He has constantly asked me for advice on gaming girls and always says "all the girls love you because your blessed with good looks." I definitely sense a strong bit of resentment from him, due to the female attention I get at work on top of all this $hit.
I understand office politcs exists everywhere, however to take the verbal abuse that I do, and consistently hit my number THEN get SHAFTED outta a contest I rightfully won?? That's just too much for me to want to even continue at a unethical SH-IT hole like this....
There's much more to his lies and abuse, but you guys get the bigger picture. I have plenty of other job offers, so finding a new job won't be hard, especially since I'm not commanding too high of a salary and primarily work on commission.
How would you react? And to those of you in sales.......have you encountered a situation like this???
PIMP
