Women's appearance vs personality

Desdinova

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I am going to tell you something: the physical appearance of a woman DOES NOT determine how well she will treat you.

When most men looks at a woman, he will judge how "worthy" he is of dating her by her looks, especially if he has low confidence and self-esteem. If she is extremely pretty and sexy, he will shy away from her, thinking that he is not worthy, or that he isn't attractive enough to be with such a prize. He will settle for the "free T-shirt" instead of the "golden trophy".

He goes for the less attractive woman. After all, the less attractive woman should be THANKFUL to have a guy interested in her. The woman could be 400 lbs, has a face that looks like someone smashed with a sledgehammer, but she must have a nice personality!

The unattractive woman has somehow achieved the "nice personality" marking. How? By other women! Her female friends defend her unattractiveness with the "nice personality" bullcrap. This is where the trouble begins...

Women (attractive or non) don't necessarily get spoiled by their parents and relatives because she was a "little princess" when she was a child. They get spoiled by their AFC boyfriends. These guys buy them dinner, flowers and gifts just to get some pu55y. Unattractive women have also achieved the "easy lay" marking by men. Because of this, all women develope the "I have the pu55y so you'd better do what I say" attitude. To them, having the pu55y = having the power. The man should be greatful that she's offering it up.

What really gets me is AFCs go for these ugly chicks, and they hand over their ba11s on a silver platter to them! Christ, if you're going to let a woman treat you like garbage, make sure she's at least good looking!

Also, just because a chick is unattractive, it doesn't mean she has no baggage. She may have been sexually abused, have low self-esteem (because she's fat), she's lazy, and anything else you can think of.

No matter what the woman looks like, the way they work internally is THE SAME.

Unattractive women should be greatful that they have a man who is genuinely interested in them. They should treat these men well, because they've looked past the physical fvck ups, and have seen that they are great people. But THEY'RE NOT greatful. They have the pu55y, therefore, they have the POWER.

However, women can only gain the control if the man hands it over.

The bottom line is, if you hand your control and self-respect over to a woman (no matter what she looks like), she's going to use it to make your life fvcking miserable. She will make you feel and look one inch tall when she's mad at you. She will demand as much as she can from you, and you won't think twice about handing her whatever she wants, putting yourself in difficult situations to meet her demands.

Keep your self-respect and self-control. If you put these two into the hands of someone else, they will use them as a remote-control and destroy your life at your expense.
 

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so, all women are b*tches.

I knew it!
So what you're saying is.. we should burn them. burn them all!

I'm with you! they think they're so hot, now they really will be!
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
What really gets me is AFCs go for these ugly chicks, and they hand over their ba11s on a silver platter to them! Christ, if you're going to let a woman treat you like garbage, make sure she's at least good looking!
That's the thing, too many AFCs out there ruining it for everyone...typically in a club scene, you meet ugly women(ok..the non-hot ones) and even some them have that i'm-so-hot-you're-fortunate-i'm talking-to-you attitude....shouldn't it be the other way round?

And they don't care because there's always these desperate AFCs hanging around them willing to suck up their menstrual blood with a straw:confused:
 

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Is it true that the more powerful you are, the more she'll challenge you?
Is it true that as a man's pride, accomplishments, and independence increase, the more and harder the women in his life, and the rest of the world for that matter, will try to stop him?

Women may be the weaker sex, but they still want the Universe - you - to revolve around them. You may be her whole world, but in her mind, she's still it's center.

You can keep your self-respect and self-control and still end up with a b!tchy woman who will constantly try to take them from you.

Even if you're enough of a man to remain unaffected by her b!tching and grabs for power, I can't imagine that spending ANY amount of time with her would be worthwhile.
 
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Originally posted by Virtú
Is it true that the more powerful you are, the more she'll challenge you?
Is it true that as a man's pride, accomplishments, and independence increase, the more and harder the women in his life, and the rest of the world for that matter, will try to stop him?

Women may be the weaker sex, but they still want the Universe - you - to revolve around them. You may be her whole world, but in her mind, she's still it's center.

You can keep your self-respect and self-control and still end up with a b!tchy woman who will constantly try to take them from you.

Even if you're enough of a man to remain unaffected by her b!tching and grabs for power, I can't imagine that spending ANY amount of time with her would be worthwhile.
i've seen this with my buds
he accepts crap sh!t from her bc shes hot
she says " i don't like that ur in that mall, it's for rich ppl, don't even call me back"

its a fukin mall for god sake..

he laughs (they were talking by the fone), says that's bull**** and everything, and when they meet he says "wtf was that" and she falls, knowing she was *****ing
the problem lies in tha very fact that she keeps doing this crappy stuff, why? bc even him calling her on her bullsh!t, she knows he won't leave.. she still knows that the guy is too far away from leaving the relationship...

what is missing here is a altimatum from his part...
he's puss! wipped...
 

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Des! I enjoyed this tip, and I tend to agree with a lot of what you say (not just relegated to this post).

Originally posted by Desdinova
I am going to tell you something: the physical appearance of a woman DOES NOT determine how well she will treat you.
Nope, sure doesn't, although there are trends as to how a woman views herself. For example, lots of fatties have low self esteem. Lots of hot chicks have an over-bloated ego and an entitlement complex, thanks to AFCs, as you pointed out.


When most men looks at a woman, he will judge how "worthy" he is of dating her by her looks, especially if he has low confidence and self-esteem. If she is extremely pretty and sexy, he will shy away from her, thinking that he is not worthy, or that he isn't attractive enough to be with such a prize. He will settle for the "free T-shirt" instead of the "golden trophy".


Very accurate but I'd be careful with the "golden trophy" thing. Not a good frame. But if you're talking about how AFCs see things, then yah.



He goes for the less attractive woman. After all, the less attractive woman should be THANKFUL to have a guy interested in her. The woman could be 400 lbs, has a face that looks like someone smashed with a sledgehammer, but she must have a nice personality!


LOL... yeah man. My AFC friends feed me that nonsense all the time. "Dude, you need to stop going just for hot girls. Looks are not all that matter..."

And my AFC friends are right! However, the logical fallacy is that they are assuming that hot girls are *****es and UGs have good personalities... ironically it's often backwards!! While the UGs may be nice, they can also be incredibly needy and insecure, constantly asking you to re-affirm their worth (I know because I have had UGs persue me in the past...).


The unattractive woman has somehow achieved the "nice personality" marking. How? By other women! Her female friends defend her unattractiveness with the "nice personality" bullcrap. This is where the trouble begins...


Yeah man. For further evidence, check out an ugly girl's myspace account. Go to her pictures and she'll have comments from her hot friends saying sh!t like "You look really good in this picture" or "Your eyes are so nice." This baloney and the personality garbage go hand in hand. It's the hotties trying to make their less aesthetically pleasing friends feel better about themselves.

While I value girls' natural ability to nurture, I also value honesty and integrity. If I was a fat girl I'd want somebody to tell me "Hey, lets go play some softball" or "Yo, put down the spoon."

So anyways this leads a lot of ugly girls to demand as much as the hot ones simply because they get positive reinforcement from their friends and loser AFCs cut off their balls.
*sigh*


Women (attractive or non) don't necessarily get spoiled by their parents and relatives because she was a "little princess" when she was a child. They get spoiled by their AFC boyfriends. These guys buy them dinner, flowers and gifts just to get some pu55y. Unattractive women have also achieved the "easy lay" marking by men. Because of this, all women develope the "I have the pu55y so you'd better do what I say" attitude. To them, having the pu55y = having the power. The man should be greatful that she's offering it up.


Sad as this may seem, I am glad that things are this way, because AFCs have made it *that* much easier to stand out. The pussification of the western world's only bright spot is that darwinism is weeding out the sycophants.


What really gets me is AFCs go for these ugly chicks, and they hand over their ba11s on a silver platter to them! Christ, if you're going to let a woman treat you like garbage, make sure she's at least good looking!


Haha, I get what you're saying but NO MAN should be letting a woman treat him like garbage. But this goes without saying, and I'm sure that last part was just intended for comedic effect ;).

I honestly can't see how AFCs can settle for some of the beasts I see roaming around these days.


Also, just because a chick is unattractive, it doesn't mean she has no baggage. She may have been sexually abused, have low self-esteem (because she's fat), she's lazy, and anything else you can think of.


Yup yup.


No matter what the woman looks like, the way they work internally is THE SAME.


That's been hitting me more and more recently. Think of the truly great people throughout the ages... the pioneers of civilization. They've all been men. Men of character who defined their own principles and paved the way for successors, who never layed down for anyone.

Then you look at chicks, and they have this strong need to stay the same and never disrupt anything. Breaking out the mold is BAD business and results in ostracism from their female cliques, and that's just too much to bear *sob sob*.


Unattractive women should be greatful that they have a man who is genuinely interested in them. They should treat these men well, because they've looked past the physical fvck ups, and have seen that they are great people. But THEY'RE NOT greatful. They have the pu55y, therefore, they have the POWER.


This is why I'm glad I discovered this community for myself. Now if I sense bratty bullsh!t, I put a stop to it and make the girl think about how stupid she was acting and about how she could lose me forever in the blink of an eye.

I've had girls crying over this, because the sense of loss created is quite sudden and they feel very stupid for acting in such a selfish and unthoughtful manner. It's not harsh, it's a simple and justifiable punishment/reward system. As DJs/PUAs, one of the major things that separates us from the rest of chump-ridden society is that we, justly, punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. Instead of the mainstream fools who reward both good and bad behavior.


However, women can only gain the control if the man hands it over.

The bottom line is, if you hand your control and self-respect over to a woman (no matter what she looks like), she's going to use it to make your life fvcking miserable. She will make you feel and look one inch tall when she's mad at you. She will demand as much as she can from you, and you won't think twice about handing her whatever she wants, putting yourself in difficult situations to meet her demands.


Yup. Give the steering wheel to the chick and she will wreck the relationship in no time flat. It is not her job to lead.


Keep your self-respect and self-control. If you put these two into the hands of someone else, they will use them as a remote-control and destroy your life at your expense.
No doubt. Good post.

-Duke
 

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Re: Re: Women's appearance vs personality

Originally posted by Duke
This is why I'm glad I discovered this community for myself. Now if I sense bratty bullsh!t, I put a stop to it and make the girl think about how stupid she was acting and about how she could lose me forever in the blink of an eye.

I've had girls crying over this, because the sense of loss created is quite sudden and they feel very stupid for acting in such a selfish and unthoughtful manner. It's not harsh, it's a simple and justifiable punishment/reward system. As DJs/PUAs, one of the major things that separates us from the rest of chump-ridden society is that we, justly, punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. Instead of the mainstream fools who reward both good and bad behavior.
Great post duke - I agreed with everything you said. This quote is fantastic though and it sums up nicely how I conduct my relationship, and is a fundamental part of LTR/relationship Dj-ism (as opposed to the overwheling dominance of simple "just want a lay" stragegy found here.)

I wanted to ask you something about this - do you feel that your "bull**** sensors" are too sensitive sometimes?

Last nite my gf was hogging the bed so I called her on it - "look youve got all that room, im off the edge" and she replied "well, it is my bed".

now, we have a very close relationship and I just couldnt help but feel it was her trying to put the barrier up again between her and me, the barrier between whats mine and whats hers. I thought "she would never have said that in the beginning - shge would have been too into me." I want her to be like that all the time - I will NOT accept any less, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I felt it undermined what we've built and all the respect ive demanded, so I turned on her and showed her she could lose me easily - basically, that I will not tolerate ANY disrespect wahtsoever.

lol, does that sound ridiculous? what would you haver done?

Do you feel theres things that are borderline and youre not SURE they are disrespect?

Do you feel that things seem logically understandable, but yet your gut instincts STILL feel like its the beginning of being disrespected?

like her loosening up and STARTING to devalue you, and all your masculine instincts tell you youve got to nip it in the bud, however small?

thanks...
 

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Good post DES, the only thing I'll add is a reminder of the Cardinal Rule of Relationships (and not just limited to intersexual ones either):

In any relationship, the person with the most power is the one who needs the other the least.

NEVER allow a woman (even your wife) to think that you need her more than she needs you. This should be reflected in your behavior, your words, your personal decisions, everything. You lose all power when a woman thinks she is your only source of intimacy (i.e. sex) and she has no competition anxiety, it's at these instances that women begin to dictate the terms for their intimacy and you go all squishy AFC. Do this long enough and she will find another guy to fvck who is comfortable in his own identity with the confident enough to push back when she challenges him. Trust me, marriage is a life long sh!t test which you MUST continually pass. Always be ready to walk. Women and AFC simps love to parrot the line that relationships are hard work and require compromise - horsesh!t. This is womanesse for "he needs to work/compromise himself to meet my own misconstrued notion of an idealized relationship."
 

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Trust me, marriage is a life long sh!t test which you MUST continually pass. Always be ready to walk.
I'm beginning to believe this is key to a successful marriage. The reality is that women will stay with you if they know you can get other women - if they perceive that you can't get women or no longer can, they will leave (or make things awful for you so that you leave, or want to leave, or cheat, etc).

See WildThang's post in Negotiation for Successful DJing http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16005

I think this is what is meant by Challenge - not mystery or playing hard to get.

I think this is a reason (among others) why most men marry younger women. Generally speaking, it's just a lot easier to have that "I don't need you too much" attitude with younger women.
 

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good posts from Desdinova, Duke, Rollo, and even (although your new) now what.

This is the first time that I just waltzed into the tips forum in awhile. If there is more good posts like this then I'll stick around and give out the new observations that I have acquired.

once again, bible material
 
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