Women with Children(It's getting worse fellas)

[betheman]

So...let's take this situation to the next level-----let's raise the stakes of this scenario. Let's step into an episode of the Twilight Zone "So Suave-style" for a second.

"What if", as a single man, women WITH children were your ONLY choice?


What's best:

1. A woman who has lots of sex, gets pregnant, and HAS lots of babies?

Or...

2. A woman who has lots of sex, gets pregnant, and has lots of ABORTIONS?


And no matter which option you'd choose, I'd be interested in hearing the HONEST reason(s) "why" you'd make that choice.

Ok Ill go along with this, interesting maybe and not sure where its going but here goes,
the hottest one as has been stated,however if both are pretty equal on looks, probably 2, not sure I like the sounds of the lots of babies, that would be pretty restricting. dont like the idea of a woman having lots of abortions, I dont believe there is any need for abortions in the vast majority of case, birth control is freely available, also it would be clear she doesnt practice safe sex either so big red flag. I would alos have my suspicions about her mental state, either way, no LTR for either of the two

 

[Strelok]

the one thing i've learned the hard way about women with kids is that every single d@mn one of them is A) always complaining about how hard their life is and B) they always have their hand out to you, or anyone that will "help them". maybe not directly, some are more descrete about it but trust me, they're ALL looking for all the "freebies" they can get and not return any of the favors.

i got burned by a single mom who's baby daddy passed away when the kid was just 3 weeks old. unique situation to say the least. well i figured since baby daddy wasn't around this shouldn't be too much of a problem. i was wrong! you see, everything started out great, fine and dandy. then she started asking for money. not directly at first, but in sort of guilt you into it and make you feel sorry for her type of ways. "Boo hoo life is so hard, i have to raise my baby all by myself since my ex died. boo hoo, my job sucks and i'm not making enough money. boo hoo, blah blah blah." now i may sound like a cold hearted b@st@rd by not caring about her babies father passing away, and you're right i don't. i mean sure its sad, but why would i care?

anyways things were going fine. then i didnt hear from her until she needed money or something. then i stopped hearing from her all together. i was told she was having a hard time and going through alot thinking about her ex. why 6 months down the road?????? why was she so happy and availible and chipper when i met her 2 months after he died????? it's like her grieving process was backwards. i made a promise to myself after losing about $3k on this girl and all the "help" and "good deeds" i did that i will NEVER help another single mom at all for the rest of my days. why? because they will never apreciate it, it will never be enough no matter what you do, and even when the babies daddy is dead, you're STILL behind him.

honestly i hope karma bites her square in the @$$ for what she did to me and how she used me. true i let her, but i felt like i was doing the right thing at the time. live and learn my friends, live and learn.

Your choice is right but what was she was supposed to do?
If her man is dead and she has to feed her kid it's nothing immoral from her to try to get some resourches around.

If she was a spoiled girl looking for a sugar daddy to pay for her night life and clothes it would be different,but that woman had no other choice than doing so.

And about the karma,her man is dead she's alone with a kid that she has a hard time to feed,what else does it takes to make her life miserable?
Let the karma deal with those greedy man who pollute water and land to get even more money than those they already dont know how to spend.

 

[Robert28]

Your choice is right but what was she was supposed to do?
If her man is dead and she has to feed her kid it's nothing immoral from her to try to get some resourches around.

If she was a spoiled girl looking for a sugar daddy to pay for her night life and clothes it would be different,but that woman had no other choice than doing so.

And about the karma,her man is dead she's alone with a kid that she has a hard time to feed,what else does it takes to make her life miserable?
Let the karma deal with those greedy man who pollute water and land to get even more money than those they already dont know how to spend.

who cares about her, her stupid kid, or her druggie tattoo artist of an ex? i sure as hell don't. she came after me initially, knowing damn well what her plan was all along. that's not seeking out resources to survive, that's called using people because you have a sad story that will guilt them into helping you. well that guilt turned into despise and i could give less then a rats ass about what happens to her or her kid.

 

[Powerlifter]

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[englishman]

I was born in England and I was raised by a step father, in other words a guy who got in a relationship with a single mother (my mother) And me and him became the greatest of friends.
Also him and my mother had a great relationship from what I could see. They had a couple of kids together.
He took me hunting, then down the pub after with his buddy and they'd chase women around the pub with the ferrets that we used to catch rabbits.
My own father was/is a **** head who to this day would never take any responsibility for his kids.
Looked like a good setup to me, and we lived a happy life as this mixed together family. He had just come out of prison after doing 4 years when he met my mother, and was a tough cvnt, If anyone fvcked with us we used to kick the sh1t out of them, so they rarely did, and my mom was known jokingly as the 'godfather' amongst my friends. He's dead now, but was a top bloke. Thank god for men like that!:kick:

 

[Veridin]

Us single men will ALWAYS have a choice. Don't let any woman tell you differently.

Now if a woman has a kid and her husband died or something like that, I couldn't hold that against her. I'd still be VERY careful, but if she was cool enough AND THE KID was cool enough, I wouldn't completely rule it out. It'd be "two strikes" right off the bat though. (notice I said "husband", not "baby-daddy", as in the marriage was successful prior to the accident)

These couples, though, where the girl gets knocked up because she had unprotected sex with some dude, or where they were married or shacked up together, had a kid, and decided to split either because of drama or because of it "not working out"...THAT IS BULLSH*T.

The fact that you had a dysfunctional relationship to begin with and were either too dumb or too careless to bring a CHILD into that dysfunction without any regard to the CHILD's feelings just screams "irresponsible" to me.

I'm tired of these goddam kids "playing house", going through the motions of getting married and breeding and THEN thinking about whether or not they've done the right thing instead of thinking out these major life decisions BEFOREHAND.

These kind of people ARE WHAT'S WRONG with postmodern society. They KNOW they're not comfortable with following these typical patterns in life, yet they go through with them anyway. If you get married and decide you f**ked up later, it's become more acceptable to just divorce and you can usually make a "clean break" sooner or later. If you BRING A CHILD into the world, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU any more.

You f**k up your own life because you were too stupid to think about what you were doing before you did it, then you learn your lesson and move on. When you f**K up a CHILD'S life because you were too stupid to think about what you were doing, I don't want you in my life. I would take your child away from you and raise it MYSELF before I'd invite you into my life. (I have no inclination to do either...I am making a point)

My thoughts exactly. There are two types:

1. The serious relationship with a mature man and woman, where they have a child because they honestly thought they would stay together forever, but then for some reason it still doesn't work out.

2. The ones who "play house" as squirrels puts it. Often they get a kid as an escape from the demands in life. A girl who can't get value through education because she is too lazy, and then gets a kid to find value as a mother instead.

I have dated two single mothers, one of each type. Except the one who was type 2 actually was intelligent and mature in her thinking when I met her. I couldn't for the life of me understand how she could have a child so quickly with that guy. So incredibly dumb.

I have also met a woman (not dated) who said she loved her dog more than her daughter, "Because I chose my dog, but I didn't choose my daughter."

 

[Zunder]

I was born in England and I was raised by a step father, in other words a guy who got in a relationship with a single mother (my mother) And me and him became the greatest of friends.
Also him and my mother had a great relationship from what I could see. They had a couple of kids together.
He took me hunting, then down the pub after with his buddy and they'd chase women around the pub with the ferrets that we used to catch rabbits.
My own father was/is a **** head who to this day would never take any responsibility for his kids.
Looked like a good setup to me, and we lived a happy life as this mixed together family. He had just come out of prison after doing 4 years when he met my mother, and was a tough cvnt, If anyone fvcked with us we used to kick the sh1t out of them, so they rarely did, and my mom was known jokingly as the 'godfather' amongst my friends. He's dead now, but was a top bloke. Thank god for men like that!:kick:

Your 49 yrs old....so we are talking early 1960's here. Different world, different women, single-mums different to now. Just different.

 

[Solomon]

If you are a man who has no kids of his own, to date a single mom means you are a desperate, weak, and a misguided man.

Why on god's green earth would you want to raise another man's child? Are you out of your fuvking mind? If you are a single man with no kids, YOU SHOULD NEVER be in a relationship with a woman who has a child from someone else.

I don't know where you live, but single women are @ an all time high, as a black man with no kids it's even worse trying to date my own race cause 60-70% of them have kids(sometimes by multiple men).

Its not easy and I'm sure as you know it gets harder. I think single moms are great "pump&dumps" but I wouldn't try to wife one, knowing I'm #2, but even in the field now its tons of chicks with kids or who are getting divorced

I think Guru1000 had it right, become financially sound and the quality of women you meet goes up(and hopefully that means less single mums)

 

[Wolfgang D]

I don't know where you live, but single women are @ an all time high, as a black man with no kids it's even worse trying to date my own race cause 60-70% of them have kids(sometimes by multiple men).

In their twenties? That's screwed up. Don't these women know to use birth control? Or do they really want to be single moms? Do they get married first and then have kids, or is it from loose relationships? I don't get it.

 

[Solomon]

In their twenties? That's screwed up. Don't these women know to use birth control? Or do they really want to be single moms? Do they get married first and then have kids, or is it from loose relationships? I don't get it.

I can't speak for all areas but I know in my areas a lot of women get into relationships with guys who aren't father material and get knocked up. The ones that have multiple kids by different men tend to be low quality anyway. But it's messed up because their is this stigma that if your black guy with his shyt together you have an abundance of beautiful black women to choose from when that's not the case when over half of them have kids or are not datable.

 

[Nutz]

The older I get the more I notice single mothers just love love LOOOOOOVE me. I think it's a combination of having a great paying job, getting back into shape, having game finally, and them looking for a sucker/provider and their sexual market value dropping like a rock. Put simply, I've been crushing the 30+ crowd of women, single mothers or not. What I am still having problems with is cracking the 20-29 crowd, I suspect because they still think they're hot **** and have options.

 

[5string]

If you are a man who has no kids of his own, to date a single mom means you are a desperate, weak, and a misguided man.

Why on god's green earth would you want to raise another man's child? Are you out of your fuvking mind? If you are a single man with no kids, YOU SHOULD NEVER be in a relationship with a woman who has a child from someone else.

This is the winner however harsh. I made this mistake.

Never again.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=178965

 

[Solomon]

The older I get the more I notice single mothers just love love LOOOOOOVE me. I think it's a combination of having a great paying job, getting back into shape, having game finally, and them looking for a sucker/provider and their sexual market value dropping like a rock. Put simply, I've been crushing the 30+ crowd of women, single mothers or not. What I am still having problems with is cracking the 20-29 crowd, I suspect because they still think they're hot **** and have options.

I've noticed that single mothers think of me as a sucker/provider as well.
That's why they like to spring the "I like you and I wanna wait to have sex wah wah wah" once I hear that I'm gone

 

[KarmaSutra]

This is the winner however harsh. I made this mistake.

Never again.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=178965

You're not alone in that boat Brother. I did too.

Like you, I learned a life lesson from that 14 year mistake. None of that time was wasted because I will not lose another minute to the same mistake.

No single mothers ever again (other than purely sexual).

The current Miss K. is 31. She owns her house, her car, will have her Masters degree in Education before she's 32, she swallows, she loves anal, and I'm the 7th guy she's ever had a sexual relationship with.

Oh, and she's fvcking beautiful too.

We learn to appreciate the few good women we encounter by having a standard and through the broken b!tches we've tried to fix (always to our detriment).

 

[steve38]

OH come on guys, these women have been handicapped with the burden of raising children alone after their emotionally abusive husbands left them. And all you can do is sit there and make joke of them. It's not easy to raise 3 kids from 3 different fathers when you have been diagnosed with BPD!...you dont even have a clue.....you know what, **** you all, you will never understand.....lol.....ok i cannot go on anymore for teh LOLZ...yeah women with kids=mistake....carry on!

 

[KarmaSutra]

.....lol.....ok i cannot go on anymore for teh LOLZ...yeah women with kids=mistake....carry on!

You know who else uses goddamned internet/chick-speak? Twelve year-old MySpace tweens who salivate over Twilight movies.

Stop doing this.

 

[Warrior74]

strong fail karma. you mad bro?

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Look everyone makes mistakes and you really don't know the details of a certain person's circumstances...it's not like everyone here hasn't probably been lucky at least a few times of not getting a girl pregnant..

There are lots of good people out there. Some people move past their mistakes. Sure there are some trailer park trash b.itches, but there are some genuinely good people. And we all know from being at this forum that just as women can be fickle and cold, so can men. There are some women who likely have really cared about the man they had, and probably were trying their best and maybe he had an affair, ect, ect -- it's hard to judge someone entirely (although for fu.ck's sake I do this myself..)

BUT -- I know first hand my uncle met a woman who had two kids from a first marriage -- they're really happy together and have been married 20+ years. He treats them with respect, not as his own, but it's all good. Happiness can take many forms. Don't discredit a good person just because they've got babies...clearly, see if it fits into your life scheme, doesn't have to be YOUR children...but you may be passing up a good opportunity. My .02 cents.

 

[ProDJ26]

Agreed with Karma single women are nothing but baggage. Why a man would try to take care of another mans child is beyond me. In most cases you would still have to deal with both of the fathers and mothers issues because your part of the love triangle with the kid/s stuck in the middle. But what really gets me is these are the same women who run around claiming ''men aint sh!t''. Obviously he had something they liked but there are those of us who know emotion overules logic with these girls. I can understand people make mistakes but the majority of the time people want to (And Do) what they want despite all of the warning signs. Or there too afraid to be alone so they'll often be with someone they don't really want to be with. Its like they feel obligated.

Guy - ''Im only gonna move in with her because I don't wanna live with my parents''

GIRL - ''Im only gonna give him some pvssy because the daddy wont take care of my child. Hopefully this man will....''