Women use GUILT to control men

[Poon King]

Women will use anything they can to 'control' men, including guilt.

So don't let them do that, okay?

You are under no obligstion to respond to their efforts with anything other than laughter.

Exactly. But women are skilled at catching men off guard and rallying support from friends, family, society, etc. to apply pressure on that man.

Men need to know manipulation when they see it. But more importantly.. men need to stop viewing women as moral authorities on what is right vs. wrong.

Again.. STOP viewing women as moral authorities on what is right vs. wrong. This idea that upsetting a woman means you did something wrong is retarded.

Men need to decide if they want to spend their lives on a woman's emotional leash or if they want to be free.

 

[zekko]

Men are bigger and stronger than women. Generally speaking, they can't physically force you to do anything, unless you are a huge pvssy.

That's why they have to rely on guilt, shaming, and other manipulative tactics to try to get you to do what they want. Don't buy into it.

 

[MAYALL]

Awwww, did I make you cry when I asked if those little girls hurt you when they hit you?

But it was, you were questioning it until you moved the goalposts. Let's bring back your first comment.

My statement on men/women using force/manipulation stands, and it completely accurate. Men are built for force, women for manipulation. For some reason this pisses you off, as you are trying to pass both sexes off as the same. The world doesn't work that way cupcake, nature built us differently. Wipe away the SJW tear and get over it.

And now you have to insert "use objects and weapons". Which only serves to prove my point. Men generally don't need these to use force against women, but women would need them against men, and still generally it wouldn't work.

Since women don't use force, they generally use manipulation. Such as it is with the weakest in any group, manipulation.

Oh I really pissed you off son didn't I?

Tell us more about how men and women are equal in force, please, I could use a good laugh.

Or better yet, tell us how several million illegal criminals can break the profitability of Miss America. That should make for a great story from the 20 year old businessman! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Men and women will both use guilt and manipulation against each other to get what they desire. Some larger women are stronger than smaller weaker men. Women will use force against men. The weaker party will use stronger force to overpower a stronger force. Women will use objects and weapons to use overpowering force against men. Men being stronger and bigger isn't the factor. It's women using weapons or objects to gain more force over the man. Not only can you not read and comprehend, you're oblivious to what goes on in the real world.


Several million Americans, not illegals, were not going to watch NBC that would impact their ratings over all. Several major advertisers were going to pull their ads on NBC altogether losing revenue. Trump was let go for that reason when half of the country disagrees with his comments. Several other companies refuse to do business with him too. Learn how to read and comprehend, know what violence women are capable of, learn how business works because I'm having a good laugh at you. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[Poon King]

Men are bigger and stronger than women. Generally speaking, they can't physically force you to do anything, unless you are a huge pvssy.

That's why they have to rely on guilt, shaming, and other manipulative tactics to try to get you to do what they want. Don't buy into it.

This.

Guilt and shame rarely works on women when done by men. Not saying never. But rarely.

Those claiming men use guilt and shame to manipulate women. I would like some examples. The only ones I can think of are fat shaming and slut shaming. However, women use guilt, shame and manipulation to get men to do almost everything under the sun.

So its safe to say women use it much more and much more often.

Women will act the fool when you don't do what they want. Then rally support from others to shame you into submission. If you still don't fold, they will tell you that you need therapy. Generally.. men don't work this hard to force feed their values to women.

 

[prison/con.net]

actually, what women USUALLY do is "sic" other men, the law, etc, on you, counting upon you to not break their necks for doing so.

 

[KingBeef]

Manipulative females do, but only to weak men who lack conviction. Guilt trips dont bother me. I feel like I have a decent moral compass and wrong is wrong.
So when I feel like they are playing the victim, I tell them.

If it continues, I next her.

Couldn't agree with you more. The problem is there's a new generation of men being raised to accept women's guilt as fact and that men are totally inept/oblivious to "whats really going on".

 

[Peña]

Women use manipulation as their main "weapon", whereas men will use force as their main "weapon".

It is how nature built us, not sure why you keep arguing against that or why you have such an issue with it.



A very small amount. You are just citing exceptions, so what? They only serve to prove that there is a rule.



Awww, now you're getting pissed that your narrative is blowing up.

You have to cite objects and tools, which only further serve to prove my point that women would NEED them in order to use force instead of manipulation. Women primarily use manipulation because they lack the capacity for force which men have. This is why on the playground boys fight other boys, but women ostracize and manipulate. Get angry SJW, get soooo very angry!!!! :box: :box: :box: LOLZZZ!!!!!




Several million, wow. How many people are in the US again? Perhaps 300 Million?

LOL!!!! Oh yes, tell us more about how this "massive" group of legal Hispanics, many who speak broken English at best, would bring the PnL (Hint: that is profit and loss sweetie) of Miss America down into the red. Holy $hit you are a dense 20 something. Only an idiot would think such a small group would bring a wildly successful enterprise into the red.

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Danger is losing it.

Why do you need to always personally attack posters when you lost the argument? You did it with me when you claimed misandry. Now you do it this this guy taking comments out of context. You look like a fool. LOL

 

[Peña]

Rewriting history eh Pena?

Remember, you made it personal by attacking me and stating "you posted it, therefore the subject is about you" as your defense. Which of course I soundly trounced you on misandry as you refused to answer questions and kept trying to make it about me personally.

I am insulting this poster because he engaged in them first on the thread I linked. If he can't take it, then he shouldn't be starting it. But we know you are as much a blue-piller SJW when you get your panties twisted over misandry.

Now you make insults attacking me. That is breaking forum rules. You are admitting to insulting people. Your problem is you can not take being told you are wrong when you are. You will not admit you are wrong. You will twist words, whine, lie, make stuff up so you can win your lost argument. We all can see how you do that. I see no insults from the poster insulting you. I only see you getting angry insulting him. You are whining and insulting him because he made you look like a fool.

You claimed early misandry when there was none. That poster is still posting on the site. There was no misandry. You were proven wrong on that and you whined playing the victim the whole time accusing me of personally attacking you. You made that post about yourself claiming misandry. I pointed out how you were wrong and then you lost it attacking me like you are doing here. You are a blue piller disguising yourself trying to be red pill.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Danger I think Peña has a crush on you haha

 

[MAYALL]

Women use manipulation as their main "weapon", whereas men will use force as their main "weapon".

It is how nature built us, not sure why you keep arguing against that or why you have such an issue with it.

A very small amount. You are just citing exceptions, so what? They only serve to prove that there is a rule.

Awww, now you're getting pissed that your narrative is blowing up.

You have to cite objects and tools, which only further serve to prove my point that women would NEED them in order to use force instead of manipulation. Women primarily use manipulation because they lack the capacity for force which men have. This is why on the playground boys fight other boys, but women ostracize and manipulate. Get angry SJW, get soooo very angry!!!! :box: :box: :box: LOLZZZ!!!!!

Men and women will both use guilt and manipulation against each other to get what they desire. Women will use force against men and will physically attack them. It appears you are oblivious to what women will do against men. Read up on it to educate yourself since you lack the knowledge.

http://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

Men are bigger and stronger than most women. Some larger women are stronger than smaller weaker men who can beat them up. Women will use objects or weapons to gain power and force over men. The weaker party will always look for any advantage to gain power and strength over the stronger one. If a woman was pointing a gun at a man standing a few feet away, she would hold the power and force over him. His physical size would not matter. She would have the stronger force and power over him using manipulation. Not sure why that simple logic can't compute in your brain.

Several million, wow. How many people are in the US again? Perhaps 300 Million?

LOL!!!! Oh yes, tell us more about how this "massive" group of legal Hispanics, many who speak broken English at best, would bring the PnL (Hint: that is profit and loss sweetie) of Miss America down into the red. Holy $hit you are a dense 20 something. Only an idiot would think such a small group would bring such a wildly successful enterprise into the red.

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If you think 300 million people are watching NBC you're extremely dense. The NbA Finals was #1 in the ratings with 20 million viewers. Cut the audience in half along with 5 major sponsors pulling their ads off the network indefinitely. The network would lose their ass in profits and ratings.

It's not only Hispanics who were angry about Trump's comments. It was half of the U.S. population who disagreed with it. Corporate advertisers were going to pull their ads from all NBC programming contributing to severe profit decline. Smart businessmen don't make comments that will anger half of the U.S. population to damage your company's reputation and profit earnings. Learn something about Business Ethics and Business 101. Also, take an anger management class while you're at it. Over emotional men never make it with the ladies.

 

[MAYALL]

Ah good, I see you are coming around to my way of thinking, if doing so in a begrudging manner. In the general natural state (without weapons) women default to manipulation more than men and men default to force more than women.

Why? Because that is how nature built them. Your introduction of tools only serves to obfuscate the message. But at least you're finally learning a bit and shedding that blue-pill thinking.

Reading comprehension and intelligence isn't one of your finer qualities I see. Men still use manipulation and guilt to achieve what they desire from women. Women will still use force against men with or without weapons. My message must have gotten clouded through your emotional angry outbursts. Hope that finally sinks in now.

If you think that tiny amount of illegals will have any impact on the PnL (again that's profit and loss son) of a wildly profitably enterprise, then you are extremely dense.


But Danger......ooooo peeps were mad mad mad!!!! LOL!!!! :box: :box: :box:


You remind me of the #OccupyWallStreet movement. They were going to change the world, just watch and wait. All of the anger at Wall Street and Bankers....anndddddd.......it fizzled. Why would you think any boogeyman forecasted boycott of Hot babes in bikinis would manifest itself any differently and stay is beyond comprehension.

If you think Trumps valid comments regarding illegals would have kept enough people from watching hot babes in bikinis then you don't know men very well, LOL!!! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

And again I find it hilarious that you cite "Business Ethics" while bashing a man who speaks facts but supporting Brian Williams who lied through the nose but still stayed on the air.

Man you SJW's make for great comedic-relief. Boycotting hot babes in bikinis because a big meanie spouted some facts. LOL!!! Riiiiiight!

We are all getting some great comic relief from your posts. Keep them coming. Your emotional outburts reminds me of my ex. :crackup:

Jeb Bush was offended by Donald Trump's comments. He is married to an Hispanic woman. Millions of other Americans married to Hispanics or of Hispanic descent were offended too. Millions of Americans in relationships with Hispanic partners were offended. Millions of Americans with Hispanic relatives and friends were offended as well. All of those offended people were going to have a major impact on all of NBC's ratings, profits, revenue on all of it's programming. Not only one program as you ignorantly keep repeating. Donald Trump was let go from companies like NBC, Macy's, NASCAR for that reason. His comments offended millions of people and those companies aren't going to lose consumers and profits over Trump.

Smart businessmen don't make public comments that can offend people no matter if it's true. People will get angry and it will have a negative impact on your business, profits, and future holdings you may try to acquire. Learn something about business, business ethics, profits. Read some books, take some business classes, read a newspaper to learn about these subjects. Also, maybe you should take a prozac to contain your online outburts.

 

[MAYALL]

Men use manipulation, but that is not their primary method for obtaining what they want. Not by a long shot.

Equally vice versa, women can use force, but that is not their primary method for obtaining what they want.

The general rule is men = force, women = manipulation. I'll never understand why this angers so many blue-pill SJW's so badly. Just accept that is how nature built the sexes.

I agree with all of that. Your lack of reading comprehension is hilarious, which is why I'm laughing at you. I don't understand why you're getting so pissed off. You're agreeing with me that men and women will use guilt, force, manipulation. Men will use guilt and manipulation at times to get what they desire. Women will use force to attack men at times. Don't know why you couldn't understand that. Learn how to read the posts next time.

Millions of other people hate banks and wall street, but they still have pensions, IRA's and bank accounts. Millions of people may not like Trump stating uncomfortable facts, but they'll still sit on the couch and watch hot booty in bikinis.

Millions of people will never ever trust Brian Williams again, but NBC kept him on because they felt he would be profitable. If you think Miss America is going to go in the red then you aren't very knowledgeable on the short attention span of Americans nor are you able to critically think and compare a wildly successful enterprise like Miss America to a lying narrative builder like Brian Williams.

Comparing banks to TV is ridiculous. NBC wasn't concerned about Miss America ratings. They were concerned about advertisers pulling big money making ads from all their programming resulting in revenue loss. I'm in business and know people in the business, you don't know anything about how business works.

Brian Williams didn't offend millions of people with racial comments. I happen to agree with Trump's comments. Smart businessmen don't make those comments public where millions of people can be offended resulting in loss of profits and revenue. Making comments like that is bad business ethics. Smart businessmen don't care who is buying their products even if they don't like them. Their goal is to keep making money adding profits, not having major companies drop you resulting in revenue loss. Good businessmen don't jeopardize their company revenue. Trump lost revenue from NBC, Macy's, his mattress line, NASCAR, and more to come. There was no need for that to happen losing all that revenue. I can't believe you couldn't comprehend any of that getting so pissed off. Learn how to read dude. Thanks for the laugh. :crackup:

 

[MAYALL]

And I am adding the detail that men are naturally built for force, and thus use it more, and women are naturally built for manipulation and thus use it more.

Wilson, M. I. & Daley, M. (1992). Who kills whom in spouse killings? On the exceptional sex ratio of spousal homicides in the United States. Criminology, 30, 189-215. (Authors summarize research which indicates that between 1976 and 1985, for every 100 men who killed their wives, about 75 women killed their husbands. Authors report original data from a number of cities, e.g., Chicago, Detroit, Houston, where the ratio of wives as perpetrators exceeds that of husbands.)

Waiping, A. L., & Sporakowski, M. J. (1989). The continuation of violent dating relationships among college students. Journal of College Student Development, 30, 432-439. (Using a modified version of the CTS, authors examined courtship violence in a sample of 422 college students <227 women, 195 men>. Women more often than men <35.3% vs 20.3%> indicated that they physically abused their partners.)

http://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ins-remaining-taboos-abuse-men-home-rise.html
http://www.medicaldaily.com/domesti...timate-terrorists-controlling-behavior-290662
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...kely-to-commit-domestic-violence-studies-show


Science debunks the "women are gentler sex" myth, finding they are more likely to be "intimate terrorists" or hit their male partners in relationships.

According to these statistics, women more often than men indicated that they physically abused their partners. Women are using force against men even though they are weaker. Men will also use guilt and manipulation even though women use it more. Don't know why you had a problem with my statements getting pissed off. My points were made very clear. Learn more about what women are actually doing against men, it will open your closed eyes.

You seem to take issue with me saying it is not by any means distributed evenly at all. Or do you agree with that?

You seem to have issues reading my posts coming to an entirely different conclusion.

Brian Williams offended everyone who trusted him. But he was still kept on because his lies served the SJW narrative. Given the popularity of Miss America, the demand curve for those ads would move very little (look up demand curve when you get a chance). NBC was just SJWing, much like the rest of the world which is terrified of facts.

Miss America ratings has nothing to do with NBC firing Trump. Major advertisers were going to pull out affecting the network's revenue for all their programming. Macy's and NASCAR fired Trump for the same reason of revenue loss. Companies and Organizations don't want to lose revenue for associating with Trump. It's an all around standard business decision. Take a college business and reading comprehension summer course, it would be in your best interest.

 

[VladPatton]

Unless you do something truly fûcked up, never embrace guilt. It's a method for people to control you or manipulated you.

 

[MAYALL]

Your first physical attack link s using weapons, which does not impact the discussion, unless women are born with knoves or guns in their hand?

Your second link just says "abuse", but nothing about women getting what yhey wanted.

Overall that means you just feebly tried to move the goalposts of the discussion so as to not be embarassed by your idiocy. Remember, it was that men use force to "get what they want", and that women use manipulation to "get what they want". Her feeble punches, while meeting the definition of abuse, certainly didn't get her whatvshe wanted, they were just feelz raging out of control as they so often do, including with your feeble punches right now.

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Force is force whether it's hands, objects, or weapons. Women are using more force against men which has been documented by several studies and journals. Obviously, the women wanted something, and did it for a reason which is why they were doing the attacking. They aren't going to go into grand detail citing each individual case for what it is. I don't expect you to understand when you can't comprehend any of it.

Miss america Ratings has everything to do with it. Those coveted ad spots would not be unfilled for long. If the price dropped even a fraction for those ads it would still be wildly profitable for NBC and Miss America AND for the companies who knew a good advertising deal when they saw it.

If you knew anything about ad revenue and how viewership drives it, you would understand business better and why NBC was just SJWing, similar to what they did with Brian Williams, or even with the "he looks like he is up to no good, he looks black" editing they did to George Zimmerman to make him look guilty. NBC is right at the top of the SJW clown heap, and we see it over and over in their actions.

Back to Brian Williams and Miss America since that's all you can repeat like a broken record. Miss America ads aren't going to keep NBC profitable when major sponsors aren't going to pay during the rest of the days/weeks/months. Macy's and NASCAR dumped Trump too for the same reason. Sign up for those courses dude. Thanks again for the laugh. :crackup:

 

[MAYALL]

Using more force, with weapons. I am not debating that. I am saying generally the natural state (meaning no weapons) of women is to obtain what they want through manipulation, whereas the natural state for men is by force. When one side has a weapon, it is no longer a "natural state".

Why does that statement upset you so much SJW?

Uhoh, you're getting angrier now!! LOL :box: :box: :box: :box:

I repeat it because it's fact and you are angry because you nave nothing against it.

If you think those major sponsors won't be replaced by other, new major sponsors then you know nothing about business.

Here is a quick business lesson for you. There is a ROI for ads placed by companies. If the price for those ads goes down, the ROI goes up. Thus the moment a major sponsor backs out due to SJW reasons, a smarter businessman will jump in at the higher ROI. Simple math cupcake.

Oh, and don't forget, the NBC SJW crew tried the same crap when they changed Zimmerman's statements to make him sound racist. No different than the Trump items or in their saving Brian Williams, a hood ornament for SJWism.

Your lies are fooling nobody, but I can see you OD'd on the SJW Kool-Aid. Go have some more, maybe it will save you from your meltdown which is no doubt coming soon.

Is this dude for real? I've never seen a guy get so emotional before. And you're 41? You might want to get tested for BPD bro. :crackup:

Women are using natural force against men dude. It's documented statistic facts researched in the journals. Women are using hands and fists as natural force. They also use weapons and objects as force. Companies like NBC, Macy's, NASCAR fire people like Donald Trump who bring bad business. Not too difficult to comprehend. Sounds like you have an axe to grind with NBC.

 

[Poon King]

Unless you do something truly fûcked up, never embrace guilt. It's a method for people to control you or manipulated you.

 

[MAYALL]

Oh here it comes, the predicted SJW meltdown when presented with persistent facts and not allowed to move the goalposts!

Of cpurse women use force without weapons, and men use manipulation, it just is not their primary method of obtaining what they want. I still don't understand why that statement angers you so much? Can you explain why that upsets you.

On NNC I am merely pointing out how ad tevenue works for wildly successful events and showing the past SJW history of NBC. This soundly ruins your SJW narrative so it was easy to predict the ongoing meltdown you are only just starting.

Glad you finally agree with me after your ridiculous unhinged rants. :crackup:

Women use force against men with and without weapons. Men will use manipulation and guilt against women to get what they want. ESPN dumped Trump too for his comments. Take that BPD test and those college courses for your sake.

 

[3agle 3yes]

...Some larger women are stronger than smaller weaker men. Women will use force against men...

The big person, small person argument can't be used when comparing men with women in my opinion. The biggest of women is hardly stronger than the smallest or weakest of men. This is also not even taking into account that the majority of women can't throw a punch properly to save their lives, nor swing a weapon. One of the biggest differences between men and women is testosterone, a women's lack of this reduces her strength and aggression.

Honestly, I don't read much on cases of domestic abuse, but from what I know most cases when women are physcially abusing men are cases when those men simply refuse to strike the women back, probably because they believe it's not right to strike women.

 

[MAYALL]

The big person, small person argument can't be used when comparing men with women in my opinion. The biggest of women is hardly stronger than the smallest or weakest of men. This is also not even taking into account that the majority of women can't throw a punch properly to save their lives, nor swing a weapon. One of the biggest differences between men and women is testosterone, a women's lack of this reduces her strength and aggression.

Honestly, I don't read much on cases of domestic abuse, but from what I know most cases when women are physcially abusing men are cases when those men simply refuse to strike the women back, probably because they believe it's not right to strike women.

What difference does that make when women are still striking men? The statistics show that violence and assault is rising with women against men. For every 100 men that killed their wife, 75 women killed their Husbands. In a sample of 422 college students <227 women, 195 men>. Women more often than men <35.3% vs 20.3%> indicated that they physically abused their partners. Deny it all you want, those are the stats dude.