"Women Today think the Universe revolves around them.."

[Zarky]

It's stupid to assume that because we are comparing notes that we are not proactively working on improving our dating lives.

That's fantastic, and here I thought this thread was just another pity-party.

I'm looking forward to the next posts being about how men can individually and collectively address the problem of women being uppity, or whatever, and ultimately solve it, ameliorate it, or overcome it.

Begin.

 

[Warrior74]

That's fantastic, and here I thought this thread was just another pity-party.

I'm looking forward to the next posts being about how men can individually and collectively address the problem of women being uppity, or whatever, and ultimately solve it, ameliorate it, or overcome it.

Begin.

Yah good luck with that. I've been reading about the men's rights movement and it seems very few people have any real answers the problem. Most are like Roissy and others, just waiting for civilization to fall while snatching all the loose poon they can get until we are all praying to the east 5 times a day. In order solve the problem it requires men to change. Change into what is the question, but I doubt it's into Don Juans. Women will not choose to behave well when they have a choice. I for one welcome our new Islamic overloards. LOL.

You can examine the roots of the problem for only so long, you can discuss the symptoms for only so long. After a while you have to do something. I joke about the muslim thing...but seriously there are more western women than men converting to islam, and I wonder why that is. It would seem it would be a feminist's nightmare. But islam requires something of women. Submission. Unwavering, unquestioning, and with harsh consequences. There are no consequences in the West for women. Well there are, you know lonely with a house full of cats. But by the time those consequences are evident its too late for everyone. The men who will never have a useful wife, living lives of either desperation or gamesmenship and the women who will pass their bitterness and misandry on to another generation of single parent raised kids.

You know, I've been watching The Walking Dead on AMC. And one thing I noticed was this. Once the prop of society was out of the way and lives were on the line, men and women fell into proper gender roles quickly. It's only the false prop of society that allows any of this to happen. Might made right, honor and loyalty were again valued. Word was again bond. Supporting your man was necessary for women. Because the consequences mattered. If you didn't play your role, everyone suffers and people die.

The best that can be done in the west is for each man to learn and teach others to stand up, not take crap and deny those who continue to dish it out. Boys have to have role models and masculine activities to learn the fundamentals of manhood. Just a few thoughts off the top of my head.

 

[Solomon]

Does anybody propose anything other than just sitting around and whining? I tend to see the marriage market as something that will figure itself out. I don't have trouble dating women. Yes there are some prima donnas out there, but they're usually not in the dating pool, or if they are I can sniff them out from 40 yards. And there are lots of gay men and total shmucks who aren't in the dating pool either, so the ratios are roughly the same.

I hate these "let's all b|tch and whine together and never come up with any solutions" threads. They are utterly pointless, completely unmanly, and my sig usually holds true: the guys who are complaining are not the guys who are getting out there and making p*ssy happen for them.

Zarky I agree with ya mate, but if you read my whole posts you woulda known that I was asking for guys to post their experiences and solutions for this, I even used those words in the first post.

anyway I'll post on my solutions(theory and personal experiments) experiences (doing) when I get a chance to post a bit more in depth

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Yes, I definitely agree it's only good to whine if there is some productive end. Otherwise we're all dancing in puddles of tears.

There may be something to be said that many people these days are overly self-entitled, female or male. Finding genuine people with realistic world-views and bearings on people is difficult. Most people are likely overly enthusiastic in their expectations of another person, and likely less forgiving with others faults.

Many people struggle enough being tolerant or understanding or refining of their own faults.

I wonder if half of these women are just as overly self-critical as they are of others, and also wonder if they even meet their own expectations they have for themselves.

Really in general, it seems that humanity as a whole often thinks the universe revolves around them (or perhaps the whole world revolves around the USA, fukk yeah!). Many people are still so caught up in world religion and strict metaphysical views that they are unable to grasp the infinite from which we are a part.

Probably both men, women, children and elderly could learn to let go of the universe-revolves-around-me mentality, and instead realize that yes you are the only frame of reference for your conscious experience (ie, you are stuck in your body with your thoughts and your eyes and in some ways yes the world revolves around your perceptions)...but the universe does not operate purely for our own selfish desires.

Perhaps everyone could learn to benefit by practicing some contentment, some acceptance, and hold reality to a little less rigid formula. Maybe everyone would have more peaceful relationships or greater things in their life if we weren't raised on Reality TV and a diet of Superficial Values and Fast Food Gratification.

 

[mrRuckus]

Many people struggle enough being tolerant or understanding or refining of their own faults.

I wonder if half of these women are just as overly self-critical as they are of others, and also wonder if they even meet their own expectations they have for themselves.

Overly self critical? No. They're walking around at 300 lbs. They aren't self-critical enough.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Sense of Entitlement

"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."
— Marilyn Monroe

Now imagine a man saying this!! These women use the "power" of sex, that´s the only thing these types can bring to the table.

 

[Begin2Live]

shes living the "Sex and the City Dream"

This is something I've felt and started to see in women. Not to say that women from other countries don't profit and thrive off their beauty and vajajay. But I find American women sometimes increasingly not as feminine as foregin. Eventually they actually will be single and alone for the rest of their lives. At least the economy will benefit as women will constantly consume and never become family women.

I'm not a DJ by any means but I want to become smoother and eventually one. One day I'll probably need to put it away or I'll become the same as these women-- Not yet though. Zarkys quote is where I try to come back too:
"Any man who is bitter toward women is not alpha and probably never will be."

 

[synergy1]

Really in general, it seems that humanity as a whole often thinks the universe revolves around them (or perhaps the whole world revolves around the USA, fukk yeah!). Many people are still so caught up in world religion and strict metaphysical views that they are unable to grasp the infinite from which we are a part.

well look at the outrage when the Copernicus model hit mainstream back when we thought the universe was geocentric. A heliocentric model made the most sense and there was no way the church was going to let that one slip away without a fight. Humans have always, and still overstate their relative self importance and anything contradictory to these views is often met with harsh reaction. What ever happened to the flawed geocentric model anyway? Eventually the truth came out, even if it took a great deal of time.

Overall, the human race is less intelligent than we give credit. Subtract a few key individuals, and we would have never discovered governing equations, electromagnetism/ magnetic fields, the combustion engine, quantum physics, and nuclear power. Instead, the average person is busy squabbling over imaginary invisible men who is broke and needs more money and followers.

 

[jophil28]

"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."
— Marilyn Monroe

Now imagine a man saying this!! These women use the "power" of sex, that´s the only thing these types can bring to the table.

Marilyn Monroe was later believed to have had BPD.
Her behavior fit the criteria.

 

[jophil28]

No kidding! Now there's a trivia question.

Yep, and while you are contemplating your next "trivia night" you might also know that Princess Diana is also thought to be one of that group of BPD lovelies. She was the "Waif type" (or subtype) .

 

[5string]

Marilyn Monroe was later believed to have had BPD.
Her behavior fit the criteria.

Sure did. :crazy:

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Sure did. :crazy:

The thought process of a whacko:
http://www.shrink4men.com/wp-conten...flict-Resolution-Abusive-Woman-Flow-Chart.jpg
:rockon:

Doc love nails it once again!!

If a girl has a boyfriend and she’s kissing you, all you’re ever going to be is a boy toy, somebody she plays with on the side while the other guy isn’t around. Drazen, what this means is that Alita is using you, misleading you and giving you false hope. “This woman is no good.” She has no character. She has no honesty. She has no Loyalty. She has no Integrity. You can’t trust her. If she really dug you, she would break up with that guy. But he’s an idiot, and you’re an idiot, so she’ll continue stringing the two of you along until she gets more bored with the both of you than she already is. Making out with one guy isn’t enough for Alita. “If she has two guys, she can try to fill that empty hole of low self-esteem inside her which can never be satisfied.” And by the way, what makes you so sure that you and Alita’s boyfriend are the only two fish she’s got on the line? What if she’s flirting with and e-mailing other guys around the country?

Holy sh!T!
Sense of entitlement all over the place!! Who´s to blame???
http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_600/656_doc-love-getting-used.html