Women that want to wait...

[GuanYu]

I've had my share of "first nighters" and chicks that will fvck on the spot, but recently the past few women I hook up with have this notion that they should wait to give it up.

For example, today I meet up with this fine college chick(this was our first meeting) and we just chilled for a bit. Watched "Knocked Up" and conversed about basic get to know you sh*t. Anyway, throughout she was sitting a fair distance away from me until I said something then she laid on me. After a while, I start kissing on her neck and gently stroke her and try for the boob. She stopped me and said "I don't give it up off the bat." So I didn't make anything of it and proceeded to just continue cuddling her.

Later, I fondle her again but this time she lets me rub her tits, so I take off one of her straps(and to my dismay she puts it back on) but she continued to let me feel her tits and kiss blah blah.

So being the cool dude I am, I imply to her "we have plenty of time to wait, that's cool, etc..." and she melts of course.

My question to you all is, if they pvssy is worth it how do you know when the time is right? My instincts tell me I can seal the deal within 2 weeks if I KIT with her and not try to press the issue. How long do you typically wait to hit before you run?

Also, I'm a firm believer that all women that make you wait aren't d*ck teasers. They know your intentions off the bat and insist on continue hooking up with you so it's only inevitable before sex becomes an option.

 

[Juando]

I'm seeing a girl who wants to wait- tomorrow night.

I have to admit I've gotten rusty, after my LTR, but my plan is to make a move no matter what, and to make more moves if I get rebuffed.

I don't want to TALK to her, about WANTING HER. I WANT her. I will GET her or I will be rejected soundly.

I will not be influenced by her actions from the past. I will KISS or be rejected. If rejected I will not give up until the only option is NEXTING.

What else is a MAN to do?

 

[joekerr31]

Man A has a sick child that needs a surgery and decides to rob a bank to get it.

Man B has a drug habit and decides to rob a bank to get money.

Man C is a professional criminal and robs banks for a living.


if we didn't know why these men were each robbing a bank, we'd see them all the same.

but once we find out the reasons why they were robbing the bank suddenly our attitude becomes very different towards them. Man A we feel sorry for. Man B we feel sorry for, but not nearly as much as Man A. and with Man C our attitude is 'do the crime, do the time'.

the same thing applies for women and the 'right time'.

if a woman is wanting to wait because she likes you and wants to build a bond of intimacy, then no big deal.

if she has insecurity issues about her body and it takes her a while to let you see her naked, no big deal.

if however she as manipulating you and trying to use her p*ssy power to break you down and control the frame (ie. SHE has what is valuable and you should be thankful IF she ever lets you taste the p*ssy), then this is VERY bad.

the fact that she said 'i dont give it up off the bat' is troubling to me. she is talking like her p*ssy is a commodity ( 'it' ) - something to be traded.

my advice to you is to pull back on the attention you are giving this chic. spin other plates. she's put her p*ssy on a pedestal and now you have to knock it back down.

 

[joekerr31]

one other thing - i know guys will say that a woman who is really in to you will never stale your advances.

while this is true, the reality is that 95% of the women you date aren't going to be so head over heels infatuated with you that the moment you try to get into their pants they simply give it up.

most you have to establish yourself as a confident, strong male first.

 

[ketostix]

Man A has a sick child that needs a surgery and decides to rob a bank to get it.

Man B has a drug habit and decides to rob a bank to get money.

Man C is a professional criminal and robs banks for a living.


if we didn't know why these men were each robbing a bank, we'd see them all the same.

but once we find out the reasons why they were robbing the bank suddenly our attitude becomes very different towards them. Man A we feel sorry for. Man B we feel sorry for, but not nearly as much as Man A. and with Man C our attitude is 'do the crime, do the time'.

the same thing applies for women and the 'right time'.

if a woman is wanting to wait because she likes you and wants to build a bond of intimacy, then no big deal.

if she has insecurity issues about her body and it takes her a while to let you see her naked, no big deal.

if however she as manipulating you and trying to use her p*ssy power to break you down and control the frame (ie. SHE has what is valuable and you should be thankful IF she ever lets you taste the p*ssy), then this is VERY bad.

the fact that she said 'i dont give it up off the bat' is troubling to me. she is talking like her p*ssy is a commodity ( 'it' ) - something to be traded.

my advice to you is to pull back on the attention you are giving this chic. spin other plates. she's put her p*ssy on a pedestal and now you have to knock it back down.

This is great stuff. Sometimes it can be a little tricky discerning if you have a type "c" woman or not, being the natural actors that they are.

 

[joekerr31]

This is great stuff. Sometimes it can be a little tricky discerning if you have a type "c" woman or not, being the natural actors that they are.

this is why you have to pay attention to your woman and take your time before you decide she's 'the one'.

its also the reason why 90% of your focus should be on yourself, what you want, how are you behaving, etc.

you can't control other people or the external world, but you can control yourself and decide what is and is not acceptable in your life.

 

[Bible_Belt]

how long do you typically wait to hit before you run?

Second date, maybe the third at the very most. I have gotten laid on the first date before, then had to deal with a lot of bs out of the girl, her guilt over being a slvt who puts out on the first date. That first date is a big deal to a lot of girls, putting out makes them feel slvtty. If I can tell that a girl wants sex, but has a thing against the first date, I will not press the issue.

 

[GuanYu]

^^ That's exactly how this chick is. She claimed, "I'm not that easy" when I was advancing further which basically tells me just give it a little time.

Btw, she said she wants to see me tommorrow night. I'll probably do exactly what I did before and try to bang her. Something tells me I may get it. She's definitely not the type that puts her pvssy on a pedestal.

 

[Colossus]

Ah, the old ASD.

Most women are like this. I have definitely had my share of first nighters, but it never turned out favorably. I usually have sex with a woman by the third date...but it has gone longer. I typically get frustrated after that point and decide whether it's worth continuing or not. Usually it isnt, but if she is the right girl i will wait for a time.

The absolute last thing a woman wants to be seen as is a slut. Not by you, not by her friends, not by anyone. And, as fun as a first-nighter may be, i lose a lot of respect for them after that. I think every guy does. "if she gave up to me that easily...who else??"

The way i see it is this: It is my duty as a Man to try and have sex with the girl im with. Provided there is clear interest and reciprocation on her part, and we're in a private location; once we start making out is when my go-for-sex instinct usually kicks in.

So, she has every right to say no, or not yet...but i will still try. Light resistance is usually ok; heavy resistance = bad. Abort mission.

 

[joekerr31]

the easiest way around this is to forget about sex all together. focus on pushing her buttons, kino, C&F, setting the frame, etc.

most women will grease the runway and clear you for landing without you having to convince them to let you land.

 

[mrRuckus]

Have any of you ever tried telling a girl on the first date "we're not going to have sex tonight?" They've said it to us, why not say it to them?

What are the results? Or what do you think the results would be?

 

[CGE333]

It depends on what you want from this girl. If you are looking to have a good time but nothing serious and nothing too long then I guess whenever it happens is great. If it is someone you are serious about and there is LTR possibility, why not wait a little bit, just my 2 cents.

 

[Juando]

So, she has every right to say no, or not yet...but i will still try. Light resistance is usually ok; heavy resistance = bad. Abort mission.

Got to the end of my rope with one of these hopeless cases. Unfortunately for
my remaining AFC self, I was developing oneitis for this one so,
it hurts. Hurts pretty much like it did when I was in high school.

I will chalk it up to dj training and see about being an alchemist, transforming this painful experience into a launching pad for my next, and successful experience.

BTW since it's confession night (and the night before the resurrection), got flaked on last night by another plate I was hopeful about.

So: Abort mission and clear the decks....