women losing feelings

[captain55]

I've had this happen to me several times. Women just flat out fall out of love with me or lose feelings for me usually at somewhere between the 4 month to 1 year mark. I have several theories for why this happens

Im one of those guys who intentionally pursues women who aren't extremely physically attracted to me because I like the chase. A girl who is strongly physically attracted to me requires no effort to me, its impossible to **** up for the most part with women who are strongly physically attracted to you. Is this my problem?

Is it possible to maintain physical attraction with a girl long term, if she wasn't extremely attracted to you in the first place or will she inevitably lose attraction to you once the chase is over for her?

Let's face it most of us are NOT hooking up with women who are strongly physically attracted to us because those women don't require any game whatsoever. We pride ourselves on our conquests for girls who had low to moderate interest level, and whom we won over with our actions/game

 

[bigneil]

Is it possible to maintain physical attraction with a girl long term, if she wasn't extremely attracted to you in the first place or will she inevitably lose attraction to you once the chase is over for her?

You answered your own question. She never had attraction to begin with. So the answer is NO, you can't get girls who are way out of your league to stay with you forever.

Are you seriously wondering why girls who were never that attracted to you don't stay with you that long?

In other words, you prefer hot women who don't like you versus unattractive girls who do? I suspect you want women from a different race?

Let's face it most of us are NOT hooking up with women who are strongly physically attracted to us because those women don't require any game whatsoever. We pride ourselves on our conquests for girls who had low to moderate interest level, and whom we won over with our actions/game

This is wrong. This is what you want to believe. I exclusively date women who are strongly physically attracted to me. That was Pook's main theme.

Reality says that if they are losing interest, you need to improve yourself, not hypnotise yourself into thinking fat girls are hot. There exist men who these girls you like are attracted to. If girls who YOU like were attracted to YOU, you would like them MORE, not less.

People always want something for nothing. They want to believe they have it all, so they play these games like "I only like women who don't like me, and I don't like the really nice girls who do like me. I'm very handsome, just ask my Aunt". Hit the gym.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

It sounds like you are too worried about physically attraction man. Usually thats the chicks job to be insecure about her body & she will worry if you will stay physically attracted. You are putting way to much weight on this. Woman feed off emotions way more than the visual. How make them feel, blah blah...prize mentality etc.

My ex-wf never stopped grabbing my a** the 7 years were together. She loved my hockey ass. (I don't lift so only lower body is in better shape.) Depends on the broad....a good number of my exs loved my hockey a** & some wouldn't notice it all that much. Are you insecure about your body...maybe they sense this & lose feelings/attraction that way?

 

[Who Dares Win]

A guy which on purpose seeks girls not that attracted to him because girls attracted to him are not a challenge despite experiencing such girls to lose interest and leave...maybe you go check bikers shop despite having a drive licence for cars only because you like the challenge?

This is psychiatry material.

 

[RangerMIke]

A woman's attraction level is the single most important factor in getting women and keeping them. If you are hooking up with women who are as you describe, "aren't extremely physically attracted",then what you are doing is starting things with women who already have a low level of interest in you.

If these women are out of your league, and you do not have LMS at a level sufficent enough to keep her, then there really is little you can to do push thier attraction level up.

You might think that they have strong feelings for you, but the fact is women are emotional creatures and operate at a level men can not understand. They have the ability turn on and off their emotions based on thier level of attraction. For men, we are attracted based on feelings: women have feelings based on attraction. When attraction drops, their feelings drop. They can hate you one day, based on relative attraction, then the next day love you with all their heart. We call this 'fickle', but to a woman this is completely normal.

There is this woman I work with. I am attracted to her, but will not make a move on her or date her because she is in a relationship. Women ALWAYS know instinctively if you are interested in them, so she knows I might otherwise be interested. I can ALWAYS tell when things are not going smooth with her relationship, because she becomes very flirty with me. I'm not doing anything different, but what changes is I suddenly become more attractive to her because what is going on in her life. The next week, everything is back to normal as her relationship improves. It's just the way women are.

Rather than get ticked off about this, accept it and work to maintain her attraction level. Get the attraction level up, and everything fixes itself. But since men come from a different frame, we tend to focus on her emotional response at the moment. When our women is not 'feeling it' anymore, our natural instinct is to try and fix the problem by doing stuff... really all we do at this point is treat the symptom of the problem (her emotional response) rather than the root cause of the problem which is her lowering interest. This is why argueing with women is pointless.

If you want to have a happy life and relationships with women, it is best to find one that is going to be attracted to you based on what you can provide. If at some point you can no longer meet her needs, she becomes a miserable b!tchy nag, or if you are lucky, she just dumps your @ss. Best just move on.

 

[captain55]

You answered your own question. She never had attraction to begin with. So the answer is NO, you can't get girls who are way out of your league to stay with you forever.

Are you seriously wondering why girls who were never that attracted to you don't stay with you that long?

In other words, you prefer hot women who don't like you versus unattractive girls who do? I suspect you want women from a different race?


This is wrong. This is what you want to believe. I exclusively date women who are strongly physically attracted to me. That was Pook's main theme.

Reality says that if they are losing interest, you need to improve yourself, not hypnotise yourself into thinking fat girls are hot. There exist men who these girls you like are attracted to. If girls who YOU like were attracted to YOU, you would like them MORE, not less.

People always want something for nothing. They want to believe they have it all, so they play these games like "I only like women who don't like me, and I don't like the really nice girls who do like me. I'm very handsome, just ask my Aunt". Hit the gym.

I'm well built, well endowed, my height is decent but not great at 5'11, my face is slightly above average. Women think Im handsome but Im not handsome enough to be a male model IMO. Realistically Im probably a 7/10.

You say you can't keep women who are out of your league , well what the **** are we are all on this site for? Getting a woman to sleep with you who is already attracted to you is easy as hell. It's impossible to **** up unless you really are hopeless and have no game whatsoever.

I thought the main reason we came here was to bang, date, and keep women who are out of our league by learning to build attraction through various methods that are in our control (courting,gaming,using challenge, etc)

You can be a ****ing idiot but if a girl is strongly attracted to you she will sleep with you. It's the girls who only find you moderately attractive where game becomes extremely important.

 

[Poon King]

The only time a man should be thinking "long-term" is when it comes to his personal finances, career, health and education. NEVER with women.

Women are not loyal and nothing you do can make them loyal. A woman will always go with the best deal available. If you are the best deal available she will stay with you until you are not. To dedicate your entire life to being the best deal available for ONE woman is retarded and even kind of pathetic.

As a man you should always be looking for the bigger better deal. F*cked a hot girl last night? GOOD.. now f*ck another one. Got a great girl who treats you right? GOOD.. now start looking for a greater one who treats you better. This is the strategy 100% of women use.. which is why women dominate romantic relationships. Women are ready to leave at the drop of a hat. Men cling to women like co-dependent queers... then wonder why she stops respecting him.

Men are never satisfied with their income and always want to make MORE money. So why have a different approach with women? Post age 25 a woman's value steadily declines. She becomes less hot and her attitude less sexy. If you are dating a 25 year old today.. you will be dating a 35 year old in 10 years.

Just like you toss milk after its expiration date and replace it with fresh milk.. you should do the same with women. And you should feel no guilt because 100% of women will leave you the minute her priorities change.

All is fair in love and war. Don't be a pvssy.

 

[Atom Smasher]

No many men understand that they can easily blind a woman and make her see whatever he wants her to see. In other words, the job of a man who gets with a supposedly more physically attractive woman is to blind her to the difference and influence her to see him as the most attractive man on the planet.

It can be done. Learn about the malleability of women's minds. If you want her to believe that the sky is pink with purple polka dots you can do it with a combination of your intent and some time. An extreme example, to be sure, but illustrative of the fact that you can cause your personality and intent to eclipse the physical.

 

[Tictac]

If a woman is addicted to limerence, there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. She will flit from one to another as soon as it begins to fade, never knowing that there is no such thing as permanent infatuation.

So enjoy the ride and eject on your terms and your schedule.

 

[captain55]

No many men understand that they can easily blind a woman and make her see whatever he wants her to see. In other words, the job of a man who gets with a supposedly more physically attractive woman is to blind her to the difference and influence her to see him as the most attractive man on the planet.

It can be done. Learn about the malleability of women's minds. If you want her to believe that the sky is pink with purple polka dots you can do it with a combination of your intent and some time. An extreme example, to be sure, but illustrative of the fact that you can cause your personality and intent to eclipse the physical.

I know for fact it can be done hell I've done it, but I've only been able to maintain it for long. Im not going to lie I have gone from alpha to beta/needy as time went on, and I kick myself for it...., but what I would like to know is if it would of mattered in the first place. At least if there is a strong physical attraction on her end you can get away with quite a bit more.

 

[mugatts]

Physical attraction is not the only reason a woman chooses to be with you. There are other factors such as security, compatibility etc. Feelings change because you are no longer the person she met. Once things get comfortable, you neglect yourself, your friends, your hobbies and become attached. When you sense a loss of interest, you panic and become more needy which comes off as pathetic and desperate. The secret is to not care and let the relationship develop naturally. If a woman's feelings change it should have nothing to do with you. You can voice your concerns if you feel disrespected but if she chooses to leave after 4 months or several years then you accept that and continue living your life.

"When we can no longer change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves"- Viktor Frankl

 

[RangerMIke]

Women are not loyal and nothing you do can make them loyal. A woman will always go with the best deal available. If you are the best deal available she will stay with you until you are not. To dedicate your entire life to being the best deal available for ONE woman is retarded and even kind of pathetic.

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I agree. The only real long term relationship I ever had with a woman was my 10 year marrage... I wouldn't wish that hell on anyone. Since my divorce (8 years ago) I've hooked up with so many women I have honestly lost count. In that time I can count on one hand the number of women I have been with that I'm pretty sure I could make work in a long term relationship (My goals and purpose were completely aligned with her needs).

I know how to make a LTR work, and could have done it with any one of these 4 women, but what's the point? The only LTR I want with women right now are the ones I have with my two daughters. But I know that as soon as some dudes come around that will give them what they want, i'll get pushed on the back-burner. I would die for them, and love them dearly, but they will grow to be women, and will behave as such.

 

[om1xr]

When you are acting needy; you are investing more than her and when that's the case then any woman will lose interest or put you on the deadly friendzone.

Saying that you like the chase is just an excuse to cover the fact that you are needy and desperate for her attention and validation because your ego can't handle it.

Be less invested and you will either get the girl or you will walk away because she not interested in you anyway.

 

[Octogonal]

Is it possible to maintain physical attraction with a girl long term, if she wasn't extremely attracted to you in the first place or will she inevitably lose attraction to you once the chase is over for her?

No. Why would you think that? A woman like that will be long gone even before it got to that point when you don't posses the qualities that she craves.

The only time a man should be thinking "long-term" is when it comes to his personal finances, career, health and education. NEVER with women.

Alpha men of power can have whatever they want long term including women. Alphas make others conform to them including women. Alphas get rid of women once they grow tired of them. Every well known alpha has kept women long term, after he got bored of her, he dumped her for a new woman.

Women are not loyal and nothing you do can make them loyal. A woman will always go with the best deal available. If you are the best deal available she will stay with you until you are not. To dedicate your entire life to being the best deal available for ONE woman is retarded and even kind of pathetic.

False contradicting insecure claim. Alpha men NEVER lose their value to anyone including women. The true Alpha is the best deal among the other beta men. No other man even comes close. The Alpha male will be the dumper, not the dumpee. If you think an Alpha is NOT always the best deal you are a true beta heart. You are speaking from a fear minded mindset afraid of a woman leaving YOU. A true alpha does NOT think that way.

Translation = I am not an alpha with very many qualities, therefore I will lose the woman to another man with better qualities who is the better deal. Very pathetic beta thinking.

As a man you should always be looking for the bigger better deal. F*cked a hot girl last night? GOOD.. now f*ck another one. Got a great girl who treats you right? GOOD.. now start looking for a greater one who treats you better. This is the strategy 100% of women use.. which is why women dominate romantic relationships. Women are ready to leave at the drop of a hat. Men cling to women like co-dependent queers... then wonder why she stops respecting him.

Women will not leave an Alpha because that is what every woman craves. Women leave betas at the top of the hat since betas possess no challenge and qualities that keeps her turned on. Any true Alpha knows this and will have a woman doing whatever he wants. What you are saying is coming out of fear, you are afraid of a woman leaving you for a better deal. No true Alpha in the world has that beta mindset like you.

Alphas are not dependent on anybody. Betas and women are dependent on alphas for guidance and leadership.

Just like you toss milk after its expiration date and replace it with fresh milk.. you should do the same with women. And you should feel no guilt because 100% of women will leave you the minute her priorities change.

More inferior thinking scared of a woman leaving you. An alpha male NEVER bases his decision fearing what a woman might do to him. An alpha male bases his decision on what is best for his own personal satisfaction. As long as the alpha is satisfied, he keeps what he has. When he grows tired of his old toys, he replaces them because he wants to and he can. Not because he fears he is going to lose his objects. Your thinking is base upon fear off loss, the loss of a woman. You are no alpha, alphas do not think that way.

All is fair in love and war. Don't be a pvssy.

Don't think like one either fearing a loss of a woman. Alpha men don't think like that.

 

[Poon King]

Alpha men of power can have whatever they want long term including women. Alphas make others conform to them including women. Alphas get rid of women once they grow tired of them. Every well known alpha has kept women long term, after he got bored of her, he dumped her for a new woman.

Women lose value over time. So why would you want them long-term when you have endless other options?

A 25 year old is a 45 year old 20 years later. Why would a true alpha who can have sexy women in their 20's stay long-term with a woman past her expiration date?

More proof you don't know what alpha even means.

False contradicting insecure claim. Alpha men NEVER lose their value to anyone including women. The true Alpha is the best deal among the other beta men. No other man even comes close. The Alpha male will be the dumper, not the dumpee. If you think an Alpha is NOT always the best deal you are a true beta heart. You are speaking from a fear minded mindset afraid of a woman leaving YOU. A true alpha does NOT think that way.

You sound like a buffoon. Like a nerd talking about Superman or Batman.

Try again.

Translation = I am not an alpha with very many qualities, therefore I will lose the woman to another man with better qualities who is the better deal. Very pathetic beta thinking.

Pointing out the nature of women is not "beta thinking". It is reality.

Stop reading superhero comics and walk outside every once in a while little boy.

Women will not leave an Alpha because that is what every woman craves. Women leave betas at the top of the hat since betas possess no challenge and qualities that keeps her turned on. Any true Alpha knows this and will have a woman doing whatever he wants. What you are saying is coming out of fear, you are afraid of a woman leaving you for a better deal. No true Alpha in the world has that beta mindset like you.

Weak thinking. Do you believe only one alpha exists in the entire world?

If there are 20 alphas.. why can't a woman leave one for another? You sound like a buffoon.

More inferior thinking scared of a woman leaving you. An alpha male NEVER bases his decision fearing what a woman might do to him. An alpha male bases his decision on what is best for his own personal satisfaction. As long as the alpha is satisfied, he keeps what he has. When he grows tired of his old toys, he replaces them because he wants to and he can. Not because he fears he is going to lose his objects. Your thinking is base upon fear off loss, the loss of a woman. You are no alpha, alphas do not think that way.

Living in reality is not "inferior thinking". Neither is pointing out the nature of women.

Wake up from your delusional Batman comic book bubble little boy.

Don't think like one either fearing a loss of a woman. Alpha men don't think like that.

Mature adults don't think like you.

Go outside and get some experience in the real world little boy. You don't know sh!t about sh!t.

 

[mikey2012]

The only time a man should be thinking "long-term" is when it comes to his personal finances, career, health and education. NEVER with women.

Women are not loyal and nothing you do can make them loyal. A woman will always go with the best deal available. If you are the best deal available she will stay with you until you are not. To dedicate your entire life to being the best deal available for ONE woman is retarded and even kind of pathetic.

As a man you should always be looking for the bigger better deal. F*cked a hot girl last night? GOOD.. now f*ck another one. Got a great girl who treats you right? GOOD.. now start looking for a greater one who treats you better. This is the strategy 100% of women use.. which is why women dominate romantic relationships. Women are ready to leave at the drop of a hat. Men cling to women like co-dependent queers... then wonder why she stops respecting him.

Men are never satisfied with their income and always want to make MORE money. So why have a different approach with women? Post age 25 a woman's value steadily declines. She becomes less hot and her attitude less sexy. If you are dating a 25 year old today.. you will be dating a 35 year old in 10 years.

Just like you toss milk after its expiration date and replace it with fresh milk.. you should do the same with women. And you should feel no guilt because 100% of women will leave you the minute her priorities change.

All is fair in love and war. Don't be a pvssy.

+1 rep. It's war.....
True but a lot of ppl are lazy. They get a girl then they don't wanna go out etx coz they think pvssy is on tap. Face it unless you are super rich or good looking .. Going out every week end looking for poon tang is hard work .

 

[Octogonal]

Women lose value over time. So why would you want them long-term when you have endless other options?

Alphas dump women when they lose their value. Alphas always have endless options even in an LTR.

A 25 year old is a 45 year old 20 years later. Why would a true alpha who can have sexy women in their 20's stay long-term with a woman past her expiration date??

:crackup:

No true Alpha does that you KJ idiot.

More proof you don't know what alpha even means.

You think Alphas have no value and get dumped. You are no Alpha.

You sound like a buffoon. Like a nerd talking about Superman or Batman.

Try again.

Pointing out the nature of women is not "beta thinking". It is reality.

Stop reading superhero comics and walk outside every once in a while little boy

It is beta thinking when you fear losing women. Alphas dump and betas get dumped like you. Dude sounds like he is 12 years old.

Weak thinking. Do you believe only one alpha exists in the entire world?

If there are 20 alphas.. why can't a woman leave one for another? You sound like a buffoon.

Women don't leave Alphas. Alphas leave women at their own disposal. You have no idea how that works being a beta KJ internet poster.

Living in reality is not "inferior thinking". Neither is pointing out the nature of women.

Wake up from your delusional Batman comic book bubble little boy.

Whatever you say beta boy. That's reality for you because you are an inferior beta that is expendable to women. Alphas dump women when they want because they have value. Women don't dump Alphas, for they have value. Betas like you fear women dumping you in relationships because you have no value. Women dump beta men like you.

Mature adults don't think like you.

Go outside and get some experience in the real world little boy. You don't know sh!t about sh!t.

Of course they do. No Alpha is afraid of being dumped like you are. You think women dump Alphas. :crackup: That is not knowing sh!t because you are a KJ beta that knows nothing about having value.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Guys please avoid direct name-calling.