Women Lie

[The Duke]

If every relationship was supposed to end when a woman lies, then it wouldn't even last months. If she's wired that way, then every time she opens her mouth, it's a lie.

You are forgetting the reason women lie. As @BeExcellent said, "Lies are generally told to avoid conflict or adverse consequence."

In my 3 examples, these were relationships that lasted several years. They never lied until the end. They were not wired to be liars and it was never a problem until they were concerned about avoiding conflict and saving face.

You can still tell lies in only difficult situations and not be a habitual liar.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Both genders lie. Women are expert Body language tellers so it's much harder to fool a woman. The Best Psychopaths are the best liars and many of them throughout history have been influential people and it shows in the outcome of their many private affairs and relationships.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

People lie. This isn't a male or female thing, it a human thing

 

[jhonny9546]

People lie. This isn't a male or female thing, it a human thing

But not a mature men one?
This is similar to gossip and there is an entire topic on gossip I've made.

Often gossiping is a way to boost a person or a groups status, discrediting others at the eyes of someone. Doing this they convince others that they are better.
They do it mostly to increase their status and get unearned status and resources from the group.

Men gossip with women about other men to remove competition. They know that they can't compete with value so they spread lies.

But when they are in relationship they continue gossiping because these naive stupid women who believe in their lies actually love drama and feeling of power that comes with gossiping and talking bad of others.

Women don't lie. Women LOVE to lie.

The real question is: Are there any sane women out there who realize they are liars and can rationalize that lying or being in a group of people to talk badly about others does not increase their status but actually lowers it?

 

[plumber]

The real question is: Are there any sane women out there who realize they are liars and can rationalize that lying or being in a group of people to talk badly about others does not increase their status but actually lowers it?

yes, but they are in different venue than most of our reader. they are not the ones that catch the attention.

 

[jhonny9546]

they are in different venue than most of our reader

Such as?

they are not the ones that catch the attention.

Hmm this deserve a better explanaition! Interesting!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

But not a mature men one?
This is similar to gossip and there is an entire topic on gossip I've made.

Often gossiping is a way to boost a person or a groups status, discrediting others at the eyes of someone. Doing this they convince others that they are better.
They do it mostly to increase their status and get unearned status and resources from the group.

Men gossip with women about other men to remove competition. They know that they can't compete with value so they spread lies.

But when they are in relationship they continue gossiping because these naive stupid women who believe in their lies actually love drama and feeling of power that comes with gossiping and talking bad of others.

Women don't lie. Women LOVE to lie.

The real question is: Are there any sane women out there who realize they are liars and can rationalize that lying or being in a group of people to talk badly about others does not increase their status but actually lowers it?

Men lie for many reasons

 

[LTG71]

Women......the same ones that wear heels to make themselves look more slender, taller, than they are. They wear push up bras and buy fake t!ts to appear sexier than they are. They wear make up to look younger than they are. They get all sorts of crazy and expensive procedures done to their skin to look youger than they are. They spend hundreds of dollars on hair care.

All this and they have the nerve to say, “I’m looking for a real man…”

 

[The Duke]

But not a mature men one?

Correct! There are many so called "men" out there that I don't exactly see as men.

The real question is: Are there any sane women out there who realize they are liars and can rationalize that lying or being in a group of people to talk badly about others does not increase their status but actually lowers it?

Yes there are. Just not very common. Kind of like real men, they aren't very common either. Especially these days.

 

[plumber]

Hmm this deserve a better explanaition! Interesting!

women that catch attention are usually the ones looking for attention. because healthy men have two heads. its very simple to get the attention of one of them. doing that is a choice. just like being caught by that is a choice.

 

[jhonny9546]

Correct! There are many so called "men" out there that I don't exactly see as men.



Yes there are. Just not very common. Kind of like real men, they aren't very common either. Especially these days.

Also, I think that lying women who have gone after lying men for their LTR, could mature and at some point get sick of these men, and go seeking for the real and mature ones. Can you confirm this?

How do you find that woman or a woman who changed in that way, is also a good question

 

[zekko]

Mostly women (and frankly plenty of men) lie to avoid conflict. It may be a lie that they aren't looking for a place when they are or that they don't feel attraction when they do.

So much of it is conflict aversion. Women generally already know if something is going to cause conflict before they take action. The lie is often the path of least resistance as opposed to telling the truth and inciting a fight.

When you look at it that way, it makes you think that women developed "casual lying" as an evolutionary step to protect themselves. Women depend on their socializing to survive more so than men do. Lying to a man she's not attracted to could spare her some obvious grief, if the guy were to be vindictive. But I've also seen women hide that they were going on an expensive vacation, because they don't to set themselves up as a target - either for robbing them for having wealth, or for having their house burglarized while they're gone.

I've seen women lie to other women about what their plans are, for various reasons. They might be protecting themselves from jealousy (some women get jealous of their female friends), or they may be protecting their reputations. They don't want certain people thinking less of them because they're going on a gambling outing, or whatever.