Women in my generation (21) do not like masculine men. They like prettyboy twink f4ggots

[DEEZEDBRAH]

@OP, I have to add that, most women especially modern women early twenties are on birth control. They are crazy and getting ran through. After they get off it they mate switch.

 

[SW15]

I have to add that, most women especially modern women early twenties are on birth control. They are crazy and getting ran through. After they get off it they mate switch.

Most of the women I have had sex with were on birth control.

You're correct about women getting off birth control mate switching. That's worth a more detailed explanation.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Most of the women I have had sex with were on birth control.

You're correct about women getting off birth control mate switching. That's worth a more detailed explanation.

I don't know the science exactly. Just seen things over the years and I've read some stuff. I am just aware of it. It ****s up their body and mind. It's superb to avoid accidentally on purpose pregnancy. There's definitely going to be a change on vs off.

 

[metalwater]

I don't know the science exactly. Just seen things over the years and I've read some stuff. I am just aware of it. It ****s up their body and mind. It's superb to avoid accidentally on purpose pregnancy. There's definitely going to be a change on vs off.

Most birth control is hormone-based. if it eliminates ovulation then pregnancy is not going to occur.

If you follow a womans cycle, she gets horny the week of ovulation with the actual day of the drop being very different for her than any other day. If you are playing alpha game, this is the day to try to get that girl. on that day she is attracted to a pure power play, Mostly of the physical kind but physiological also.

birth control removes all of this, and she evens out not looking for a strong seed. In this case, she will be attracted to pretty boys, more feminine.

Drop the birth control and the very next month on ovulation time she will be looking for Conan the barbarian or her idea of Alpha. It will be driven from her body not really a choice. This is why so often a couple gets together and even with the girl having good intentions after she goes off birth control to start a family she is soon lusting for a different man. As she approaches her late 20s, this effect will increase dramatically.

A woman on BC is a different person than when she is not on BC.

Before ever committing long term with a woman, switch to condoms or some other physical BC and drop the hormone one. If she still likes you are a winner.

 

[SW15]

I don't know the science exactly. Just seen things over the years and I've read some stuff. I am just aware of it. It ****s up their body and mind. It's superb to avoid accidentally on purpose pregnancy. There's definitely going to be a change on vs off.

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Most birth control is hormone-based. if it eliminates ovulation then pregnancy is not going to occur.

If you follow a womans cycle, she gets horny the week of ovulation with the actual day of the drop being very different for her than any other day. If you are playing alpha game, this is the day to try to get that girl. on that day she is attracted to a pure power play, Mostly of the physical kind but physiological also.

Possessing more alpha like traits is always an advantage over possessing more beta like traits.

When you're doing stranger approaches, either at bars or non-bars venues, you're not going to know who is on birth control vs. who is not on birth control. You're not going to know which women are near or at ovulation, especially with day game. With night game, there are some helping cues with that. Women who make exaggerated movements on dance floors are more likely not to be on birth control and near ovalutation. Skimpier outfits can serve as a cue as to who is DTF, possibly due to a lack of birth control and ovulation.

I have spent a lot of my time in warmer climates, so the skimpier outfits idea is more difficult to apply, especially when doing pickup at non-bar venues. Possibly women who are more DTF wear skimpier shorts at the gym/fitness classes.

Swipe apps take away any ability to judge birth control status. On a swipe app arranged first date, it is going to be challenging to determine birth control and ovulation status, possibly even more so than a stranger approach because you've got perceptions now clouding your judgment based on the interaction from behind an electronic screen.

birth control removes all of this, and she evens out not looking for a strong seed. In this case, she will be attracted to pretty boys, more feminine.

Yes, birth control might be why @Genetic Error made the initial comment about pretty boys and twinks.

A woman on BC is a different person than when she is not on BC.

Drop the birth control and the very next month on ovulation time she will be looking for Conan the barbarian or her idea of Alpha. It will be driven from her body not really a choice. This is why so often a couple gets together and even with the girl having good intentions after she goes off birth control to start a family she is soon lusting for a different man. As she approaches her late 20s, this effect will increase dramatically.

Before ever committing long term with a woman, switch to condoms or some other physical BC and drop the hormone one. If she still likes you are a winner.

Over the years, the majority of my sexual partners have been using birth control at the time I met them. The interaction ceased before their birth control status changed in most cases.

The common path for most men in mid-sized to larger metros AND when dealing with women or with a BA/BS degree or higher is that they meet a woman when she's on birth control. They get the bang, an extended relationship forms, they proposed marriage, and then she goes off birth control either while they're engaged or soon after the wedding day.

The path is similar for men who meet their longer term girlfriends while in college, the relationship survives college graduation, and the couple makes a life together in a new city post college.

I agree with your idea about her going off birth control prior to a long term committment. That can be challenging to make happen in real life.

While I think a change in birth control status can end a relationship and possibly speed up the ending of a relationship, the real thing that ends relationships is the passage of time. Women's preferred mating model is medium term serial monogamy, which looks like monkey branching in the real world. A woman is bound to lose interest over enough time, regardless of her birth control status.

The advantage of being more alpha than beta is that this process slows for an alpha. A man that is more alpha will get a longer term relationship out of a woman before she gets bored. Additionally, a more alpha male becomes more likely to leave the relationship before it gets really bad. With a beta, either a woman will leave sooner due to attraction loss OR she suffers attraction loss but doesn't leave and instead makes his life miserable while he lacks the guts to leave. The relationship becomes a painful experience until one of them comes to the realization that nothing can be done to salvage it and it ends. Usually it is the woman who realizes this.

 

[HaleyBaron]

@SW15 Solid post above there. Said all I would have said. The skimpier dressing is really solid advice. You see a lot of younger girls walking through with those, who tend to not use BC like the much older women do. One girl told me she was wearing no panties at all. She was DTF right there. I don't know if she was on BC or not, but the cues were there.

 

[tanchinos]

Girls have always liked guys who look like DiCaprio and Beiber. That's not a new thing. Look at the male sex symbols from the old days: James Dean, Paul Newman, Sean Connery. None of them were meatheads. And I don't remember any time in history when women were not attracted to men with good hair (even though good hair in not necessarily a "masculine" trait - balding is often sign of high testosterone).

I could see myself having a man crush on DiCaprio in the 90's version of The Man In The Iron Mask- playing a king (and his twin brother)- one is a peacocking and rather corrrupt, the other brave, puppy-eyed and slightly vulnerable after years of imprisonment-perfect fodder for the ladies.

He got Razzie nominated for that role- but of his 2 contemporary movies of 1997/8, I'd take that movie over Titanic

 

[metalwater]

Going Off the Pill Could Affect Who You're Attracted to, Study Finds

New research shows that going off the pill could affect how attracted you are to your mate

time.com

5 Ways Hormonal Birth Control Disrupts Dating | FLO Living

Uncover how hormonal birth control can affect your love life with Flo Living's insightful post. Discover five ways it disrupts dating.

www.floliving.com

The Pill Affects Who You're Attracted To, IE Your Boyfriend May Not Be As Hot As You Think

For years, we've thought of the Pill as a miracle contraceptive for regulating our periods and preventing unwanted pregnancies, but now we have good reason to believe that the Pill affects our attraction to others as well. According to a new study…

www.bustle.com

Birth control pills may affect who you are attracted to

A top psychologist says that the contraceptive pill can significantly affect a woman's brain and change their personality — and previous studies have supported this.

nypost.com

Do Contraceptive Pills Affect Attraction?

Stopping oral contraceptives may enhance the appeal of alternative partners, a recent study concludes.

www.psychologytoday.com

Possessing more alpha like traits is always an advantage over possessing more beta like traits.

When you're doing stranger approaches, either at bars or non-bars venues, you're not going to know who is on birth control vs. who is not on birth control. You're not going to know which women are near or at ovulation, especially with day game. With night game, there are some helping cues with that. Women who make exaggerated movements on dance floors are more likely not to be on birth control and near ovalutation. Skimpier outfits can serve as a cue as to who is DTF, possibly due to a lack of birth control and ovulation.

I have spent a lot of my time in warmer climates, so the skimpier outfits idea is more difficult to apply, especially when doing pickup at non-bar venues. Possibly women who are more DTF wear skimpier shorts at the gym/fitness classes.

Swipe apps take away any ability to judge birth control status. On a swipe app arranged first date, it is going to be challenging to determine birth control and ovulation status, possibly even more so than a stranger approach because you've got perceptions now clouding your judgment based on the interaction from behind an electronic screen.



Yes, birth control might be why @Genetic Error made the initial comment about pretty boys and twinks.



Over the years, the majority of my sexual partners have been using birth control at the time I met them. The interaction ceased before their birth control status changed in most cases.

The common path for most men in mid-sized to larger metros AND when dealing with women or with a BA/BS degree or higher is that they meet a woman when she's on birth control. They get the bang, an extended relationship forms, they proposed marriage, and then she goes off birth control either while they're engaged or soon after the wedding day.

The path is similar for men who meet their longer term girlfriends while in college, the relationship survives college graduation, and the couple makes a life together in a new city post college.

I agree with your idea about her going off birth control prior to a long term committment. That can be challenging to make happen in real life.

While I think a change in birth control status can end a relationship and possibly speed up the ending of a relationship, the real thing that ends relationships is the passage of time. Women's preferred mating model is medium term serial monogamy, which looks like monkey branching in the real world. A woman is bound to lose interest over enough time, regardless of her birth control status.

The advantage of being more alpha than beta is that this process slows for an alpha. A man that is more alpha will get a longer term relationship out of a woman before she gets bored. Additionally, a more alpha male becomes more likely to leave the relationship before it gets really bad. With a beta, either a woman will leave sooner due to attraction loss OR she suffers attraction loss but doesn't leave and instead makes his life miserable while he lacks the guts to leave. The relationship becomes a painful experience until one of them comes to the realization that nothing can be done to salvage it and it ends. Usually it is the woman who realizes this.

good summary. probably the solution for a happy ltr is to transcend the whole beta/alpha thing. both extremes lead to pain. I think all men in any LTR should understand the woman's cycle. takes the mystery out of a lot of the crazy stuff.

 

[SW15]

good summary. probably the solution for a happy ltr is to transcend the whole beta/alpha thing. both extremes lead to pain. I think all men in any LTR should understand the woman's cycle. takes the mystery out of a lot of the crazy stuff.

I like to know a woman's birth control status prior to me sticking my penis in them.

Understanding ovalutory cycles is a good thing but when most women are on birth control, how relevant are they?

 

[metalwater]

I like to know a woman's birth control status prior to me sticking my penis in them.

Understanding ovalutory cycles is a good thing but when most women are on birth control, how relevant are they?

-if she is on BC and she is a new contact. initially, you don't care or it's a good thing. focus is getting a nut, safely if possible...

-if your trying to game her over time and she is not on BC and single or in an LTR with another, knowing this info helps you know when to approach and also explains why she goes hot/cold from one week to the next; timing.

-if she is your LTR and she is not on BC, her cycle tells you huge amounts about your relationship, what she is doing and what she thinks of you. if she is on hormone BC and things are good BEWARE when she goes off. if she never knew you other than when on BC she might desire a different man. doesn't mean your beta or not a man, it means her chemicals are hunting something else. for example, a stronger or different immune system. the point is that it's not all stuff you can control or alpha through. It's ideal to check that out before signing... At least one good BC solution exists that is not a hormone, if it works and she likes it, that can be ideal. Also, beware she might be using BC for other health reasons to balance her mood on purpose or for skincare.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Most birth control is hormone-based. if it eliminates ovulation then pregnancy is not going to occur.

If you follow a womans cycle, she gets horny the week of ovulation with the actual day of the drop being very different for her than any other day. If you are playing alpha game, this is the day to try to get that girl. on that day she is attracted to a pure power play, Mostly of the physical kind but physiological also.

birth control removes all of this, and she evens out not looking for a strong seed. In this case, she will be attracted to pretty boys, more feminine.

Yeah. That mate switching is real. You hit it point blank. It makes a lot of women crazy who are off rip already higher risk for mental health (2:1 men to women, 1/3 women). Added to the mix is their lifestyle choices. Yes we can say they were ignorant. Unaware. Cool story. People are responsible for the choices they make and fail to make.

Drop the birth control and the very next month on ovulation time she will be looking for Conan the barbarian or her idea of Alpha. It will be driven from her body not really a choice. This is why so often a couple gets together and even with the girl having good intentions after she goes off birth control to start a family she is soon lusting for a different man. As she approaches her late 20s, this effect will increase dramatically.

Ironically enough, the options dwindle as the milk goes bad.

A woman on BC is a different person than when she is not on BC.

Before ever committing long term with a woman, switch to condoms or some other physical BC and drop the hormone one. If she still likes you are a winner.

Good post brother.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Going Off the Pill Could Affect Who You're Attracted to, Study Finds

New research shows that going off the pill could affect how attracted you are to your mate

time.com

5 Ways Hormonal Birth Control Disrupts Dating | FLO Living

Uncover how hormonal birth control can affect your love life with Flo Living's insightful post. Discover five ways it disrupts dating.

www.floliving.com

The Pill Affects Who You're Attracted To, IE Your Boyfriend May Not Be As Hot As You Think

For years, we've thought of the Pill as a miracle contraceptive for regulating our periods and preventing unwanted pregnancies, but now we have good reason to believe that the Pill affects our attraction to others as well. According to a new study…

www.bustle.com

Birth control pills may affect who you are attracted to

A top psychologist says that the contraceptive pill can significantly affect a woman's brain and change their personality — and previous studies have supported this.

nypost.com

Do Contraceptive Pills Affect Attraction?

Stopping oral contraceptives may enhance the appeal of alternative partners, a recent study concludes.

www.psychologytoday.com

Possessing more alpha like traits is always an advantage over possessing more beta like traits.

When you're doing stranger approaches, either at bars or non-bars venues, you're not going to know who is on birth control vs. who is not on birth control. You're not going to know which women are near or at ovulation, especially with day game. With night game, there are some helping cues with that. Women who make exaggerated movements on dance floors are more likely not to be on birth control and near ovalutation. Skimpier outfits can serve as a cue as to who is DTF, possibly due to a lack of birth control and ovulation.

I notice it in ostentatious apparel, skimpy dress or any extra. It's still a crap shoot. I found flash game is the best. Work volume. See who is interested and most importantly, compliant. You are spot on about day game.

I approached a college girl. She looked down. Was stiff as a board. She brushed her hair to one side away from her neck and she was flush. Fully blushing. Less experienced man wouldn't have recognized it for what it is. Sexual tension. I acquired digits obviously. First pic she sent was her in bed lulz!

i have spent a lot of my time in warmer climates, so the skimpier outfits idea is more difficult to apply, especially when doing pickup at non-bar venues. Possibly women who are more DTF wear skimpier shorts at the gym/fitness classes.

Agreed. There's no guaranteed play. if I get the double take or girl is eye ****ing it's on. There's more attention *****s now who give IOIs and just want free attention. This is why I run more flash game. Blow me or blow me out. No free attention.

Swipe apps take away any ability to judge birth control status. On a swipe app arranged first date, it is going to be challenging to determine birth control and ovulation status, possibly even more so than a stranger approach because you've got perceptions now clouding your judgment based on the interaction from behind an electronic screen.

I hate that ****. It isn't game. I see OLD as lazy. Again you nailed it. Don't get me wrong. It's 2022. IG is where a lot of fellas pull. Just the catfish is real.

Yes, birth control might be why @Genetic Error made the initial comment about pretty boys and twinks.



Over the years, the majority of my sexual partners have been using birth control at the time I met them. The interaction ceased before their birth control status changed in most cases.

The common path for most men in mid-sized to larger metros AND when dealing with women or with a BA/BS degree or higher is that they meet a woman when she's on birth control. They get the bang, an extended relationship forms, they proposed marriage, and then she goes off birth control either while they're engaged or soon after the wedding day.

The path is similar for men who meet their longer term girlfriends while in college, the relationship survives college graduation, and the couple makes a life together in a new city post college.

Do you think fellas dun goofed by not having acquired back in college? In retrospect, it was a better time. More access. Times changed. It usually doesn't survive graduation especially if you attend different colleges.

i agree with your idea about her going off birth control prior to a long term committment. That can be challenging to make happen in real life.

While I think a change in birth control status can end a relationship and possibly speed up the ending of a relationship, the real thing that ends relationships is the passage of time. Women's preferred mating model is medium term serial monogamy, which looks like monkey branching in the real world. A woman is bound to lose interest over enough time, regardless of her birth control status.

Agreed. I would add, most fellas switch off after getting the girl. I notice it with young blood and men in general. Playboy gets the girl ltr or even marriage. Secs later, it's inactive gym membership, dad bod, gyno, low t, etc. If a dude goes from superman to Clark kunt she's gone. Monkey branching is female nature.

The advantage of being more alpha than beta is that this process slows for an alpha. A man that is more alpha will get a longer term relationship out of a woman before she gets bored. Additionally, a more alpha male becomes more likely to leave the relationship before it gets really bad. With a beta, either a woman will leave sooner due to attraction loss OR she suffers attraction loss but doesn't leave and instead makes his life miserable while he lacks the guts to leave. The relationship becomes a painful experience until one of them comes to the realization that nothing can be done to salvage it and it ends. Usually it is the woman who realizes this.

You said it. The thing we got going is knowledge. The wisdom from life experience. The following will help navigate the way forward.

Even still, it won't end well in the west if following the beaten path. If somebody pulls it off, rest assured they are coming with indoctrination and ****ery for your children.