Women have it better, it's better to hit your prime in your early 20's

[JdelaSilviera]

So much delusion on this thread, where do I even begin.

Now for availability. Never in your life will you be around as many hot girls as you were in college. So many hot girls your age range who are single and just discovering their sexuality, you will never be in that situation again in your entire life. As you get older, you realize that the availability of women you have goes down compared to when you were younger. Most of the attractive women at this point are either married or locked down in LTRs and the ones who are single come with a lot of baggage (kids, divorce, mental problems, etc.).

So it does not get easier when you get older, it gets a lot harder and I see this as a guy hitting his 30s very soon. If you are under 20, get off this forum RIGHT NOW, go out and talk to as many girls as you can and fail all you like. Make friends with as many guys as possible.

Guys, first let me tell you that I'm the first advocating going for younger chicks, I hate older women and even my age. But the point of the thread is that peaking later in life, will bring some extra non-trivial challenges. But of course I know many girls are attracted to and want older guys, and there are many examples out there. Good Gao brings some very important points...

Also guys under 20, hit the gym hard to get into top shape in the next two three years. If you are a greek god while in college, your d*ck will fall off with so much sex...

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Now this of course we can all agree with. I think a lot of us will always regret not being alpha in college.

Ya since there will never be an opportunity to meet as many women again as compared to college

 

[Spence]

Well I have to say that my experience of it is similar to OPs and it really makes me feel terrible given my history.. That said when I was 25 I remember a few 17 year olds hitting on me, but I considered them really too young. 30 and 20 is a much bigger gap.

I've been told I'm too old at 30 so many times now by very early 20s girls it kind of confirms it... and I'm not bad looking and in shape..

 

[JdelaSilviera]

The "saint" type of girls that do everything according to the society best norms will find a 10 year older guy a fossil at that age. Usually you can get the wild ones, who don't give a fvck about what others think, but these are not the majority of course.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Well I have to say that my experience of it is similar to OPs and it really makes me feel terrible given my history.. That said when I was 25 I remember a few 17 year olds hitting on me, but I considered them really too young. 30 and 20 is a much bigger gap.

I've been told I'm too old at 30 so many times now by very early 20s girls it kind of confirms it... and I'm not bad looking and in shape..

Wow crazy

 

[The_411]

Women have an earlier prime because every year they go without having a kid increases the risks of pregnancy and usually by 40 they're SOL. Have you seen 99% of the women when they hit 35? It's not pretty. So while it's great for them to hit their prime early they, excluding rare exceptions, fall over the cliff at 35 whereas men get better with age.

Sure, not every girl, who is 18-25 is going to be interested in guys who are 10+ years older, but it's not like its an extreme rarity. Like anything in dating its a numbers game and part of that is filtering out girls who aren't interested, that way you can work on those who are interested in you irrespective of your age.

Granted some guys look younger than their age so the stigma of age isn't easily identifiable to women.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Women have an earlier prime because every year they go without having a kid increases the risks of pregnancy and usually by 40 they're SOL. Have you seen 99% of the women when they hit 35? It's not pretty. So while it's great for them to hit their prime early they, excluding rare exceptions, fall over the cliff at 35 whereas men get better with age.

Sure, not every girl, who is 18-25 is going to be interested in guys who are 10+ years older, but it's not like its an extreme rarity. Like anything in dating its a numbers game and part of that is filtering out girls who aren't interested, that way you can work on those who are interested in you irrespective of your age.

Granted some guys look younger than their age so the stigma of age isn't easily identifiable to women.

That sounds accurate, but it all comes down to fertility I guess

 

[sambwoy]

Also it exist the social circle problem because even if you may have what it takes to turn on the girl and manage to spend time with her, dont forget that before 25 the opinion of her peers is overwhelming, the sheep mentality of women is strongest the younger they are and hardly a bunch of teenage cvnts would even bother to know you better, you are automatically the old dude trying to bang her friend.

I agree with that. Maybe its the low self-esteem talking (I'm 27), but I can see where you're coming from.

Seriously the late-teens and early-20s sucked. Imagine average-looking, badly-dressed 'you' getting near fatally wounded somehow, and the hottest girls, who are friends with that dvck who put your down and gave you dead arms, are so sheeple they don't bother to call an ambulance. But your parents were like 'C'mon. You'll go out and make new friends. You'll have a great time'. That's what it feels like and that is how I perceived it.

 

[sambwoy]

you think 27-30 is old? :crackup:

looks like you don't get out enough to know bro.

Celebrity magazines and media like MSN are usually the ones who send out mantras and theories about age ('40 is the new 30' etc). And who reads them and buys into them? Often...women.
If they went away and masturbated over the A list celeb who DID have the hottest body, only then it would dawn on them that the whole subject wasn't so important after all. That's why I hate those things. They are dangerously stupid.

Any insecurities in this issue are understandable.

 

[The_411]

That sounds accurate, but it all comes down to fertility I guess

Sure, but medical journals have shown that each a woman ages increases the chances of fertility problems, birth defects, etc, and the relationship between age and problems increases in an asymptotic relationship so that by the time a woman reaches a certain age it's virtually impossible to have a kid or a kid without serious issues. Sure, their are outliers but we're talking about 1 in 10,000 cases or even worse odds.

 

[Poop1337]

Wow this is some sad stuff. Yes women have it easier. Some average girl who isn't fat or old will be able to have sex with and be in a relationship with quality guys no skill required other than spreading her legs. We have ****s, logic, and a joy for life they will never know. If some one told me I could press some button and forever more become some hot young chick who would also think like a hot chick... I would never press that button, even if I could maintain my mans mind I still wouldn't press the button. Funny thing is these same guys who whine women could just spread their legs and get sex anytime are the same ones who refuse to go to hookers. Now I don't want hookers, but the point is you too could get meaningless sex anytime and probably be a lot more satisfied by that sex then they are. Women are increasingly miserable so the fact remains their happiness isn't tied to riding the **** carousel.

I'm 30, I don't look particularly young. I look 30. I'm currently getting laid by a hot college aged girl. A month or two back my younger wingman I met from here who is still in college invited me to a college pool party and yes I was blown away by the concentration of hot young 18 year old girls. He is more used to it, but fck being used to it. You enjoy things including women more the older you get. I got some numbers that night, sadly nothing came of it haha... but the point is no one walked up to me and said hey 30 year old man get out of here. You can put yourself back in high concentrations of young girls, go to the clubs, what ever and get these girls. I like younger girls. I feel 24 is the oldest I'd want to date and really the younger the better. I don't drive a fancy car, I dress like ****, not a bodybuilder yet if you make approaches you will get some good leads and this builds up quick.

Most of the frustrated guys here see a 5 and think she's like a 10. I think 5's are sexy, but I understand they are 5's and there is power in that. Think about it most guys here would be really happy with a girl who just wasn't fat or old and put out and wasn't annoying. Most guys here would be really happy with that. Women are never happy, don't put them up on the pedestal because an ugly women can spread her legs and some guy will fck her while thinking what a dumb ugly slut or some beta ***** will worship her who she will hate. Not a great life.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Wow this is some sad stuff. Yes women have it easier. Some average girl who isn't fat or old will be able to have sex with and be in a relationship with quality guys no skill required other than spreading her legs. We have ****s, logic, and a joy for life they will never know. If some one told me I could press some button and forever more become some hot young chick who would also think like a hot chick... I would never press that button, even if I could maintain my mans mind I still wouldn't press the button. Funny thing is these same guys who whine women could just spread their legs and get sex anytime are the same ones who refuse to go to hookers. Now I don't want hookers, but the point is you too could get meaningless sex anytime and probably be a lot more satisfied by that sex then they are. Women are increasingly miserable so the fact remains their happiness isn't tied to riding the **** carousel.

I'm 30, I don't look particularly young. I look 30. I'm currently getting laid by a hot college aged girl. A month or two back my younger wingman I met from here who is still in college invited me to a college pool party and yes I was blown away by the concentration of hot young 18 year old girls. He is more used to it, but fck being used to it. You enjoy things including women more the older you get. I got some numbers that night, sadly nothing came of it haha... but the point is no one walked up to me and said hey 30 year old man get out of here. You can put yourself back in high concentrations of young girls, go to the clubs, what ever and get these girls. I like younger girls. I feel 24 is the oldest I'd want to date and really the younger the better. I don't drive a fancy car, I dress like ****, not a bodybuilder yet if you make approaches you will get some good leads and this builds up quick.

Most of the frustrated guys here see a 5 and think she's like a 10. I think 5's are sexy, but I understand they are 5's and there is power in that. Think about it most guys here would be really happy with a girl who just wasn't fat or old and put out and wasn't annoying. Most guys here would be really happy with that. Women are never happy, don't put them up on the pedestal because an ugly women can spread her legs and some guy will fck her while thinking what a dumb ugly slut or some beta ***** will worship her who she will hate. Not a great life.

Mainly easier for women when they are young, but comparing/having debates on which gender has it harder/easier is just wasting time and doesn't get anything done so its meaningless but people are entitled to their opinion and i like to feel women have it easier, primarily when they are young and in the initial stages of dating/relationships, getting a hook-up, etc.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

So much delusion on this thread, where do I even begin.

I am hitting my late 20s and I have slowly realized that what OP said is true. The 18-22 year old college girls that are at their peaks will rarely if ever go for guys outside of college, I never saw any top quality girls in college with older guys that weren't in college. You guys have no idea of how college even works, most of these girls are either dating the pretty boy in a well known fraternity or the athlete on the football or basketball team. The gorgeous 20 yr old sorority girl that turns heads everywhere she goes is not going to be dating a 25 year old guy ever, forget 30. Even if you do become rich and are good looking, you won't be able to get these girls because their circles will end them alive for dating an older guy. By the end of college, most of these girls will be married, likely to an athlete or rich frat boy.

Then there is the other thing, you won't get the six figure job most of the time. The average person does not even make near that much in his life, unless you really put in the work in your younger years to get a good education and go to the best graduate programs all the while networking, you won't get the best jobs. The competition for the top jobs like say investment banker, employee at Goldman Sachs, and Surgeon making half a million is insane. By the time you get these jobs you will be burned out physically and settle for the best looking girl that gives you attention.

Now for availability. Never in your life will you be around as many hot girls as you were in college. So many hot girls your age range who are single and just discovering their sexuality, you will never be in that situation again in your entire life. As you get older, you realize that the availability of women you have goes down compared to when you were younger. Most of the attractive women at this point are either married or locked down in LTRs and the ones who are single come with a lot of baggage (kids, divorce, mental problems, etc.).

So it does not get easier when you get older, it gets a lot harder and I see this as a guy hitting his 30s very soon. If you are under 20, get off this forum RIGHT NOW, go out and talk to as many girls as you can and fail all you like. Make friends with as many guys as possible.

Exactly! they must be hitting up trashy in state colleges that will let anybody in or these girls do not go to college. The typical sec girl has a boyfriend coming in to college and either married or with a bf coming out. The other ones are *****s that will **** anything with a penis. My dad makes well over six figures and he only met women at work or on the tennis courts.

 

[asa_don]

Celebrity magazines and media like MSN are usually the ones who send out mantras and theories about age ('40 is the new 30' etc). And who reads them and buys into them? Often...women.
If they went away and masturbated over the A list celeb who DID have the hottest body, only then it would dawn on them that the whole subject wasn't so important after all. That's why I hate those things. They are dangerously stupid.

women will buy into it because that's what the media promotes, doesn't matter, women want what they can't have, if they see a guy they want, they will do anything to get him no matter how older/younger he is.

lots of women want guy who is a few years older, your prime is 27-32, the op is off with his remarks.

Any insecurities in this issue are understandable.

insecurities are not understandable, insecurities limit yourself to flourish in dating, thats why the op and other men haven't had much success or reached their full potential, they whine and b!tch about women having it better, they throw up their hands instead of becoming better, it's never too late to get yourself together where you can flourish with women, also with life itself.

 

[narcissist]

I know that some of you will say: "Stop whining and hit the gym" lol, but I would like to see your thoughts on this,.

First one must remember a post Jaylan did a few months ago, where it showed a 60 yo women, who could get sex with younger dudes easily. So despite the fact that male value may increase with age, the truth of the matter is that women no matter what age they have, will have easier sex.

It also seems to me that in general young women are much happier than young men, of course sometimes their energy and laughs could just be a mask, but overall they seem to me much happier. (Most) young women are always smiling, know lots of people etc. while you tend to see much more dudes who seem to lack energy or are boderline depressed.

There are many factors to be taken into account when it comes to happiness, but the attention/love the opposite sex gives you is for sure, very important.
From 16 till 25/26 most women live a paradise indeed, even average girls often
fvck models. They are young, no responsabilities, and they have all the ingredients to live a happy youth.

Many guys on the other hand, suffer from acne or are ultra skinny till later.
So let's say you start looking good, and be more confident at 24-29. Sure you can still score some young p*ssy, but there will be a few issues. You will have
super hot young girls 17-19 looking at you (especially if you look young and just a few years older), but then they might be scared of your age. And girls in the hotter range, are more difficult to meet, because your social circle barely meets hers. While this wouldn't be a problem a few years earlier.

If you peak even later, let's say in your thirties, the best you will generally have is girls around 26-29, many of them anxious to get married. I'm paying more attention this summer to women bodies and age, and most 26+ women are done, some of them don't even use makeup or sexy dresses to go to clubs almost as they are "retired".

So you are at your peak, but not getting the best women. What's the fun of having an army of fatties (most 26+ women) trying to get a ring from you... also you have a job and many responsibilities now, and it's simply not the same...

And btw, regards nightclub game I have very huge doubts that you can score hot girls as you get older. Older guys just drink at stare for the most part...

You are basing the scale of happiness and the quality of life on these: sex, social popularity

That is why you think women have it better

In reality that is retarded, and you have been socially constructed by western propaganda to believe that is where happiness comes from

In reality sex and social popularity is what will probably bring you the most unhappiness due to its ephemeral nature

change your perspective and you will live a more fulfilled life

 

[Good Gao]

I will start a separate thread about this soon (too tired now) but here is the truth, talking about just men alone.

Say you have two guys: one is some rich frat boy at a big school that attracts the hottest girls from across its state (lets say its UCSB) while another is a rich banker that lives in a big city. Both guys are above average looking and have charisma along with game. No matter how much the banker makes, he will never be in the same league as the rich frat boy. The amount of validation the rich frat boy gets from having hot sorority girls and just hot girls in general talk about him while his "bros" look up to him for guidance is something the banker will never know in his life.

You are a young guy fresh out of high school on your own with friends your age who have nothing to do but be your friends and enjoy college. There you are with your buddies while at a distant you see this gorgeous sorority girl smile at you. Both of you are young, on your own, away from parents, no responsibilities, and experiencing being young. In this community of 18-22 yr olds, you reign supreme and other guys either look up to you while other girls want your ****.

Here is the difference, IT IS OKAY!

It is okay if you **** some hot sorority girl and casually sleep around because awww ur young, it is okay if you party and get wasted because aww you are young, and it is okay if you do silly **** because awwwww you are young.

But no!

Now you are older, you are an "adult" now, and drinking and partying while having casual sex is just frowned upon by the entire society.

"Why did you not get it out of your system in college?" they ask!

"GROW UP!" they say!

"Settle down now!" they command!


Because now when you are 30, have almost hit your peak in looks, have money to play with, and have it all figured out, you don't get to enjoy it. While little miss theta kappa gamma dammit whatever had all the sex she wanted when she was at her peak, you can't have it all now that you are at yours.

Imagine being the doctor, professor, lawyer, or public figure that "sleeps around" here in the USA. Nooooo that's for the college football players, frat boys, and young pop stars.

 

[asa_don]

I will start a separate thread about this soon (too tired now) but here is the truth, talking about just men alone.

Say you have two guys: one is some rich frat boy at a big school that attracts the hottest girls from across its state (lets say its UCSB) while another is a rich banker that lives in a big city. Both guys are above average looking and have charisma along with game. No matter how much the banker makes, he will never be in the same league as the rich frat boy. The amount of validation the rich frat boy gets from having hot sorority girls and just hot girls in general talk about him while his "bros" look up to him for guidance is something the banker will never know in his life.

You are a young guy fresh out of high school on your own with friends your age who have nothing to do but be your friends and enjoy college. There you are with your buddies while at a distant you see this gorgeous sorority girl smile at you. Both of you are young, on your own, away from parents, no responsibilities, and experiencing being young. In this community of 18-22 yr olds, you reign supreme and other guys either look up to you while other girls want your ****.

Here is the difference, IT IS OKAY!

It is okay if you **** some hot sorority girl and casually sleep around because awww ur young, it is okay if you party and get wasted because aww you are young, and it is okay if you do silly **** because awwwww you are young.

But no!

Now you are older, you are an "adult" now, and drinking and partying while having casual sex is just frowned upon by the entire society.

"Why did you not get it out of your system in college?" they ask!

"GROW UP!" they say!

"Settle down now!" they command!


Because now when you are 30, have almost hit your peak in looks, have money to play with, and have it all figured out, you don't get to enjoy it. While little miss theta kappa gamma dammit whatever had all the sex she wanted when she was at her peak, you can't have it all now that you are at yours.

Imagine being the doctor, professor, lawyer, or public figure that "sleeps around" here in the USA. Nooooo that's for the college football players, frat boys, and young pop stars.

:crackup:

i can't believe i'm reading this, what a bunch of stupid sh!t

according to you, a guy at the ripe old age of 22 is washed up and can't get any hot girls after he leaves college. is that it? you can only be in college to get hot pvssy? :crackup:

who cares about the frat boy, there are tons of hot chicks at universities, the frat boy can't fvck all those hot chicks in one night, there's plenty of them around.

who says you need to be banging a college chick? there's hot girls who are out of college, did you know that? girls 22-26 who you can find in bars, clubs, anyplace in between, frat boys aren't banging all of them.

who gives a sh!t about society, you worry about what others say or think?

when you look good, are in great shape, have status, have a great career, you will get hot pvssy for a long time.

i hope you do write a thread because you will be embarrassed after you write it.

you guys are talking like this because you never got your sh!t together when you were in college, you never had any college success, you're living in denial, regret, delusion.

get a reality check, hot women fvck dudes from 27-32 all the time.

stick to your interracial relationship threads, this stuff is way over your head bro

Great career, oh well

you're mocking having a great career? something that you should be striving for having your own personal success? guess aiming for manager at taco bell will get you ahead in life for doing all the things you want to do lol :crackup:

some people in this forum are so out of it, it's not even funny.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

:crackup:

i can't believe i'm reading this, what a bunch of stupid sh!t

according to you, a guy at the ripe old age of 22 is washed up and can't get any hot girls after he leaves college. is that it? you can only be in college to get hot pvssy? :crackup:

who cares about the frat boy, there are tons of hot chicks at universities, the frat boy can't fvck all those hot chicks in one night, there's plenty of them around.

who says you need to be banging a college chick? there's hot girls who are out of college, did you know that? girls 22-26 who you can find in bars, clubs, anyplace in between, frat boys aren't banging all of them.

who gives a sh!t about society, you worry about what others say or think?

when you look good, are in great shape, have status, have a great career, you will get hot pvssy for a long time.

i hope you do write a thread because you will be embarrassed after you write it.

you guys are talking like this because you never got your sh!t together when you were in college, you never had any college success, you're living in denial, regret, delusion.

get a reality check, hot women fvck dudes from 27-32 all the time.

stick to your interracial relationship threads, this stuff is way over your head bro

Great career, oh well

 

[JaegerPilot217]

OP, let me tell you the difference between men and boys.

Boys attempt to adapt to society and care what others think.

Men make society work around them and care little what others think.

The reason why it seems women have it better is because they are passive. Women just sit and stand there and wait for men to approach them...this is EASY.

As men, it is our responsibility to make the move, we approach and we SHOULDN'T wait for any indicators...this is HARD.

Fortunately, once a man knows how to take the initiative and ISN'T afraid when women show initial resistance...he has it A LOT better than any woman.

Women pick from the options handed to them...men make their own options.

Even though it is harder being a man it is a lot more REWARDING.

NEVER EVER be discouraged to go after pvssy NO MATTER wether you're considered attractive....NO MATTER the age (assuming their legal of course).

As men we should ALWAYS be encouraged to go after what we want.

ya but need a certain level of confidence, self-esteem, social-skills and conversation-skills, flirting-skills, interesting life in order to be successful at that, which women don't, ya I know it's like "who cares, we're guys", yes I know that because they play a different card, role, but still, they don't need knowledge