Women Don't Give A Sh!t

[TheWolfMan]

OP hit the nail on the head.

 

[TheWolfMan]

Agree with Royal flush, got rejected by a girl but I still see her every once in a blue moon because her older sister's boyfriend and me are buddies. Anyway she always seems pissed off when she sees me even though she's the one that broke it off, guess she's mad at me for not being what she was looking for like you suggested.

 

[sambwoy]

Women will sh!t on your soul, make you feel guilty, weak, worthless, etc.. to increase their power over you. This creates the low self-esteem that leads to oneitis. The man says to himself --> I'm such a piece of sh!t and this hot girl accepts me!! I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I'll never let her go! I'll follow her into hell! I'll die for her!

All white knights have low self-esteem and feel worthless as men. They get their worth from protecting and serving WOMEN who are Gods /Godessess in their eyes.

Its TRULY pathetic. :trouble:

I really had to think, all the issues brought on this forum made me wonder if I am actually asexual or gay that I am letting it eat me up for a while this much, that I am a drone in life who doesn't get the extra benefits that stereotypically good-looking guys do. I was seeking a therapist recently over this, partly because I wanted to get rid of many past experiences, but secretly it was because I don't think I am desirable to women and therefore feel or fear getting socially excluded or talked down to, and wondered if there is a way out of this mindset.

 

[floydb25]

I really had to think, all the issues brought on this forum made me wonder if I am actually asexual or gay that I am letting it eat me up for a while this much, that I am a drone in life who doesn't get the extra benefits that stereotypically good-looking guys do. I was seeking a therapist recently over this, partly because I wanted to get rid of many past experiences, but secretly it was because I don't think I am desirable to women and therefore feel or fear getting socially excluded or talked down to, and wondered if there is a way out of this mindset.

Hmmmmm... don't assume ANYONE has it easy, doesn't deal with struggles, etc. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Certain guys used to ask "What do you have to be depressed about?", and hint that they wish they had what I did (that is, before they started the bullying, competing, and all-out hating), like I had it SO easy. Wasn't the case at all. Just because women find you attractive and approach, etc, doesn't mean everything in life is grand. Most women are ****, first of all. They still play their crap games, annoy you to death, use / play you, get you caught up in their BS, dump you, cheat on you, have rediculously high standards, etc. They also have their perceptions of who you might be - only to whine, treat you like trash, and act like ****s when that doesn't match reality, and you aren't everything they feel ENTITLED to... just because... This is, AFTER they approach YOU. WTF, indeed. The hot girls are BY FAR the worst, and most damaging. It's definitely NOT all gravy just because they "dig" you. Can actually make you feel quite empty, at times. Plus all the guys talking ****, bullying you, and so forth... like you have it so easy, and need to be torn down and kept "in line" ALL THE TIME - simply so they can remain "above" you... Even if you DON'T CARE.

Just like being social and popular isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's a lot of fake, two-faced, backstabbing faggots who want nothing more than to see you fail. As well as all the status-based, ego-driven competition. Then you have all the cliquey fags and pretenders to deal with. Plus everyone wants to have a hand in your life, so they can judge, define, categorize, compare, and gossip about you. It's all pointless and retarded - just like all the shallow ****s involved.

 

[Tryingtoimprove]

Hmmmmm... don't assume ANYONE has it easy, doesn't deal with struggles, etc. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Certain guys used to ask "What do you have to be depressed about?", and hint that they wish they had what I did (that is, before they started the bullying, competing, and all-out hating), like I had it SO easy. Wasn't the case at all. Just because women find you attractive and approach, etc, doesn't mean everything in life is grand. Most women are ****, first of all. They still play their crap games, annoy you to death, use / play you, get you caught up in their BS, dump you, cheat on you, have rediculously high standards, etc. They also have their perceptions of who you might be - only to whine, treat you like trash, and act like ****s when that doesn't match reality, and you aren't everything they feel ENTITLED to... just because... This is, AFTER they approach YOU. WTF, indeed. The hot girls are BY FAR the worst, and most damaging. It's definitely NOT all gravy just because they "dig" you. Can actually make you feel quite empty, at times. Plus all the guys talking ****, bullying you, and so forth... like you have it so easy, and need to be torn down and kept "in line" ALL THE TIME - simply so they can remain "above" you... Even if you DON'T CARE.

Just like being social and popular isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's a lot of fake, two-faced, backstabbing faggots who want nothing more than to see you fail. As well as all the status-based, ego-driven competition. Then you have all the cliquey fags and pretenders to deal with. Plus everyone wants to have a hand in your life, so they can judge, define, categorize, compare, and gossip about you. It's all pointless and retarded - just like all the shallow ****s involved.

Damn that really hit home Floyd. Especially because I'm good looking but short, it gets you a fair degree of attraction but none of the respect.

 

[floydb25]

Damn that really hit home Floyd. Especially because I'm good looking but short, it gets you a fair degree of attraction but none of the respect.

Word! Honestly, it's best to just go with what works, and who appreciates you... even if it's only women. I was always on the softer side, and got trounced by the "tough" guys. Definitely toughened up since then, and all the other lessons and changes. Don't get bullied or used anymore, 'cause they can't get away with it. Nor do I put myself out there for people to judge and compare... a lot of times, we put ourselves in those positions, 'cause we want respect and approval. Used to be a HUGE attention-wh0ring drama queen, which didn't help anything. Wasn't taken seriously, too flamboyaunt, open, and out-going for the whole world to judge and see, tried befriending everyone with a pulse, never stood up for myself...

Bad news. Best to keep to yourself, and do your own success. F what other people think, and if they like or respect you. Certainly don't be seeking it out, or trying to fit in and tagging along with everyone else. Most of those fags can't attract any women, aren't interesting or likeable, etc. They just gossip with their boyfriends and judge everyone else and tell them how to live their lives - like they actually know anything, and are even worth a **** themselves.

So, yea... no respect needed. Most people are average and miserable... F the crowd; they only hold you back and try to keep you down.

This applies to cliquey women, as well. F them, too.

 

[Jaylan]

I agree with this, generally speaking.

But then, every once in awhile you see something that makes you scratch your head. I know a woman, not the best looking, granted (she's close to my age). Her husband has been dying for close to 15 years now. One operation after another, severely disabled, and she has to provide a lot of nursing care for him.

And yet she has stuck by him throughout. If what is said here is true, she would have abandoned him long ago - Briffault's law and all? Maybe she's simply too insecure to leave him, or maybe she actually is loyal and has strength of conviction. Who can say?

This.

Many guys like OP live in their own little world. They dont want to see that there is some good in women out there. Like many have said, you gotta narrow down what you want, dont settle, and hopefully youll get lucky and find a great woman.

But I wont blame OP for being so jaded and cynical. Im sure hes had some sh!te experiences in life that have influenced these viewpoints of his. I just dont see the purpose of constantly focusing on the negative like he seems to.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Hmmmmm... don't assume ANYONE has it easy, doesn't deal with struggles, etc. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Certain guys used to ask "What do you have to be depressed about?", and hint that they wish they had what I did (that is, before they started the bullying, competing, and all-out hating), like I had it SO easy. Wasn't the case at all. Just because women find you attractive and approach, etc, doesn't mean everything in life is grand. Most women are ****, first of all. They still play their crap games, annoy you to death, use / play you, get you caught up in their BS, dump you, cheat on you, have rediculously high standards, etc. They also have their perceptions of who you might be - only to whine, treat you like trash, and act like ****s when that doesn't match reality, and you aren't everything they feel ENTITLED to... just because... This is, AFTER they approach YOU. WTF, indeed. The hot girls are BY FAR the worst, and most damaging. It's definitely NOT all gravy just because they "dig" you. Can actually make you feel quite empty, at times. Plus all the guys talking ****, bullying you, and so forth... like you have it so easy, and need to be torn down and kept "in line" ALL THE TIME - simply so they can remain "above" you... Even if you DON'T CARE.

Just like being social and popular isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's a lot of fake, two-faced, backstabbing faggots who want nothing more than to see you fail. As well as all the status-based, ego-driven competition. Then you have all the cliquey fags and pretenders to deal with. Plus everyone wants to have a hand in your life, so they can judge, define, categorize, compare, and gossip about you. It's all pointless and retarded - just like all the shallow ****s involved.

Great post!

 

[Korrupt]

Time and time again I keep reading new threads from men who are getting deserted and mistreated by women. The common theme is the women are acting like c*nts or simply losing interest. They friend zone and abandon men left and right with no guilt. Then these idiots turn around and feel sorry for the very women who sh!t on them. :crackup:

One thing I don't get about men is their willingness to be loyal to people unworthy of loyality. Understand this --> Women are not loyal.

Most women want commitment from a man but with no intention of returning that commitment. Women want male underlings they can exploit. They want someone to lean on and fall back on when life gets hard. They want someone to protect them and prop them up. In return for this, they provide sex and affection NOT LOYALTY. This is the social contract.

Most men live in constant fear of losing their woman. Why is this? --> Because deep down.. every man knows women are not loyal and will abandon a man for any selfish reason that suits her if he doesn't "behave himself".

Wake the f*ck up already guys! Is clear as day. Spin f*cking plates and stop chasing your soul mate.

Women act how men SHOULD be acting. Gender roles are reversed. Women don't give a f*ck and men are b!tches.

 

[sambwoy]

Hmmmmm... don't assume ANYONE has it easy, doesn't deal with struggles, etc. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Certain guys used to ask "What do you have to be depressed about?", and hint that they wish they had what I did (that is, before they started the bullying, competing, and all-out hating), like I had it SO easy. Wasn't the case at all. Just because women find you attractive and approach, etc, doesn't mean everything in life is grand. Most women are ****, first of all. They still play their crap games, annoy you to death, use / play you, get you caught up in their BS, dump you, cheat on you, have rediculously high standards, etc. They also have their perceptions of who you might be - only to whine, treat you like trash, and act like ****s when that doesn't match reality, and you aren't everything they feel ENTITLED to... just because... This is, AFTER they approach YOU. WTF, indeed. The hot girls are BY FAR the worst, and most damaging. It's definitely NOT all gravy just because they "dig" you. Can actually make you feel quite empty, at times. Plus all the guys talking ****, bullying you, and so forth... like you have it so easy, and need to be torn down and kept "in line" ALL THE TIME - simply so they can remain "above" you... Even if you DON'T CARE.

Just like being social and popular isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's a lot of fake, two-faced, backstabbing faggots who want nothing more than to see you fail. As well as all the status-based, ego-driven competition. Then you have all the cliquey fags and pretenders to deal with. Plus everyone wants to have a hand in your life, so they can judge, define, categorize, compare, and gossip about you. It's all pointless and retarded - just like all the shallow ****s involved.

You do offer some perspective. You see I have meltdowns most days of the week over this overblown obsession with looks. Society works to a system of morals, laws and ethics, which are then all thrown out the window when we are presented with a good-looking person.

Good-looking talentless people get famous, and have wild times with the 'beautiful people', which upsets the structure of life to get good education and then a great career. I just leave out the part about love outside of family- that's the sole preserve of the 'beautiful people'.

Buff people off the structured reality TV shows call some poor stranger 'ugly', yet they draw the line when someone is mean to THEM? WTF?!

Some days I wanted to kiss my errands up the wall because of how flawed the system is.

Like in a magazine: 'Which A-list celeb has the best looking body?'. Oh F off... just go away have a w&nk then come back and think that's its not as important as you once thought.

I'm not entitled to anything, but how did my expectations get this low?

 

[Crazystarf]

This.
Many guys like OP live in their own little world. They dont want to see that there is some good in women out there. Like many have said, you gotta narrow down what you want, dont settle, and hopefully youll get lucky and find a great woman.

Before you hope, think and act first. Only disappointment comes to those who hope and wait.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

i second this thread's title, with some extra thoughts if i may

true, women don't give a damn... ABOUT GUYS. but they do giva a lot about each other (mostly because of envy / ego boosting), and mostly they only care about themselves.
even when they love their children, they really love themselves because it was born from them.
don't get me wrong, i do not hate women, i love their company, and i do not think they are evil. they are.... different.

men do care about women, mostly because in our society women are the prize. this is why a woman "cannot" rape a man, or a child, she only seduces him(it), when you touch a woman she sues but when she grabs your schlong you should be lucky.

i say both women and men are victims of society.

so now the more practical part. what should men do to not be losers / creeps / AFC etc. i cannot say what you should do, i can only say what works for me.

you should have an ambition, work for success. BUT: socialize! a lot. with both men and women. and one thing women thought me that i value: never socialize down. always upwards or at least with equals.
carrier and social value = women will come automatically. the truth is we need women. we need them bc we are just as sexual as they are, but socially conditioned that women are the prize and we are the needy.

it is bad, but not a tragedy. we can adapt instead of being frustrated and bitter towards women.

building game is like escalating on a date. 2 steps forward 1 step back, adapt and retry. lower your standards until you are comfortable. and work upwards from that point.

these simple rules helped me a lot.

the only loser is that who lets others win. and winning is a psychological state. if you can do something about it, DO IT. if you can't, change perspective.

if you cannot change others, change yourself.

TL;DR: have a career, a hobby, and socialize. and be laid back it will keep you happy.

 

[DonGorgon]

Time and time again I keep reading new threads from men who are getting deserted and mistreated by women. The common theme is the women are acting like c*nts or simply losing interest. They friend zone and abandon men left and right with no guilt. Then these idiots turn around and feel sorry for the very women who sh!t on them. :crackup:

One thing I don't get about men is their willingness to be loyal to people unworthy of loyality. Understand this --> Women are not loyal.

Most women want commitment from a man but with no intention of returning that commitment. Women want male underlings they can exploit. They want someone to lean on and fall back on when life gets hard. They want someone to protect them and prop them up. In return for this, they provide sex and affection NOT LOYALTY. This is the social contract.

Most men live in constant fear of losing their woman. Why is this? --> Because deep down.. every man knows women are not loyal and will abandon a man for any selfish reason that suits her if he doesn't "behave himself".

Wake the f*ck up already guys! Is clear as day. Spin f*cking plates and stop chasing your soul mate.

this is very very real... male desperation dude difficulty finding women is the main issue these days..

 

[nismo-4]

Too many men desperately want to find a princess to pedestalize. Why men want to pedestalize women so bad I'll never understand. :crazy:

I understand why. 2 reasons.

1. Men value love, women love value.

2. Male desperation. These days, it's been turned up past eleven.

Beta males and women have taken over. These princesses became that way because of the way men chase them instead of going ghost and dropping them and rejecting them. Men are easy slaves to pu$$y, well that's when they think with their dix. And that's where there's no talks of golden dik.

Men just can't seem to get the hint when a woman is rejecting them. Stringing a man along, LJBF's, let's take it slow, stop returning calls, they are all rejections! Hell, even being an orbiter is a rejection!

Men wake the f**k up!

 

[sambwoy]

Hmmmmm... don't assume ANYONE has it easy, doesn't deal with struggles, etc. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Certain guys used to ask "What do you have to be depressed about?", and hint that they wish they had what I did (that is, before they started the bullying, competing, and all-out hating), like I had it SO easy. Wasn't the case at all. Just because women find you attractive and approach, etc, doesn't mean everything in life is grand. Most women are ****, first of all. They still play their crap games, annoy you to death, use / play you, get you caught up in their BS, dump you, cheat on you, have rediculously high standards, etc. They also have their perceptions of who you might be - only to whine, treat you like trash, and act like ****s when that doesn't match reality, and you aren't everything they feel ENTITLED to... just because... This is, AFTER they approach YOU. WTF, indeed. The hot girls are BY FAR the worst, and most damaging. It's definitely NOT all gravy just because they "dig" you. Can actually make you feel quite empty, at times. Plus all the guys talking ****, bullying you, and so forth... like you have it so easy, and need to be torn down and kept "in line" ALL THE TIME - simply so they can remain "above" you... Even if you DON'T CARE.

Just like being social and popular isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's a lot of fake, two-faced, backstabbing faggots who want nothing more than to see you fail. As well as all the status-based, ego-driven competition. Then you have all the cliquey fags and pretenders to deal with. Plus everyone wants to have a hand in your life, so they can judge, define, categorize, compare, and gossip about you. It's all pointless and retarded - just like all the shallow ****s involved.

Regarding what I said earlier about the forums, it was the same response. Vent your pain and the response is 'you only have yourself to blame', 'don't be bitter and go blaming pop culture because the girls don't choose you'.
But I am more confident in thinking that there are so many loopholes in blaming yourself, as people, including those round my way are/were morons.
It's not playing the blame game. It's reality.
Its so hard looking for unconditional love or anything fulfilling to look forward to, who is tired of being a drone and still replaying bullying and put-downs in my head, even if at times I'm not sure what that might be, I like to know its there.

 

[CJ 101]

Women by nature are not loyal. As a guy you should be out there approaching and having sex with as many females as you can and if you do end up finding a girl who's good and faithful then good for you but i doubt it. The main thing we as men today should be doing is focusing on making money, approaching and having sex with the most beautiful females out here and living a balanced and fulfilling life.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I understand why. 2 reasons.

1. Men value love, women love value.

2. Male desperation. These days, it's been turned up past eleven.

Beta males and women have taken over. These princesses became that way because of the way men chase them instead of going ghost and dropping them and rejecting them. Men are easy slaves to *****, well that's when they think with their dix. And that's where there's no talks of golden dik.

Men just can't seem to get the hint when a woman is rejecting them. Stringing a man along, LJBF's, let's take it slow, stop returning calls, they are all rejections! Hell, even being an orbiter is a rejection!

Men wake the f**k up!

Very true. The sooner you recognize rejection the faster you can move on to the next one.

 

[betheman]

Jariels thread in MM endorses the message of this thread

 

[CJ 101]

Very true. The sooner you recognize rejection the faster you can move on to the next one.

Spot on.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Women act how men SHOULD be acting. Gender roles are reversed. Women don't give a f*ck and men are b!tches.

EXACTLY. And it needs to stop.

These days the more abusive and c*nty a woman acts.. the more the man grovels at her feet. Instead he should be dumping her like there's no tomorrow and spinning plates.