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Michele l'Arcangelo

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Ok, so you're a feminist male...that's real sweet, dude. But before you go to your next sewing circle to discuss what pigs men are, you may want to read over the meat and potatoes of my post before dodging it by discussing whether or not you have a vagina.
Funny thing:

I'm 17, you're 24.

Grow up and become mature. Not once did I put you down. Besides, my ego is always neutral online... your trying to increase yours by putting mine down.

Good job bro.

00Kevin said:
hahaha

I wonder how many girls he knows that are "just friends".
Same thing I jsut said applies to you aswell.

00Kevin said:
Please list the reasons why women deserve more respect just for being women?

Fact is most women today could use a good slap for the way they act. Not that I would do such a thing (hmm I guess I do have respect for women after all)
Women in general deserve respect. How many times do I have to say that I never said ALL women deserve respect. We all know b.tches don't. That topic is over.

Just because a few women YOU KNOW/SEEN are *****es... DOES NOT mean all women deserve to be treated like sh.t!

Just because I seen 10 b.tches today... doesn't mean I should go to your girlfriend/mom and slap the f.ck out of her

Quit replying with "BUT! BUT! BUT! B.tches don't deserve respect!"

Because I ALREADY covered that... in the thread topc. You just need to read and comprehend.

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robrulesyou on http:// www .sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107199 said:
I don't mean to stick around this forum for long, but I think I have come to some quick conclusions. I just got here the other day and maybe these are generalizations, but it's my 2 cents. I'm not a guy that's ever really put much thought into "attracting" women, but this seems like a good place when you need advice.

Just browsing the main discussion board I can see why so many of you have problems with women:

1) Most of you seem like women-haters. How do you expect to attract women when you are so bitter? I love women. They are fun to tease, play around with. They're not out to get you. Women can be so helpful if you just change the way you think.

2) A lot of you seem to overanalyze stuff. I do that too a little but not for attracting girls. I don't think I ever really 'thought' about how or anything. I think some of what you guys read into here is counter-productive. The best advice is probably just go out and talk to girls. I think I might show this site to my friend though, some of it could help him.

3) This place seems like a cult-like following. You guys all use these weird terminology like "HB," "AFC" etc. You treat it like a science. But it's not. I think the more you complicated you make it, the more complicated it's gonna be.

4) I think a part of why this place is so popular is because its selling lots of guys hope. and some of that is false hope. Yeah, maybe fat guys get laid but doing x + y + z is not going to always give you some consistent result. I think you guys'll be stuck on this site for a while if that's the way you think.

anyway just my opinion. I'm working out an issue w/ my relationship so I'm glad I found this place for my situation. but there doesn't really need to be a site to teach guys how to attract women. We're guys girls naturally like us. It's nature isn't it?
 

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Michele said:
Funny thing:

Women in general deserve respect. How many times do I have to say that I never said ALL women deserve respect. We all know b.tches don't. That topic is over.

Just because a few women YOU KNOW/SEEN are *****es... DOES NOT mean all women deserve to be treated like sh.t!

Just because I seen 10 b.tches today... doesn't mean I should go to your girlfriend/mom and slap the f.ck out of her

Quit replying with "BUT! BUT! BUT! B.tches don't deserve respect!"

Because I ALREADY covered that... in the thread topc. You just need to read and comprehend.

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You didn't answer the question.

Please provide a list of reasons why women deserve respect without having earned it?
 

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00Kevin said:
You didn't answer the question.

Please provide a list of reasons why women deserve respect without having earned it?
hey bro, there's no reason why. And I did cover it before you asked it... but without reasons.

Go to my editted post (above your "list some reasons why" reply). You may have missed it.

And besides, don't ask why, ask why not.

Quit being negative, and be positive.

"Why do they deserve respect?"... Well.. why not?

Deus ex Pianoforte said:
What PLANET are you on, son? "Not once did I put you down." Let's see what we got here:

"as.hole"
"ugly nerd"
"woman-hater"

I know a missed a few, but I ain't going through all your posts right now. Three's enough to expose your outright lie. And since when did "feminist" become a putdown? I mean, I consider it a putdown because feminism is sexism, which is considered an undesirable quality...but your kind usually considers feminism a virtue. If you'll notice, I will never personally attack a user on SoSuave unless attacked first. No, seriously. Find an example where I do. That's right.
Whatev. I notice that you are taking this thread off topic. Please get back on topic and stop trying to make me out to seem bad. I'm just here with my advice. Take it or leave it.

So you're going to leave it? Get off this thread, please. We all aren't the same as you, or each other. So quit trying to persuade people who read this as why I'm wrong.

Some people can take this advice, and it'll work for them. Some people can reject it and be just fine.

If youre doing fine without my advice, great. Glad to hear that.
If someone appreciated the effort of giving advice, great. I'm glad to give my input.
If someone likes what I say, great. I helped someone.

So I'm guessing you are doing fine without my advice, great. But I don't see why you are attacking my thread when ALL I'm doing is trying to help people that can relate.

So once more, PLEASE quit taking this thread off topic.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Because "manipulative" and "game-playing" go hand and hand with the word "woman". Anything else?
It's woman-nature.

So what? I don't hate them for being women. If i wanted women to be more like me... and not play games. I'd be gay.

Fortunately, I love women and their games. Keeps the tension up. Have you not read that post about games?

Women play games unconciously because in human nature... that their way they unconciously choose who is the strongest man... so they can have the best offspring.

Well I'm assuming you hate having a challenge... by having a woman who loves a challenge.

Go for sluts and wh.res then. Get off my thread.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
S'hit, you ARE a chick. That's what, the third time you've implied that the opposing viewpoint must be "gay"? Yeah, it's in a woman's nature to play games. It's in a man's nature to be straightforward. Who deserves respect more? :crackup: That's the SECOND time that I've completely dominated you with my response, and the SECOND time you didn't come up with s'hit to say. I'm still waiting for you to point out a single instance in which I personally attacked you. I have a feeling I'll be waiting for quite some time though, heh.

And nice try being a bada'ss with that "my thread" comment. This whole topic was directed at me, genius. Think before you speak...you'll learn that after you graduate high school. It took me awhile too.

Now. Someone cue the f'ucking justgotowned link.
Funny, I thought i was "winning". Especially since my posts stay on topic.

Bro, if you read all my other threads. I get all riled up and start cussing at people. You... are a dumbass, bro.

But since this is my own thread, I'm staying on topic and staying intelligent.

You are one of those people who go in life and if someone argues with you... you want to beat there ass.

I'm in high school, yeah? So? Am I naive? Nah. Like you said in previous replies. (I think it was you)... you said my advice was too redundant. Which means I'm obviously not naive if everyone else spreads the same advice.

And it is women's nature to 'play games' and men to be 'straight forward' who said one is better than the other? Who's keeping score?

Keeping this "All of them do it so we should hate them" mindset... that kind of sh.t promotes stereotyping and racism.

And why are you saying I'm trying to be a bad.ss by saying get off my thread. Dude, quit over-analying everything I'm saying, and thinking it's meant to be a bad thing.

And dude, I never said you 'personally attacked me' (which you are taking this thread off topic again)

I said you're trying to get off topic by saying I'm a feminine man. And trying to lessen my credibility by saying I'm not who I say I am. I'm sure anyone would consider that as 'putting me down (which is what I said)'.

Think before I speak? Don't worry abou that, bro. I do. That's why everything I'm saying has some intelligence behind it.

But to you... Read before you respond.
 

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just gotta mention how funny it is to see forums replicate society replicate biology....

girl in sosuave and she's hit with a blizzard of responses.
girl in a bar, never see so many guys bumping off each other to get to her.
egg in the uterus and all the urgent squiggling of sperm to get to it.

funny.

anyhoo, she's right (you're right michele)... but the last time we grasped "reality" was before puberty.

sometimes, it is downright necessary to fight our urge to "worship" with hatred. especially for guys to whom success with women is a pipe dream.

you can look on it in economic terms if you want. scarcity breeds demand. something that is in high demand is precious. something that is precious is treasured. pedestalized.

not to say that this is the right thing to do! it is DEATH. but i'm saying that this is WHY IT HAPPENS.

and the degree to which something is desired is the degree to which it is pedestalized. wanna guess how badly guys want to fvck?

your advice is good. it is sound.

but it smacks of someone who doesn't really understand what it feels like to want desperately, no NEED, something you can't have.

god bless you if that describes you and may you ever live in such a manner. but don't treat with contempt those driven mad by poverty.

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ahhhhh....

well, i'll bet a lot of the squigglers thought you were a chick.

anyway, other than the pronouns, my post still says what i want it too...

delta
 

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Good post. I needed someone to remind me that :) . But in certain situations you need to show the whose the boss, and never put up with their bull****.
 

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I said that women give bad advise....but thats true. Women cant pull women. If you ask MOST women for women advice they would say do something "nice".

Try it!

I DONT agree that we should drive women off the forum as they may learn our tricks. Thats just ridiculous. I have had a women know im using pulling tactics on her and it still worked. She spotted my canned opener and said but it was fine.

I think some of our members (mainly the new ones) scream troll when they see a new member....

I think its perthetic.

If you want examples of troll posts then look at DrBeards posts.

Someone saying "Hi im a girl" doesnt mean they are a troll.

Rant over

Sarge On!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dude, how immature can a 24 year old get. I already told you, get off this thread. You're messing up the point of this topic.

And you keep bringing up other **** that doesn't even involve what I said.

What does being a minor have to do with it?

Women are stuck up *****es? What do you *THINK* you are. A bad ass guy whos older than me? Dude. Reality check. It's the ****in internet. Age doesnt matter. It's the ****in advice tht matters.

Get off this thread. I gave you a warning. I'm gonig to ask a moderator to do something about this. I already said 5 or so times for you to stop getting of topic. Get the f.ck outta this thread. You are not welcome on this due to your negativity.

Do not reply to this thread for the LAST TIME.

Peace.
 

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Who else here agrees that I am totally right? He seems to be the only one who is taking it this far. If I can get some people to agree with me. He'll be off this thread for once.

He's jsut trying to play the word game. Saying I'm in high school and my words MUST NOT make sense. Not to mention there are things called typos. Obviously I know how to spell correctly.

Jesus Christ. 24 years old who makes fun of high school kid's advice. As if he's jsut joining middle school.

LOOK! ^^ i spelled it "jsut". I'm a dumb high school kid who gives bad advice... because I spelled 'just' wrong! Now I'm going to go off topic and explain myself for hours why I'm right and his advice sucks!
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You're going to get a Mod to do something about this? About what, dude? Your repeated a'ss-raping in this debate? I've broken no forum rules. Thanks for the last warning though, that was really cute. :)
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Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts."

You are harrassing me... and pretty much being rude... and pretty much tryna start some kind of internet fight.

One more time. Get off this.
 

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Flame war? I'm jsut trying to get someone to get off this thread.

Ooo COOL DUDE! DRUNK! SO COOL! ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU SAID IT OVER THE NET!
 

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Hey whoa, check me out. Yea, I'm about to say something that matters. OMG, right? Its some crazy sh!t, lemme tell ya. Take a look-see:

Women and men aren't so different. We're just on opposite sides of the same coin. We're humans. So don't think of it as "treating women with respect". Its really about "treating people with respect". Women don't deserve any more respect then men. They gave up their extra respect when they decided to be equal. I say we give them what they want, and treat them with the same respect initially as we treat everyone. If a girl is a bytch, then less respect, just as if a guy were to be a complete a$$. If a girl is great, then more respect, just as if a guy was your best friend. Right now, you guys are being complete a$$es, so I have less respect for the both of you. Not that you care.


ZOMG, did you see that?! I made a post that meant something! That's almost unheard of around here. You all should try it sometime. Be a little more civil while you're at it. One of you said it yourself: Its the internet. Why do you let it bother you so much?
 

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Ace of Flames said:
Hey whoa, check me out. Yea, I'm about to say something that matters. OMG, right? Its some crazy sh!t, lemme tell ya. Take a look-see:

Women and men aren't so different. We're just on opposite sides of the same coin. We're humans. So don't think of it as "treating women with respect". Its really about "treating people with respect". Women don't deserve any more respect then men. They gave up their extra respect when they decided to be equal. I say we give them what they want, and treat them with the same respect initially as we treat everyone. If a girl is a bytch, then less respect, just as if a guy were to be a complete a$$. If a girl is great, then more respect, just as if a guy was your best friend. Right now, you guys are being complete a$$es, so I have less respect for the both of you. Not that you care.


ZOMG, did you see that?! I made a post that meant something! That's almost unheard of around here. You all should try it sometime. Be a little more civil while you're at it. One of you said it yourself: Its the internet. Why do you let it bother you so much?
I don't get you. Are you being sarcastic saying my post is useless... and that I'm trying to get attention for starting a new thread giving advice?

I was being civil about it... I started to get pissed off after the middle ofthe 2nd page. He jsut kept trying... and trying to piss me off.

I don't think you read the whole thing.
 

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Nope.

The thread was fine at first.

But you screwed it up by arguing over nothing. Yes, YOU screwed it up. If you were truly a responsible thread owner-creator-guy, you would have stayed out of it. Just put your thoughts out there, and let people say what they will. That's it.

The whole point of giving advice is, you just give it. You don't force it. People will take it if they want, and you'll always have people who don't. Let those people go. Its not a big deal.

If you want to have a big argument with this guy, take it to PM's or something. You're just ruining your own thread with your petty battle over your ego.
 

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Ladies ladies....relax....you can both make love to me....


Sorry...wrong pussie cat b!tch fight.....easy to confuse thow.



(get the point)


Now kiss and make up and shhh please. Your annoying the rest of us.
 

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Michele said:
I was being civil about it... I started to get pissed off after the middle ofthe 2nd page. He jsut kept trying... and trying to piss me off.

I don't think you read the whole thing.
Trust me, I read the whole thing. The whole sad, sad thing.

Lol, you sound like you don't know what to say. "He just kept trying..... and trying to piss me off."

A moment of clarity, maybe? Realizing that you're fighting over stupidness? I hope so. We're supposed to be brothers here. We're all in this together. This is a community, remember?
 

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Man the best players are guys who don't give a damn about the women except in actually attracting them.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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