Women chase losers and could care less about how much money you make

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LOL. No, pretty sure you're not at all patriarchal. Patriarchy, primarily, is an economic model, wherein men have exclusive property rights & inheritance goes through the sons, primarily the first born. That model & locus of control drove a wide set of more enforceable behaviors--none of which are in place today, aside from what you can get women to buy into (Game).
That's not the total extent of the structure. What you had mainly was a push for real masculinity that focused on men being hunters and builders. Women submitted to the men because they didn't have the capacity to hunt/build themselves.


And you're a patriarch? LOL. A patriarch who's disgusted by the girls he's biologically programmed to be attracted to.
Sir, I think if I was biologically programmed to be attracted to little kids (urghh) I would do so lol. A 18 year old girl is a kid to me. I'm 34 in August, that's disgusting. Many times the chick isn't even out of high school yet at 18. Talk about how to catch a predator lol!

And the quality of conversation you can have with a 19 y/o who's attracted to you is pretty much the exact same as you can have with girls of any age
Not even remotely true.

Well, if neither of y'all are happy, he's more biologically successful.
A guy who wastes his youth running up debt, making kids he can't afford, etc., to where by 30 - 35 he's broke with a negative net worth and living off someone else.......is more SUCCESSFUL than a guy that didn't do any of the above, built a career, is now making 6 figures, with a decent net worth, and living in the Suburbs?

And this makes sense in what universe?

And you're out the hood. So when are you going to let go of a mindset that no longer serves its purpose? Are you just going to live a life driven by scarcity & feelings of inferiority, even when that scarcity & inferiority is no longer present in your life?
Once you're homeless, you never forget it. There's always that fear in the back of your mind (no matter if you have $3 million in the bank) that you could go BACK there. Being homeless takes a part of your soul away that never comes back.
 

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If I would have listened to some of the sh*t on here, I'd have lost frame within about 5 minutes. Hell, I probably would never have thought myself good enough to begin with.
You are one most reasonable guy around here, I like your posts
Their main focus is conquering the world.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Wanna conquer me? You are a sociopath, man. People like you never have enough of anything
 

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Lol. Conquering the world is a figure of speech. I mean becoming successful and achieving your purpose. I think everyone knows that. It takes a special case for someone to be offended by that statement to lash out and call someone a sociopath for encouraging people to reach their full potential.

This forum is full of "special cases."
Your purpose is to best everyone in the world? Talking about self esteem issues...
 

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Repped couldnt agree with u more.

I think the only guys who tend to think money matters are the guys who dont have it. They seem to always be blaming something for their lack of success with women.

If you look around, you will easily see that hot women mostly date douchebags, scumbags, drug addicts, and other guys with little or no money. If you look at the truly wealthy and powerful, they almost always have ugly old wives.

If anything, we live in a day and age where women make their own money and dont need men for sustenance like they once did. In todays dating game, looks, fitness, charm, and experience will get you a lot further than wealth with women.
agreed. It isn't about money or anything, but maybe OP is simply BORING. Girls do not want a boring guy, they do not want to sit at a ****ing house, and watch a damn movie (unless they just want to hook up then sure) but they want to go out WITH you, and do FUN stuff with you, to associated the term FUN and EXCITING with YOU. Thus, amplifying her attraction towards you. Who is going to get laid, the guy who takes a girl to a movie or dinner, or the guy who shows the girl a good night of dancing, fun and excitement. Money only helps, don't let it be a crutch.
 

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agreed. It isn't about money or anything, but maybe OP is simply BORING. Girls do not want a boring guy, they do not want to sit at a ****ing house, and watch a damn movie (unless they just want to hook up then sure) but they want to go out WITH you, and do FUN stuff with you, to associated the term FUN and EXCITING with YOU. Thus, amplifying her attraction towards you. Who is going to get laid, the guy who takes a girl to a movie or dinner, or the guy who shows the girl a good night of dancing, fun and excitement. Money only helps, don't let it be a crutch.
There's a difference between being boring and looking boring. I've been able to retain my girlfriend's interest for 3 years while O'Dawg can barely manage to retain a sloot's attention for a month until she hops on another thug c0ck. Yes, I probably do look boring to a typical girl because I don't have tats, dreads, wear wife beaters, drive a pimped out dodge charger with a rims and a bass, obsessed with basketball or football, or don't dress like I'm going to Steeplechase every day. In addition, why are we comparing an average girl's judgments to the ten commandments? Y'all constantly complain about women's actions, but take hold their standards and judgments on par with the words of God. I don't care if some sloot thinks I'm boring from appearance because I want to drive my own life. I would rather be me and attract the few girls I do attract then be some O'Dawg or some fake wannabe frat beer gut broster and attract low minded sloots.
 

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Love this.

Tom was actually my intro to the red pill. I love this guy. He is also right.

Arguing about this topic is fun because deep down we all know MONEY is a major factor in modern life and THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT.
 

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Love this.

Tom was actually my intro to the red pill. I love this guy. He is also right.

Arguing about this topic is fun because deep down we all know MONEY is a major factor in modern life and THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT.
I agree, money is essential to life. However, I hate this idea about money being used as an offense. Money is a DEFENSE, not an offense! I can have 4 million dollars in my bank account right now, but how will women know this unless I'm just flaunting my bank statement on Tinder or in the club? This is why Money is a defense because it doesn't attract women towards you, it helps retain them! An offense is Game, status, living in a good location, looks, a job that gives you access to women, and etc. If you want to attract more women than you need to focus on your OFFENSE!
 

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agreed. It isn't about money or anything, but maybe OP is simply BORING. Girls do not want a boring guy, they do not want to sit at a ****ing house, and watch a damn movie (unless they just want to hook up then sure) but they want to go out WITH you, and do FUN stuff with you, to associated the term FUN and EXCITING with YOU. Thus, amplifying her attraction towards you. Who is going to get laid, the guy who takes a girl to a movie or dinner, or the guy who shows the girl a good night of dancing, fun and excitement. Money only helps, don't let it be a crutch.
Man this conversation is starting to get stupid.
 

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I agree, money is essential to life. However, I hate this idea about money being used as an offense. Money is a DEFENSE, not an offense! I can have 4 million dollars in my bank account right now, but how will women know this unless I'm just flaunting my bank statement on Tinder or in the club? This is why Money is a defense because it doesn't attract women towards you, it helps retain them! An offense is Game, status, living in a good location, looks, a job that gives you access to women, and etc. If you want to attract more women than you need to focus on your OFFENSE!
Bro, listen, money doesn't matter lol. It doesn't bro.

Matter of fact, go into your bank account, withdraw all of your money, and flush it down the toilet.

The shyt is worthless, it doesn't mean anything. Fvck money.
 

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You need money to go out gaming all the time (especially in L.A. or Vegas). You need money to get into the exclusive clubs where all the 10's are at. You need money to have a downtown apartment for logistics. You need money to get into the vip and raise your status among high society people. Basically you need money to be around where all the hot girls are at.
So the "hot girls" in those places have $$$ of their own and great careers, have a lot of doors they can open for you?
 

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You need money to go out gaming all the time (especially in L.A. or Vegas). You need money to get into the exclusive clubs where all the 10's are at. You need money to have a downtown apartment for logistics. You need money to get into the vip and raise your status among high society people. Basically you need money to be around where all the hot girls are at.
I guess logistics is more of a support or defense function now that I think of it. I don't waste my time or money at bars and clubs so you can sort that thing out with other djs lol. According to that, every college guy shouldn't have any trouble getting laid because they live in the prime location to meet women.
 

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The hottest girls I met were probably bartenders...some worked in marketing and sales. And the bartenders were probably in college studying "social media marketing." It was other rich guys that opened doors for me. But if you wanted to be with these guys, it was expensive.

However, the level I was playing the game was on the higher end side. I am certainly not going to encourage anyone to do that. I was just talking in reference to "If I had 4 million in my bank, it still doesn't mean anything." Trust me, I know how to turn 4 million into me being the king of the city. Some guys know how to use money, some guys don't.

In general, just take @Tenacity 's advice and strive to reach middle class-upper middle class.
Are you comparing investing money with women? Stick to the topic please. If I had 4 million dollars suddenly in my bank account, how would girls on Tinder know this?
 

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Sigh. If you can't turn 4 million into getting girls, I'm just going to chalk it up to the fact that you are a trainwreck and nothing can help you.

I have never met anyone who would ask such a silly question.
How about you answer the silly question then?
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You wouldn't even be on tinder.

You'd be in the bahamas, or some island that had hot girls but are poor. You'd be swimming in pvssy. Think outside the box.
I don't want to go to the Bahamas and **** third world women, Quit avoiding the question and answer it lol. You can literally end this money argument right now.
 

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I already did. MOST guys on this forum would leave the country and travel the world and visit tropical islands like the Carribeans and thow boat parties and surround themselves with feminine women with unspeakable beauty who have never heard of feminism before. You might be the only who's like "I just got 4 million. I'm not gonna travel or do anything fun or exciting and just b!tch about how women on tinder wouldn't know I got 4 mill anyway, so money doesn't matter. You know how weird that way of thinking is man? You might be the only one to have those thoughts! That's why this weird thread exists! It is not even an argument. You are just a weirdo (no offense). I've ended this argument by exposing you as a trainwreck.
I don't give a rats **** what you would do with 4 million dollars. I would not waste 4 million dollars on women in the first place. You are trying to convince ME on how 4 million dollars in my bank account will attract more women on Tinder since I have no desire to leave the area I am in.
 

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I never said anything about me trying to convince you how 4 million would get you laid on tinder. That's not even part of my consciousness. I would be ashamed of myself if I ever had a thought like "Gee I just got 4 mill, how do I get laid on tinder?" Hence that's why I called you a weirdo. No sane guy thinks about OLD as soon as soon as he gets a 4 million bank deposit.
In other words, you don't know and keep rolling around the question.
 

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You are missing my point. I am saying I would never EVER in a million years think "How do I get laid on tinder now that I have 4 million in my bank." I am not that weird. That thought process would never occur in my head. And I am sure if you ask other people they would tell you the same things I said. They would say "fvk OLD!"

If I were you I'd quit while you are ahead man. 99% of guys would travel if they suddenly had a 4 million bank deposit. You might be the only human on earth with the thought process "How would women know I have 4 million on tinder? Oh well, I guess money doesn't matter."
I'm not telling you how to use your 4 million dollars. I'm simply asking you how would just having 4 million dollars in my bank account at this moment magically get me more matches on tinder right now.
 

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NOONE would care about tinder if they suddenly had 4 million. Except for you. Which is why you are a weirdo. You think about sh!t no one else would. And then you try to get them to think like you. That's not how it works.

It's like saying how would a boat help me fish in this small pond. Most people would tell you to leave the pond. If you don't leave the pond, that's your fault, not the boat!

So you can't say boats are useless for fishing. The fisherman is retarded and doesn't know where to look for fish.
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