Women chase losers and could care less about how much money you make

[Trainwreck]

Screw the women like guys with money theory. There was this gorgeous girl that asked me for directions in my apartment complex. Later, I saw her with her boyfriend that looked liked the store robber from How to be a Menace to Society. Out of my 24 years on this planet, the girls chasing money theory has never held any water at all. If this was true then Asian men would be killing it in the dating game, but they are seen as the least attractive race of men by most women. Instead, women chase thugs, blue collar white guys, hipsters, dude bro frat boys, and other categories of rebellious men. See the common denominator Y'all? These types of guys are not exactly known for swimming in cash.

I have a decent white collar job, make a decent living, own a nice new sports car, I just signed for an apartment in one of the most affluent zip codes in the state, and I have nice clothes. Yet! the only girl I can pull is my gf. Yes, I know that women do not owe me **** and I am content with my girlfriend right now. However, all my friends in similar economic positions with me are having trouble with women as well. Guess who is not having any trouble with women? My high school dropout friend that is unemployed and homeless.

Lesson to my younger brothers....If you are sitting there waiting till you turn this magical age with this magical job/income for girls to magically stop chasing bums and to chase guys like you.......You are wasting your ******* time! Either learn what these guys are doing to attract women, find a girlfriend, or just focus on yourself.

 

[guru1000]

OP is correct. And this is coming from a guy that likely has the highest net worth in the forum.

I attract the hottest women in the country, but I don't lead with my money foot. But, money a/k/a security will make soldiers out of the women you do attract.

 

[Trump]

Screw the women like guys with money theory. There was this gorgeous girl that asked me for directions in my apartment complex. Later, I saw her with her boyfriend that looked liked the store robber from How to be a Menace to Society. Out of my 24 years on this planet, the girls chasing money theory has never held any water at all. If this was true then Asian men would be killing it in the dating game, but they are seen as the least attractive race of men by most women. Instead, women chase thugs, blue collar white guys, hipsters, dude bro frat boys, and other categories of rebellious men. See the common denominator Y'all? These types of guys are not exactly known for swimming in cash.

I have a decent white collar job, make a decent living, own a nice new sports car, I just signed for an apartment in one of the most affluent zip codes in the state, and I have nice clothes. Yet! the only girl I can pull is my gf. Yes, I know that women do not owe me **** and I am content with my girlfriend right now. However, all my friends in similar economic positions with me are having trouble with women as well. Guess who is not having any trouble with women? My high school dropout friend that is unemployed and homeless.

Lesson to my younger brothers....If you are sitting there waiting till you turn this magical age with this magical job/income for girls to magically stop chasing bums and to chase guys like you.......You are wasting your ******* time! Either learn what these guys are doing to attract women, find a girlfriend, or just focus on yourself.

How many times have I said the same thing? But don't worry, the regulars will come in and totally destroy this theory, thinking their Rolex and Sports Car will make the woman they are chasing fall head over heels. Give me a break.

I have more money I know what to do with. I have spent so much money on worthless stuff because I'm bored. My net worth is high, I cannot get 27+ year old woman to CALL ME BACK.

Money means NOTHING. An extra $250,000, 300,000, 400,000 in your bank account will not make the hot girls suddenly realize you are awesome and come knock on your door begging to be your girlfriend.

Wake up guys. Stop chasing money.

 

[Tenacity]

Screw the women like guys with money theory. There was this gorgeous girl that asked me for directions in my apartment complex. Later, I saw her with her boyfriend that looked liked the store robber from How to be a Menace to Society. Out of my 24 years on this planet, the girls chasing money theory has never held any water at all. If this was true then Asian men would be killing it in the dating game, but they are seen as the least attractive race of men by most women. Instead, women chase thugs, blue collar white guys, hipsters, dude bro frat boys, and other categories of rebellious men. See the common denominator Y'all? These types of guys are not exactly known for swimming in cash.

I have a decent white collar job, make a decent living, own a nice new sports car, I just signed for an apartment in one of the most affluent zip codes in the state, and I have nice clothes. Yet! the only girl I can pull is my gf. Yes, I know that women do not owe me **** and I am content with my girlfriend right now. However, all my friends in similar economic positions with me are having trouble with women as well. Guess who is not having any trouble with women? My high school dropout friend that is unemployed and homeless.

Lesson to my younger brothers....If you are sitting there waiting till you turn this magical age with this magical job/income for girls to magically stop chasing bums and to chase guys like you.......You are wasting your ******* time! Either learn what these guys are doing to attract women, find a girlfriend, or just focus on yourself.

But bro, we are black bruh lol. You know black women are screwed up in the head.

I know black women with PhDs who will date Ol' Dog (my boy from Menace 2 Society) over Barack Obama anyday

 

[Urbanyst]

Screw the women like guys with money theory. There was this gorgeous girl that asked me for directions in my apartment complex. Later, I saw her with her boyfriend that looked liked the store robber from How to be a Menace to Society. Out of my 24 years on this planet, the girls chasing money theory has never held any water at all. If this was true then Asian men would be killing it in the dating game, but they are seen as the least attractive race of men by most women. Instead, women chase thugs, blue collar white guys, hipsters, dude bro frat boys, and other categories of rebellious men. See the common denominator Y'all? These types of guys are not exactly known for swimming in cash.

I have a decent white collar job, make a decent living, own a nice new sports car, I just signed for an apartment in one of the most affluent zip codes in the state, and I have nice clothes. Yet! the only girl I can pull is my gf. Yes, I know that women do not owe me **** and I am content with my girlfriend right now. However, all my friends in similar economic positions with me are having trouble with women as well. Guess who is not having any trouble with women? My high school dropout friend that is unemployed and homeless.

Lesson to my younger brothers....If you are sitting there waiting till you turn this magical age with this magical job/income for girls to magically stop chasing bums and to chase guys like you.......You are wasting your ******* time! Either learn what these guys are doing to attract women, find a girlfriend, or just focus on yourself.

Hahaha. Weak analysis.

*First you are pretending that people here claim MONEY is the only factor. No one ever said money was the only factor (Asian example).

*Second, you ignore the factor of numbers. How many rich men are there compared to attractive women? The ratio is very imbalanced with attractive women outnumbering rich men significantly. So LOTS of women will end up with lesser men. Doesn't mean its that woman's first choice. If I'm rich and I dumb a HOT woman.. she has to find someone else. Do rich men grow on trees? NO

*Third, you act like women are the only one making the decision. CHUMP stuff. Rich men have options.. they actually REJECT many attractive women.

You guys keep forgetting that no one claimed MONEY was the only factor in dating. Not one time. Not ever. So stop using that for your bullsh*t arguments. MONEY is a major factor in pulling HOT women and there is no way around it. Is it the only factor? NO. Is it a major factor? YES.

 

[Krueg]

I agree with this post. Its not always about "money, looks or status." Even though it may give you a edge.. It doesnt matter. Attraction is Attraction, you cannot help it, its just how it is!

Thats where "PUA's" come in. They're always trying to CREATE Interest. If your looking for something serious, the ATTRACTION already has to be there.

“Success= Not being attached to UNINTERESTED women.” and “Failure = Being attached to an UNINTERESTED women.”

 

[Trainwreck]

But bro, we are black bruh lol. You know black women are screwed up in the head.

I know black women with PhDs who will date Ol' Dog (my boy from Menace 2 Society) over Barack Obama anyday

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It was actually a white girl lol. I know what you mean about black women though haha because the very few black women I did come across only dated thugs.

 

[Tenacity]

@Tenacity

Haven't you ever heard of The Rothchilds? The cronies and thugs on wall street? Sociopathic thugs exists in every race and YES women do go for them. It's just that in black culture (and people influenced by black cukture), it is centered around hip hop and being a "baller" through selling drugs, getting a rap career, and making it in the NBA and not exploiting people on wall street.

If black thug culture was centered on exploiting wall street like white thug culture, you will see EVERY black woman going for guys with money.

Women are followers. It just so happens that every other thug culture is centered on exploiting people on a mass scale while black thug culture is centered on small time hustling.

Yeah I agree....it's why I say a lot of women are retarded lol. Guys on here should focus on fixing their looks, their finances and their personality. That will build up their attraction traits and then just play the numbers game.

If a chick doesn't want me because I'm not Ol' Dawg from Menace 2 Society, then fvck it...that's one piece of RAN THROUGH pvssy I'm just not going to get

It was actually a white girl lol. I know what you mean about black women though haha because the very few black women I did come across only dated thugs.

Yeah black women will have 5 kids, from 5 different Ol Dawgs, who are currently locked up in 5 different prisons........on the account of 5 different charges from 5 different counties lmao

 

[Tenacity]

Women DO go for thugs. The only difference is the white wall street thugs, mexican cartels, and asian mafia are millionaires and billionaires and not gang bangers.

Which honestly makes sense lol.

Black women have to be the only retarded female group to worship the broke motherfvcker, while all of the other women are worshipping the rich motherfvcker lol.

 

[Tenacity]

Yeah man when I lived in San francisco, every wealthy guy I knew was a sociopath ala American Psycho. The only difference between them and Tyrone is culture. One culture programs you to go to college and major in alcohol and marketing while pledging at some exclusive fraternity, while another culture programs you to hustle nicks and dimes on the streets.

This is sooooo true.

As you know I've documented my "issues" many times on here, I'm like the black version of American Psycho lmao. I'm getting dates and a.ss, but the difference is that because I'm technically operating "outside of black culture", I get the coon and Uncle Tom label associated with me as well.

I mean it's just retarded, then they want to run around blaming everything on "white supremacy", when they continue to prop up a dumb a.ss thug culture that doesn't generate income for ANYBODY other than large white corporations who distribute hip hop music lol.

 

[Trainwreck]

This is sooooo true.

As you know I've documented my "issues" many times on here, I'm like the black version of American Psycho lmao. I'm getting dates and a.ss, but the difference is that because I'm technically operating "outside of black culture", I get the coon and Uncle Tom label associated with me as well.

I mean it's just retarded, then they want to run around blaming everything on "white supremacy", when they continue to prop up a dumb a.ss thug culture that doesn't generate income for ANYBODY other than large white corporations who distribute hip hop music lol.

I used to give thugs the benefit of the doubt because I am black, but **** them. I had the privilege of living near a university that went out of their way to take inner city students from the impoverished areas of Nashville and Memphis. These kids just bring the hood to the university, dropout after a semester, sell drugs or do whatever till they get evicted out of their cheap apartments, and **** about racism. I did grow up privileged compared to my black brothers, but I was always embarrassed to see my race always at the bottom of everything among my white family members and friends. It makes me sick to my stomach to see people throw away opportunities like this. As a result, I have just accepted the "Rugged Individualist" path for my life.

 

[Trainwreck]

Exactly man. The entire premise of this thread is incomplete. "Women chase losers and do not care about how much money you make" are women who are influenced by hip hop culture.

If you go to Chinatown in Philadelphia and don't have money, women will laugh at you. Every Asian guy drives a Lexus, Beamer, Benz, or Bentley. And all of their chicks look like import models. If you have no money, you have a 0% chance of getting a hot Asian chick in Philly.

If you go to the Italian centered place, all the guys have old money, family run businesses, etc. They practically created down town Philly and most have mafia connections. And their women look like Jersey Shore models.

But if you go to the ghetto parts of Philly, you see HB 10's catching the bus with a guy with his pants sagging so low, you don't know how it's staying on. It's like the twilight zone.

maybe we just get more envious of bums with hot girls and it sticks to us more? Idk, the only rich guys I see with hot women are in James bond movies. Most of the successful men I know are with old women lol.

 

[bigneil]

Screw the women like guys with money theory.

I stopped at "I'm at stupid as-s-hole".

 

[Urbanyst]

A woman without class is not a 10 in my book.

Is it new information that trash women go for trash men? Hot women with CLASS like men with MONEY.

 

[fastlife]

I find it ironic that the users here who are most vocal about the importance of wealth and are most adamant about pushing their ego investments onto other people are also the guys who complain most about market quality and are most opposed to cold approach (and aren't dating 18-21 y/o's since you won't find those at your work or in your social circle and they'll filter you out on OLD because her rational mind would never tell her she would be attracted to a guy 10-15 years older than herself).

I get it that a lot of you guys are in your 30's and have invested the entirety of your adult life in the pursuit of money--and not just for the joy of the pursuit but because you were socially conditioned to think that Money + Success = Pvssy. And it will from time to time, since girls need Provisioning, too (especially by the time you find them at 27 on POF). But you also have to think in terms of Sunk Cost Fallacy. If you aren't living the lifestyle you want, then why TF should any of us feel the need to emulate your life goals or validate those decisions lol.

Don't get me wrong, money is nice, if you're using it to serve you. If you're using it to qualify for girls' desires or to feel good about yourself, well....

A couple questions for the Money/Status guys. In the average hospital, who do you think gets more tail--lead surgeons or male night nurses? In any given bar/restaurant, who gets more tail--the bus boy or the professional guys who come in once a week and leave fat tips and get excited cause a girl agrees to give him her number & take her out to lunch. In a strip club, who gets more tail--the bouncer or the guy throwing stacks or buying her a smart phone or cosigning her car because of some sob story? Have none of you ever fvcked a female superior at any job ever? If so, how is this possible? Finally, at what point in presex convo with an 18-21 does your line of work even come up? Hint--it doesn't unless you're so boring she is stuck in a logical head space. If it does come up, who is she that you need to even give her a real glimpse into your life?

Now I agree with @guru1000 that wealth is generally pretty important to holding frame in a LTR. But even then, it's less essential than giving her strong emotional reactions.

But as far as getting her in your frame to begin with (i.e. Attraction), BEHAVIOR IS EVERYTHING. Objective status means nothing; status without actions that convey high status, and you're still going home holding your **** and complaining that girls only go for losers. Actions that convey high status (or even a total disregard for social hiearchy's in general), and it doesn't matter if you bring her back to the biggest sh1t hole apartment in the world. She'll rationalize any given set of facts to fit her impression of you. Oh, well, yeah, he rides a garbage truck but he recorded a mixtapes 2 years ago--he's just artistic lol.

It's not rocket science. It's consistent & predictable. Of course, you could also swing for 25-27 y/o who are all looking to settle down and compare the utilitarian pros/cons of their respective husbands with their friends--those girls will fvck you for access to your status. Have fun, if that's your thing.

 

[Tenacity]

I find it ironic that the users here who are most vocal about the importance of wealth and are most adamant about pushing their ego investments onto other people are also the guys who complain most about market quality

Yes, because most of us are patriarchal men. We are natural leaders. Naturally masculine. We blaze our own trail. We build our own ship and expect a woman to JOIN us on it.

In that regard we are very old-school, as the new market has women looking to dominate men and men running around saying power, money, and influence doesn't mean shyt because a dominant/feminist female (who is seeking power) is fvcking them (because they don't threaten her power ploy).

........and aren't dating 18-21 y/o's

Dude I'll be 34 in August, I'm not dating anybody that young. 24 or 25 is the youngest it's going for me. 18 - 21 is kind of sick and plus, what kind of conversation am I supposed to have with a 19 year old? That's disgusting lol.

I get it that a lot of you guys are in your 30's and have invested the entirety of your adult life in the pursuit of money

I'm glad you used the word "invested" because that's exactly what it was....an investment, that's paying off today. Compare this to guys who "waste" their youth and end up knocking up one or multiple chicks, being saddled with child support and other related bills?

--and not just for the joy of the pursuit but because you were socially conditioned to think that Money + Success = Pvssy.

Another strawman.

Tenacity focused hard on making money so I could get my black a.ss out of the ghetto/hood/homeless situation I was in. PVSSY was the farthest from my mind.

A couple questions for the Money/Status guys. In the average hospital, who do you think gets more tail--lead surgeons or male night nurses? In any given bar/restaurant, who gets more tail--the bus boy or the professional guys who come in once a week and leave fat tips and get excited cause a girl agrees to give him her number & take her out to lunch. In a strip club, who gets more tail--the bouncer or the guy throwing stacks or buying her a smart phone or cosigning her car because of some sob story?

Sir I can't answer these questions, too many variables will determine the answer. You seem to still be trying to make the argument that us "Mad Money" guys are saying MONEY is the only thing that matters. We are NOT saying that. Since I've been on Sosuave, I have been saying Looks, Finances, and Personality are what guys need to fix.

Have none of you ever fvcked a female superior at any job ever?

When I was coming up in my early 20's I played around with some females at my job (staff and managers). But would I do that shyt today? In my professional career? HELL NO. Never, ever, mix personal relationships like that with your business/career.

........ it doesn't matter if you bring her back to the biggest sh1t hole apartment in the world. She'll rationalize any given set of facts to fit her impression of you. Oh, well, yeah, he rides a garbage truck but he recorded a mixtapes 2 years ago--he's just artistic lol.

Which further proves my point that most women of today's market are retarded lol. Only a retarded bytch would make such a rationalization and only a retarded bytch would entertain a grown a.ss man who is a bum.

 

[Tenacity]

I went from being homeless for two years to living in a halfway house with no job and had a 35 yearold woman picking me up in her Mercedes and a 19 yearold picking me up for dates to.

Sir, you are a woman's subordinate, I already told you this. Remember that THREAD you made not too long ago about the chick you are mooching off of, potentially thinking about kicking you out?

If she kicks you out on the street, you have no home, no car, and nothing to go to. And you are up here promoting this as some ultimate "Don Juan" shyt lol? I don't want to be in your situation and no other guy should either....

 

[SteR]

You guys aren't looking at this correctly: You're comparing apples and oranges.

Take an average guy, he may have moderate success with women. Take that same guy and make him a millionaire and then see what happens.

You can't say either you become wealthy or you become good looking and good at game - they're not mutually exclusive. You should be expanding in all directions ie. working on looks, game, dress, fitness, wealth yada yada.. you don't have to pick one or the other.

This seems to be a cyclical topic on these forums: "You can't just be wealthy and expect to get hot women", "You can't just be good looking and expect to get hot women", "You can't just have a six pack and expect to get women" etc. You don't just pick one attribute and expect to gain success just from that.. it's about the combined package.

 

[Infern0]

Ive said this before but i got heat from a couple of dudes who probably focus on their well paying jobs as their main source of value.

Obviously being a straight bum who can't pay his bills is going to seriously damage your chances of keeping a high quality woman around.

But once you are past "comfortable" its diminishing returns and maybe you should start looking at other areas like tour personality, physique etc.

 

[SteR]

No one does better than college age guys who know the game, broke or not.

Er, I'd say fame trumps everything for men..