Women are so confusing...

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What does it mean when a girl starts crying and asks you "please don't try and hook up with me, I only have 2 friends in my life right now and I really need you".

Meanwhile shes giving 100's of tests and even telling me I pass all the tests which I laugh off like its stupid that she even tests me.

Then later shes grabbing my crotch (In a playful way) and when I finally say goodbye i've got to go she gives me a hug that nearly cuts off my circulation!

The whole time she says she doesnt want to hookup (which I told her I dont want to hook up with her so its cool but i kinda really do) but everything she does seems to mean she does want to hook up.

The reason she gives for not wanting to hook up (No I did not ask!) is that "she cant be with a guy unless she absolutely knows shes not going to cheat on him".

This kinda says to me she wants a test drive before she actually buys the car which is fine but how the hell do I approach giving her a test drive when she asks me to "please not try and hookup with her" ?

Women can be so damn confusing sometimes
 

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She's a tease and she does little things like "grab at your crotch" so you'll stay around and listen to her problems and give her driving lessons. You are so deep in the "friend zone" it's not funny.

If you're OK being "just friends" with her, then keep doing what you're doing. If you're sitting there thinking eventually she'll "come around" and want to hook up with you, you're deluding yourself.

She's already made it clear she doesn't want to hook up with you. Don't waste your time doing her favors...you'll just be more of a chump.
 

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There is but one solution in decoding the mixed messages that women give off. That is, and it has been said hundreds of times in this forum, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT SHE SAYS, BUT WHAT SHE DOES. On other words, actions speak louder than words.

You case is no exception. It is obvious that this girl wants you in spite of what she is telling you. Grabbing your crotch? You have a definite green light there. ;)
 

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Originally posted by BigDummy
The reason she gives for not wanting to hook up (No I did not ask!) is that "she cant be with a guy unless she absolutely knows shes not going to cheat on him".
WTF?! I know this is your first post, but this is just plain common sense. If you want to borrow trouble, just keep right on.. She may be dumb, but she's NOT stupid. 180° - Start walking..
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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For those kinds of girl I give them the 3 I's: Insecure, Immature, and Insignificant.

Insecure: she is insecure because she doesn't know what to do. She doesn't know if she wants you or not... but even worse she thinks she might cheat on you? WTF, Take it as a lesson and become a better DJ.

Immature: Lemme tell you right off the bat, when a girl is insecure most of the time its because she's immature, doesn't know what she wants and her life is just based upon her current situation.. if she was a male then she would be considered dreadfully AFC.

Insignificant: Dude, look at yourself. You've found this site which will do you wonders! Forget this girl, you don't need her!
 

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So the majority of people seem to think I should walk away because shes "trouble". I know shes trouble but the problem is I kind of have this connection with her where I can look at her and know what shes thinking and she knows what im thinking at the same time. I've only ever had this conection iwth one other person in my life and it was with a guy and this guy is my best friend because of it.

I've never felt that connection with a girl EVER! and its really hard to just walk away from that, I know I should walk away and I want to walk away but that connection is a very rare thing to find and it makes it hard to walk away.

I'm so confused I really do want to hook up with this girl and I feel like she really does want to hook up with me but it's a difficult situation because this isn't the typical girl thats so easy to walk away from. I know shes trouble and I know I should walk away but the connection thing keeps my interest very high.

Still so very confused...
 

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Then pull all the bullsh*t and take what you want. And if she doesn't want to give it to you, then leave.

Be in control, be confident, be sexual, and be a MAN. And above all, don't be afraid to walk.
 

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OK your right...it's gonna be hard though because me and her are really good friends and that connection thing makes it realy hard to let go which is why I never tried anythig before because I didnt want to **** things up. It's almost like I'd rather be freinds than risk losing her altogethor by putting the moves on her.

I know this all sounds really corny and it is to an extent but i've been through a few girls in my lifetime and never found one that I had this conection with...did'nt ever think i'd find one either and now that I have I'm just confused about what to do. I know shes a player and she knows I know shes a player because we've laughed about it before. I've done things to piss her off and shes done things too piss me off yet we're still freinds but it's hard to be a frickin friend when you care o much about someone!

Goddamit! it pisses me off no girl has ever got to me like this before, not even highschool **** LMAO...Ugh!
 

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Originally posted by BigDummy
OK your right...it's gonna be hard though because me and her are really good friends and that connection thing makes it realy hard to let go which is why I never tried anythig before because I didnt want to **** things up. It's almost like I'd rather be freinds than risk losing her altogethor by putting the moves on her.

I know this all sounds really corny and it is to an extent but i've been through a few girls in my lifetime and never found one that I had this conection with...did'nt ever think i'd find one either and now that I have I'm just confused about what to do. I know shes a player and she knows I know shes a player because we've laughed about it before. I've done things to piss her off and shes done things too piss me off yet we're still freinds but it's hard to be a frickin friend when you care o much about someone!

Goddamit! it pisses me off no girl has ever got to me like this before, not even highschool **** LMAO...Ugh!
You need to figure out whether you want to be her FRIEND or her LOVER. You can't be both. Not saying women's lovers can't also be their friends, but you're a different kind of friend at that point. Even a "f**k buddy" is different from a "good friend."

Personally, I'd say you're WAY too hung up on her. Are you sure you're in control of your feelings? Can you walk away if you want to?
 

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Yea I am way to hung up on her for sure LOL, I can walk away but I dont want to...

Theres more too this whole thing I walked away once already and she tracked me down and dragged me back into this whole thing again...I figured shed be more serious this time but shes obviously still playing her games.

Next time I see her I think i'll start with the kissing thing and if she freaks out I'll hit her with a line like so "Miss casual sex is freakin out over a freindly little kiss thats pretty funny" at least that way I can leave without feeling like an idiot and I wont have to wonder WTF she really means :p

Thanks for the advice!
 

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LOL I haven't called her yet but she just emailed me saying she wanted to let me know she was back from her trip and wanted to know how I was doing.

I replied with Then why dont you just call me you freak LOL, It's nice to know your thinking about me though...

Too AFC'ish?

I know this girl is trouble but we really connect and it kills me, I'm a very competitive person and I hate to lose so I almost feel obligated to hookup with her just so i can win the game and still be the man because I pretty much ****ed up the game the last time I was with her before I walked away but obviously i'm doing something right now...she seems to have high IL unless shes just trying to turn me back into the wuss I used to be...
 

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Yea in the dating game I do to an extent, but i'm getting alot better at it.

I'm also a very sarcastic person...
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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One word: NEEDY
 

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It means she has no self-esteem and she's got more snakes in her head than a reptile zoo.

Jesus, why are you not running towards the nearest exit?

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Your not being the challenge, she is. You shouldn't be working for her. She should be putting the effort into winning you. She pulls you back in just so she can play games with you. She puts her self back in control of the relationship. She loves this. She knows your completive, and you like her. She knows that playing games with you. You will continue to try for her. This builds her ego a lot. You never quite get there, because she's the one with the foot on the break.

Remember...AFC isn't the way to go. Your self esteem is at stake, weather your aware of it or not.
 

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GigaloDJ, dude she sounds like an attention w**** who will never pay.

I agree with Hilowjack above. Find Ten Other Women bruh.
 

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Thanks for putting things in perspective guys.

Don't know if im gonna walk but most of this all makes sense now...especially the part about being a challenge.

I ended up unsending that email then calling her to ***** her out for sending me an email instead of calling me (Playfully because I really didnt give a fvck LOL)

Then told her I had to go she called back 15 minutes later asking me to come down tonight. I told her I wasnt coming down unless she made me dinner and she said that if that was the only way to get me down there she would. I know she doesnt have the money to buy the food right now so I was really surprised she agreed to this.

Dont know if im going to go down there tonight or not tho, I told her to call me back before she started dinner (so that I could bail out if I decided too and to also give her the chance to bail out).

I figure if shes just playing games she wont call back...

Playing with fire is so much fun :D
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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