women are depserate for alpha men

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Desdinova said:
Something that I've been noticing more and more.... The current generation of young adult women (the tail end of Gen Y) are extremely starved for confident and masculine men. Can you blame them? LOOK at the "metrosexual" men in their early 20s who are in the dating scene.

I've been seeing it more and more; women in their early 20s are going for much older men and staying with them. An AFC in his mid-30s is going to be more 'alpha' than an AFC in his early 20s.

Women in their early 20s have been showing extreme interest in me. My best friend is seeing the same thing... his last GF was 19. I have a 23 year old female friend who's with someone my age. My GF is 21 and has never been with a guy longer than 6 months (we're in our 7th) and is absolutely crazy about me
Masculinity is generally fvcked for men at the end of Gen Y and in Gen Z. My guess is it was ruined by the Emo movement, accompanied by feminism.
there is a lot of truth to this. you have a bunch of very feminine women and a bunch of effeminate men who are afraid to disagree or piss off a woman.


Most recently in my work situation I see guys who are in more of a position of "power" pull more easily....even if it is from the work pool of women...they still pull way more easily than the average worker.

This particular job I came into telling all my superiors and people (guys and girls) that I've done this type of work before and I've even run the machinery at previous jobs...well, not many believed me and coincidentally I don't get a TON of play.

At this previous job the second I got promoted and had my own small little crew to direct, I began to pull sooooo easily....in hindsight I recognize it's not a good idea.

Anyhoo, this week we get in a temp from my previous job who I used to be in charge of. She's immidiately super friendly to me and all smiles, she knows what I'm capable of and remembers me in a position of power over her. It's ridiculous what that kind of thing does to girls.

I gurantee once I get promoted here the same quality of girls that are giving me cold exteriors will automatically open up towards me. And in that time I will not have gotten any better lookin.
a nd this right here is why no matter how many times a man will tell another man to never dip his pen in the company ink, there will always be a man going back to staples to buy more pens.

the 800 pound gorilla in the room when dealing with women/work is that for a lot of guys it's the only place they are remotely alphaish. so they will justfiy that **** utnil the cows come home. "oh it's not that big of a deal as long as you do "X or Y" it's like a druggie telling you it's cool becauyse he only does it on the weekend not during the week. it's not going to "get him" like it got you or someone else beucase he isn't goign to amke "that mistake" not realizing that the forrest of the situtations that he is bending over to justify his need to only deal with this pool of women becuase this is the only place he has control.

when i had my computer company and we had our office and we had what like 5 or 6 women and all but one of them were what i would deem fvckable and there is little odubt in my mind ic ould have at any point slept with all but maybe one of them and probably even her if i put forth any real effort. for no other real reason than that i was their boss and i was somewhat handsome. every little thing i did personally they just gobbled up. i'd have a girl bring me lunch and they would all gossip is that my GF or what not, i'd stop by work on my day off in my street clothes and they would all look at me and just talk to each other, they didn't know **** about me personally. no game no nothing. i did not reconize it then but i do now.

lucky for me i had a little game at the time and had a steady plate of women outside of work. lol my business partner on the other hand lol, i had to go pick him up from outside his sectary's apartment when he was stalking her because he knew she had a date that night with someone else lol.
 

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I had a woman yesterday overhear me practicing my French, German, Dutch, or Russian, i forget which, out loud. I'm studying several. She then walks over to me, grabs me by the arm and asks me to help her move a table. Of course, I obliged because she was good-looking. I may end up banging her some time this year. I already have plans with a Russian chick I fvcked around new years, for this weekend. All other girls have been put on hold. Some think that I will call them for sure (like most guys would) because they've responded so favorably to my interest in them, but the best pvssy takes precedence. i put them in backup status, but I am 99% certain that I will not need them. The nice 70+ degree Spring weather is making it so easy.

So, have options, alpha or not. When you can't decide a direction to take, you are lost. Start with the worst po0n, hold your nose and fvck it, and work your way up to where you're fvckin 7s, 8s, or 9s, even. You must always be fvckin though, cause women can sense that you are, especially coming fresh off the weekend. When you're taggin it, your mannerisms begin to naturally resemble a satisfied jovial fella, who may stumble here and there, but is always viewed as someone women like to touch, and touch often.
 

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Just to clarify I used to do this at my old previous job, luckily it never bit me in the butt.

I haven't partaken of the low hanging fruit this time around and don't plan on it even after I get promoted, with some of the more challenging opportunities...once they open up.

I'm totally aware of how my ego wants to justify it because I know I'm not near as "alpha" in social instances outside of work. I recognize it for what it is and I don't partake for that reason. It's just an interesting dynamic to sit back and watch.

I've had girls go from sneering at me to batting their eyes at me and the only thing that has changed is my position in the company and my direct influence/power over them.
 

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To be "alpha" means that you are the "leader" in a group of other males.....I guess it makes sense that a woman would be attracted to a leader because females have a strong survival instinct which manifests itself through latching on to a man who has demonstrated through their competitive nature that they will provide security for them . However, I bet I bang more hot chicks than alot of "alpha" guys, and I don't consider myself "alpha" at all.......Nor do I consider myself a "beta" either.
I follow my passions in life and do not concern myself with a "position". If I am passionate about my job. then my work will reflect that and I will be promoted over other males and become "alpha" at work through promotion. However, maybe someone I manage at work could kick my ass in a fight...How "alpha" am I then ?
If I am passionate about Karate, I will improve enough to where I might be asked to teach others, which means that I will be the leader of that Karate pack, but one of my students might be my boss at work......
There's too many variables in the modern world to consider someone truly alpha.......Certainly not a criminal who lands a nutjob lawyer in some twisted Oedpian saga
 

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interesting post about "situational alphas" BB... I agree

I suppose there's something to be said about which world girls are attracted to, which defines what kind of alpha they want
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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I'm honestly about to the point where I think the term "alpha" has lost all value. The pickup community has watered down the meaning of the word so much that it's become basically meaningless.

Rubirosa said:
To be "alpha" means that you are the "leader" in a group of other males
This is what an alpha male literally is. Either the leader as in the boss of a company or leader of a social group. Or the top dominant male, maybe like the biggest baddest guy in the bar who can beat up any guy who challenges him.

But if you read this forum you may come to the conclusion that an alpha male is any number of things:

"An alpha male is a confident male". Any confident male is an alpha. Must be a lot of alpha males running around.

"I'm an alpha male because I think I am" (legend in his own mind).

"I've read a pickup forum, therefore I'm an alpha male". Because I know the secrets of the "matrix" and therefore I am better than any guy in "normal" life.

"A man who dominates women is an alpha male". No, any normal man can and should dominate any woman. This is the way it used to be in years and centuries past. Apparently this generation of men has been raised to be a bunch of pvssies.

"A man who is good with women is an alpha male". No, an alpha male is not defined by how he is with women. Women's attraction to him is a result of his alpha position, not the defining characteristic.
 

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i sawer this Young thing heavily flirting with a dude I do business with this week. This guy is definitely a capital B Bully. He even bullies me, but I let him know through my eye contact that I'd kill his fvckin as5 if it ever came down to it, a fight. Now, he's married with children, and this Young, prob freshman in college subordinate worker (he's the only manager of his area), is asking about his wife and him, him saying, "No, we're not having any more children...(blah, blah)." The weather is perfect and she's totally spell-bound to his position not only over everybody in his area, but his rep as a brawler, and quite frankly, As5hole to just about Everyone, I mean, the dude needs to lighten up, but he mentally a D!ck, wanting to Fight with everyone, AND he doesn't want to DO any work, he's always trying to get Me to do something extra for him and I'm not even affiliated with him (I'm with a separate company and can basically tell him to go jump off a cliff, I ain't doing that for you - this is how we almost got into a fight Physical one, while on the job). I don't trust this dude at all and if I have my back to him, I feel as if he's contemplating col-****ing me in the back of the noggin. That's the Hate, the presence, I feel from him. Sure, it keeps you on your toes, and I guess Women, who can't fight, love that, but I don't. I am not that way, I am Certainly Not a bully, but I get girls in other ways, not through outwardly thumping my chest, saying, "Look at Me, Look at Me, oooga, oooga" like this guy does to get women wet their panties for him. This week, he has Every opportunity to fvck young teenies, because of his position, because of his bully-own-the-turf-he-walks-on behavior, And because the girls Know he is married, And they want what they can't have, they Want to lure him, to steal him away from his own wife, and They would fvck him in a heartbeat for that Feeling of being his "wife" for one day. Of course, because of the waywardness of women always, especially a youngy thang like that one who's questioning him about his wife, etc etc, she'd turn on him in a heartbeat; therefore, he'd be an absolute FOOL to fvck her, unless he knew for sure that he could get away with it i.e. she'd not tell, or leverage it against is position, his life, thus taking away a lot of the alphaness he has accumulated by being married, etc etc.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
thus taking away a lot of the alphaness he has accumulated by being married, etc etc.
...and now being married makes you alpha. Interesting.
I rest my case.

No offense to you, Poonani, by the way. Your description of the brute alpha boss was spot on.
I don't think marriage makes you alpha though.
I'm sure you're saying being taken/forbidden makes him more appealing.
 
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So I'm watching the West Memphis 3 Documentary on HBO and lo and behold death row alpha strikes again lol. That girl from LA is cute as **** lol. Got her **** together and everything. This dude is on ****ing death row lol
 

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This just reinforces that women are pretty much completely incapable of logical thought.

How many DJ's here would develop one-itis over some female inmate on death row who they could never even touch, even if she was a true 10 with a perfect face, smokin body & plenty of wit & charm. I would tend to think none, b/c we'd rather have someone out in the real world we could actually fvck and spend time with. I think even just about every thirsty beta out there would pass on that too bc they know there's no chance they'll ever get in her prison jumpsuit lol.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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backbreaker said:
Got her **** together and everything.
Strongly DISAGREE.
 

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disgustipated said:
Most recently in my work situation I see guys who are in more of a position of "power" pull more easily....even if it is from the work pool of women...they still pull way more easily than the average worker.

This particular job I came into telling all my superiors and people (guys and girls) that I've done this type of work before and I've even run the machinery at previous jobs...well, not many believed me and coincidentally I don't get a TON of play.

At this previous job the second I got promoted and had my own small little crew to direct, I began to pull sooooo easily....in hindsight I recognize it's not a good idea.

Anyhoo, this week we get in a temp from my previous job who I used to be in charge of. She's immidiately super friendly to me and all smiles, she knows what I'm capable of and remembers me in a position of power over her. It's ridiculous what that kind of thing does to girls.

I gurantee once I get promoted here the same quality of girls that are giving me cold exteriors will automatically open up towards me. And in that time I will not have gotten any better lookin.
The truth.
 

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I think many are missing the obvious in regards to the OP's post.
From what I can gather the female lawyer is relatively young. She's probably a junior attorney and as a consequence, has to prove herself to her superiors.
Taking this case has raised her profile. The televised documentary will enhance her standing. Good things have happened to her since she met this man. Some transference may have occurred, but are we to believe she can't tell the difference between gratitude and physical attraction?

The lawyer is in a win\win situation. She never has to commit to the relationship in any way and her new boo will be dead in due course. Leaving her to cry her eyes out on Oprah. With a six figure book deal to follow.

This has nothing to do with being alpha and everything to do with convenience.

Don't be fooled.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Found this gem in another forum

[Light]: Casual confessions

This is all crazy to me, because I don't have any severe self-confidence issues or issues with being lonely. As a matter of fact, I have a few guys that I've dated this year, but decided to not go any further with them.. because they bore me. I'm 24, single and otherwise content..
Then comes along J. He has about 6 more months in prison. He is very down to earth and profound. He's in prison for being in a drunken bar fight that escalated into assault. I just feel like he understands me on a level that nobody has in a while, and he lets me into his world on a deep level as well. We both tell each other things we wouldn't anybody else - and I think this level of comfort with each other has been the key thing to me starting to fall for him.
He is really making changes in prison, he's taken many classes, and has even joined a work crew in the city he's in. I just think its amazing to see him grow a little more stronger and lighthearted (despite his situation) on a day to day.
I know that I wouldn't begin a relationship with him until he gets out.. but would it be crazy for me to start something once he gets integrated into society again??
I had to get this off of my chest because I haven't told ANYBODY that I know for fear of being stigmatized.
 

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zekko said:
I'm honestly about to the point where I think the term "alpha" has lost all value. The pickup community has watered down the meaning of the word so much that it's become basically meaningless.


This is what an alpha male literally is. Either the leader as in the boss of a company or leader of a social group. Or the top dominant male, maybe like the biggest baddest guy in the bar who can beat up any guy who challenges him.

But if you read this forum you may come to the conclusion that an alpha male is any number of things:

"An alpha male is a confident male". Any confident male is an alpha. Must be a lot of alpha males running around.

"I'm an alpha male because I think I am" (legend in his own mind).

"I've read a pickup forum, therefore I'm an alpha male". Because I know the secrets of the "matrix" and therefore I am better than any guy in "normal" life.

"A man who dominates women is an alpha male". No, any normal man can and should dominate any woman. This is the way it used to be in years and centuries past. Apparently this generation of men has been raised to be a bunch of pvssies.

"A man who is good with women is an alpha male". No, an alpha male is not defined by how he is with women. Women's attraction to him is a result of his alpha position, not the defining characteristic.

Your post caught my eye. As I never really post anymore. I would say that the definition of "Alpha" has not changed at all since sites like this started around the year 2000. The purest definition is that if you are an "alpha" you don't have to try. At anything, ever. You just win without trying while all the other men have to try really hard and never approach your greatness.

This is what is different from a "natural" and a PUA. Just the fact that a male has to "approach" a female at any time for any reason indicates that he is not alpha. Men who don't do anything and still get vag1na's flying at them from all angles are truly alpha. This is true for most things in life. For instance, I am an electronic engineer now. Its not very hard. However, people who have studied their entire life and went to classes for years and spend 400k on Harvard educations would start crying if they heard that from me and cry even more if they found out how much I make now without even trying very hard. :cry:

There was a time in my life when I was really hot. During that time I had an enormous amount of sex with whichever chic was the hottest at the time-- most of them had boyfriends like all hot chics. Not once did I "approach" or "pick up" any of these chics except to say "are you coming to my house later?" There just was no need for anything other than being hot and successful, really no need at all. I would be in the post office, the fvcking POST OFFICE and girls in line would straight up ask me "are you married?!?!" I would return to my truck after classes in college and there would be multiple pieces of paper with the phone numbers of girls written on them thrown through the crack of my window.

This is what it truly means in my opinion, I don't think that one can simply "arrive" at being an alpha male by trying things and improving yourself and trying to emulate someone who isn't trying, but is still winning. If being an "alpha" is something you can attain by reading some stuff on a website and trying it out later, then the definition has truly changed and is meaningless now.
 

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No it doesn't mean they are desperate for alpha male , it just mean their definition of alpha male is extremely high .
 
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evan12 said:
No it doesn't mean they are desperate for alpha male , it just mean their definition of alpha male is extremely high .
Does it mean he treats them like garbage and abuses them?
 
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