women and porn

[joekerr31]

just a quick thought...

why are there so many chics in porn.

i mean, there seems to be thousands of them.

surely if you got a hot bod you could earn a living some other way. moreover you could just find a rich guy to take care of you or something.

anyone have any theories as to why chics get in to porn? the money ain't even that good. a chic new to porn only makes like a grand to do a scene.

sure, a grand is a lot of money for a couple hours of work, but theres a cost associated to it also. she'd have to do 100 scenes a year just to make what many normal professions pay (mind you, you gotta work 9-5 all year in a normal job).

I mean, it ain't even enough to fuel a drug habit very long.

thoughts?

 

[FoolsCause]

Women are hornier than generally believed or accepted by polite society.

 

[joekerr31]

i dont read the other forums. just the mature one.

cool that you asked the same question.

fame and attention makes sense. failed actresses who figure this is their only avenue to the glamour of being a celebrity.

but i gotta tell ya, they must be pretty stupid at the same time. letting five guys blow their loads on your face ain't going to get you much respect in this world. sure, guys will watch to spank their monkies, but beyond that they could care less who these girls are.

computer nerds and truck drivers seem to be the only guys who actually follow some of these girls and are 'fans'. oh wait, and some high school jocks as well i suppose.

 

[joekerr31]

btw, its just as messed up that five guys are ok with standing around thigh to thigh all beating off together to blow on some chics face.

as far as im concerned, if you're beating off and any part of your body is touching another guy at the same time, that's as close to gay as you can get without officially calling yourself gay.

 

[joekerr31]

what most peopel dont realize is that most things are a 'business'.

the glamor we see is bullsh*t. life ain't an MTV video for anyone - its just marketed that way.

maybe its just as simple as a bad decision.

i mean, a lot of them start young and have no career options other than working at wendy's or something. they start stripping, some dude overs them 1500 to do a movie, they say ok.

before you know it they are on their way down the slippery slope and have made a career out of it.

seems to me that most people in life get 'in' to their professions through a slippery slope and then get trapped.

 

[Interceptor]

The primal feeling of feeling and being seen as DESIRABLE.


The attention, the "naughtiness", the "illicitness", the "danger", the "unconformist" perception, the abiltity to display their wide pallete of sexual tastes without (falsely perhaps) the retribution of social condemnation for being labeled a "slut", after all she IS an "Adult Film Star".
Living out their wildest fantasies.


AND.........



The money.

Lots of it.


Attention. Adulation. Object of Men's Fantasies. Being seen as "sexy".Ever changing assortment of sexual partners.
And the financial independence lifestyle.

 

[Crank_It_Up]

...but i gotta tell ya, they must be pretty stupid at the same time. letting five guys blow their loads on your face ain't going to get you much respect in this world. sure, guys will watch to spank their monkies, but beyond that they could care less who these girls are.

computer nerds and truck drivers seem to be the only guys who actually follow some of these girls and are 'fans'. oh wait, and some high school jocks as well i suppose.

hmm... you seem to know a lot about porn, err.. cough, but then you couldn't since you're not a lowly computer nerd or truck driver right?

 

[STR8UP]

The number one reason.... (drumroll please)

Access to fame and attention.. the cocaine of a female.. (this is the biggest reason in my opinion)

Don't know about porn specifically, but I DO know a thing or two about women and their desire to become famous.

I mean, just look at all of the celebrity gossip bullsh!t that is clogging the airwaves these days. Women are mesmerized by that kind of crap.

I watched a 20/20 special awhile back where the subject was people's desire for fame. It was eye opening.

The reason I paid such close attention to it was because I see it firsthand.

Go on craigslist and write up an ad seeking models for a tv commercial. Say "no experience necessary" and state very clearly that the project doesn't pay anything, it is for exposure only. I have done this several times to find models for my tv commercials.

I usually have at least one or two replies within hours, and over the course of a couple of days I get literally DOZENS or responses. I could imagine if I offered $100 how many chicks I would have beating down my door.

The Playboy chick i know even responded to one of my ads! Another one of the models that responded I have used in my commercials came to one of my parties and she was flashing her perkies for my camera in the bathroom. Women LOVE that sh!t.

Seriously....the camera isn't like cocaine, it's like CRACK cocaine to women.

the cool thing is, I now have a professional video camera, lighting, editing software, the whole nine. I already have footage of strippers getting freaky in my store. Turn the camera on and these chicks were getting BUCKWILD. I am planning on doing some sort of girls gone wild sort of thing or something that leverages my talent, connections, and assets. Fun, fun, FUN!

 

[RecoveringAFC]

sure, a grand is a lot of money for a couple hours of work, but theres a cost associated to it also. she'd have to do 100 scenes a year just to make what many normal professions pay (mind you, you gotta work 9-5 all year in a normal job).

I don't know what job you have, but I don't make anything close to 100K/year.

That out of the way, the women I've known are pretty open when it comes to sex. I've even managed to get a few on camera.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm sure the standard replies of access to drugs, attention, money, a sh!tty father, a molesting uncle, etc. will all make their rounds here soon enough, but the less common answer is that, to some degree, they enjoy it. Ponder this for a minute, are we biologically more sexual now than we've ever been in our evolutionary past or do we simply have more access to mediums in which we can express our sexuality? Are people any more sexual now than they ever were before or are we simply more aware of it with video, internet, print, etc.

The chicks on Girls Gone Wild videos aren't getting paid a fraction of what a porn "actress" receives (if anything), but yet there they are - flashing t!ts, giving head, knocking it out with guys & girls. They do it because they want to. Regular people living right next door to you are consuming (for lack of a better term) AND producing their own amateur porn that in turn is also being consumed by others. Sh!t, college frats and sororrities are producing their own now. When you look at the stats, you'll see a sharp increase in production and revenue during the inception of the internet. People want to fukk and they want to see other people fukk too, it's not terribly hard to understand, but the accessibility is far more convenient. I expect that as soon as some new technology comes along that astronomically increases bandwidth you'll see another spike in porn.

The relative annonymity that the internet provides makes for a very accesible way for people to be sexual (and make money), which is what they want to do anyway. From the earliest cave drawings, we depicted people fukking. Into the Greco-Roman era, art was about visceral physicality and more often than not fukking. During the Renaissance, the Baroque, the Rococo, rich patrons paid top dollar to have masters paint nudes for them _ the porno of the time. Hell, even vibrators were invented in the Victorian era. The earliest photography and film subjects? More naked people and fukking (though it was kept underground pretty effectively). Now we've perfected the media to where it is today; internet deliverable, HD content, on demand 24-7 and what's the most consistently profitable subject to use this for? More fukking.

 

[SoCalMike]

there are different types of girls in porn. there are those who just do a small number of scenes for extra cash now and then. typically they are just horny, low class, and are usually too dumb/lazy to do anything else. they eventually move on and put it behind them.

then there are the hardcore actresses, who do 100's of scenes, the crazy gangbangs, etc. these women are just insane and degenerate scum... druggies, wh*res, etc.

and yeah, a lot of the male actors are total homos. no strait guy that i know of would do some of the crap they do. it actually ruins the scenes sometimes.

 

[Cesare Cardinali]

Anything else.

 

[penkitten]

attention.
its one word joekerr.

 

[Dark Chivalry]

All sorts of girls "go wild" but only the dumbest and most attention addicted ones will allow there to be evidence of it.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Probably the grand desire to be thought of as SOMEONE and famous?

And yes, I see alot of porn. Makes me wonder wtf all the women are. Some island? Some castle? The ghetto? I have to believe alot of it is doctored pictures of the same girl made to look older or younger. Also, I believe a good amount of low quality porn are women who are sold into sex slave trade business and made to do it. Some of the medium to higher quality content are the same women, the women just get into "different themes." Butts. 3-somes. Teachers. Milf. Etc...But there is an obscene amount, to where you'd figure you'd run into ALOT of girls doing it. And most of them wouldn't pass as a good model either. They're mostly fugly if not for the lighting and makeup.

I bet some of the women aren't from REALLY bad backgrounds. Asia Carrera, whom I've followed from her Fansite, was pretty grounded and VERY intelligent. She just got into it to amass a pile of money and retire. That's probably the motivation for ALOT of women. Do it for a period of time, stop doing it, and then retire, or do another profession. Asia is pretty candid about her times in porn, and says she'd never go back...even though she lost her husband last year, a health guru who's book I bought on Food Separation (Don Lemmon) to a card accident. Just type her name in. Be warned, there are free nude, old pics on her site if you're at work.

It seems like an EASY and HARD field regardless of your sex. The money is easy and hard. You get practically nothing unless you're Jenna Jameson. You have to create multiple streams of income by stripping, doing appearances, and then lowering your own value to do demeaning stuff all in the name of "art and film." Thing is...they only allow it b/c they can tax it. What's to say what the Hooker does isn't Art, if she bangs better than some porn star? Hooking is uncontrolled, not-taxed, and is somewhat "less desirable" in society. But porn gives young, broken girls a home to make a living, and find other messed up girls.

Thing is, Jenna wasn't even THAT messed up relative to other girls. She made VERY bad choices b/c her mother died young, leaving her and her brother with their dad. Her dad was somewhat neglectful (according to her) so she ran to BAD BOY figures, very bad, which lead her down the path to her porn future. She's no better with the money, because she just ran from the issues plaguing her. Her bad experiences were the result of running from daddy to bad guys which raped her, encouraged her to do open sexual things, and drugs. All of which happened. At her young age, she had ALOT of choices, but a dead mother and an absent father (at least mentally/emotionally) can do that to a girl.

Even Asia Carrera wasn't...she just hated her Asia customs which tried to restrict her freedoms. She left home at 17 with practically nothing and wanted to make it on her own. Porn gave women with no real other talent (for the most party), or at least no DESIRE to find a better outlet, a way to get by, make a living, and survive, in a sense. Thing is, now its glamorized. They're a figure head. The word porn is inserted everywhere, and its "ok" to be pornographic in public. When guys seek women, they seek women like that. Because they think it exists. And it does, to an extent, but at a price.

I don't think any man will fully comprehend WHY women do it.


A-Unit

 

[theunflushables]

They do it for the T-Shirts.

 

[Vulpine]

They do it for the T-Shirts.

The ones that say "I did porn for 15 years and all I got were these lousy warts"?

 

[theunflushables]

Yep, those are the ones.

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

The primal feeling of feeling and being seen as DESIRABLE.


The attention, the "naughtiness", the "illicitness", the "danger", the "unconformist" perception, the abiltity to display their wide pallete of sexual tastes without (falsely perhaps) the retribution of social condemnation for being labeled a "slut", after all she IS an "Adult Film Star".
Living out their wildest fantasies.


AND.........



The money.

Lots of it.


Attention. Adulation. Object of Men's Fantasies. Being seen as "sexy".Ever changing assortment of sexual partners.
And the financial independence lifestyle.

There isn`t a LOT of money... average actor makes 30 k that`s not worth the humiliation IMO. Even the most famous stars like Jenna Jameson and Ron Jeremy makes around 90 K. All the money goes to the managers and companies, actors get paid sh$t even though it`s a dangerous job with all the STDs. Porn is a degradin opinion u have to sell ur body cuz ur too dumb to do anything else.

 

[~attrACTION~]

There isn`t a LOT of money... average actor makes 30 k that`s not worth the humiliation IMO. Even the most famous stars like Jenna Jameson and Ron Jeremy makes around 90 K. All the money goes to the managers and companies, actors get paid sh$t even though it`s a dangerous job with all the STDs. Porn is a degradin opinion u have to sell ur body cuz ur too dumb to do anything else.

Kind of ironic coming from a guy who idolizes Peter North. Not that I am ragging on you or anything, it's just a little ironic.