Women and cheating

[CollegeLife]

One of my AFC friends has just got into a relationship. This is a guy who viciously defends his "nice guy" view of the world and when ever I try to give him advice on girls he attacks my views so I don't even bother anymore. Maybe he'll learn the hard way - I don't want that but it might be best for him in the long run.


Women are Devilish Wh0res

Sometimes I wish I'd taken the blue pill instead of the red one. Ignorance is bliss.

More than a little depressing. I remember that thread, that turned into quite a flame war.

Your AFC friend, I have no wish as you do, to see him learn the hard way.

You know, when I first start reading this stuff, my understanding is acceptance that women have a dark side as a yourself have one too. Knocking down the pedestal of them as pious angels.

In the case of the AFC friend, treating as a goddess who can do no wrong fearful of every step one made is one of the first lessons. The problem is desperation and conditioning of seeing her as a perfect princess.

Now what I been reading lately, it seems the mistake is even see her as a human being. Even treating her as someone more down to earth leads to, at best, her heart secretly for someone else to, at worst, cheated on (or worst of worst, cuckolded) eventually. That's not viewing knocking down the pedestal of them being angels, that's throwing them down the pit of sh!t.

I thought the red pill was originally fighting off the mindset of worshiping women fueled by desperation, not seeing them being incapable to be a good girlfriend by nature.

Am I suppose to think every guy I know is a chump and every girl I know to have my disgust? Anyone wanna answer me on that question? Because it is hard to accept that I know everyone so little.

Just two nights ago I went out with a group of friends, a group of guys and girls and I like to think I know them pretty well. Even the drama queen girl of the group, I still view her with some respect in some way. She dramatic and teased some guys as her emotions easily change (like a typical girl), but she's still good at heart. I don't think she's is doing what the stories from Roissy or str8up told in the link above which would win my disdain. The other girls are more stable, or at least no worse than our actions. Everyone have the capacity to do bad sh!t, but I like to think that it takes a certain type of people to do the worst as in the stories from Roissy or Str8up.

On top of all of that, it leads to one more question. Is it impossible for a girl to love a beta male? In this aspect, beta is not the groveling wuss, but the regular guys like everyone here, we might be a little more ambitious and less willing to take sh!t, but we're aren't something super special either. It seems that we have suppress their sexuality so they'll stay with us, though without their actual love, or be supermen.

To be honest, I was hoping to hear some dissent. It just the above seem too crazy. It would imply so many things about the people around it (ie. the image of my best friend being cheated on and etc). Its implications mean every girl is branded with the automatic disdain we all feel for open slvts. It means that girls I know too are not the people I thought I know (hard to see them in the same light having an image of them with one hand one some dude's **** and the other on a cellphone talking to her parents or boyfriend as those stories I read. Am I reading too far and distrusting my own experiences too much, or I just too naive and have too little experience.

 

[DonGorgon]

True, but you hear about women in relationships with real alphas (in fact usually in these relationships it's the guys who cheat) and she's completely obsessed and head over heels in love with him, to the point she can't even think about other guys.

I've even heard of situations where women fall in love with their fvck buddy and decide on their own not to sleep with other guys even though they can.

Some women will always cheat though. Slvts will cheat even if they're in love with their alpha boyfriend, that's just the way they are.

their cheating does not change at all .. what change is is their rate of admission of having cheated.. females do what ever when ever , all we have to go on is what they choose to reveal to us or if we are lucky enough to find out some other way.. a woman loving you does not indicate monogamy... a woman loving you usually means you are on her **** list, along with whom ever else is on there..

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Would you seek to business with a man who you knew to have no morals, no ethics, only serving his basic and shallow desires?

Would you value the opinion of such a man, or place value on knowing him?

We know what women are, it's not that they're all good or all bad, but you'll never have trouble with women until you take them too seriously.

Stop taking women seriously.

 

[DonGorgon]

At the moment I just want to fvck around, but I don't really want to be like that forever. One day I want a good girl..

your best chance to have that is only when she is no longer physically attractive and to old and weak to service the desperate men who chase ugly women..

relationships are part of the human social dynamic.. so go have them just avoid kids and marriage cause they are financial burdens

 

[DonGorgon]

Would you seek to business with a man who you knew to have no morals, no ethics, only serving his basic and shallow desires?.

hence why lying is so important to humans..lol

 

[starplayer]

their cheating does not change at all .. what change is is their rate of admission of having cheated.. females do what ever when ever , all we have to go on is what they choose to reveal to us or if we are lucky enough to find out some other way.. a woman loving you does not indicate monogamy... a woman loving you usually means you are on her **** list, along with whom ever else is on there..

But females tend towards monogamy more than males (actually hypergamy).

She only needs one man to get her pregnant. Therefore, she picks the highest value male she can find and fvcks him and falls in love (the alpha male, who will have several other women in love with him).

If a woman somehow manages to get an alpha male into a relationship, she has no reason to cheat on him (but he will likely cheat on her and dump her, and she will take him back)

When women cheat, 99% of the time it's because she's in a relationship with a low value male (beta) so she fvcks the high value male (alpha) behind his back. It's her biological aim.

She gets the best of both worlds. Rollo said it best in Schedules of Mating



Men cheat for different reasons. Men cheat because they're designed to spread their seed. So even if we have a high value woman, we might still fvck a lower value woman on the side to get her pregnant too. It's our biological aim.

your best to have that is only when she is no longer physically attractive and to old and weak to service the desperate men who chase ugly women..

Well that's something to look forward to then lol

 

[(JJ)]

Stop taking women seriously.

best advice on this thread. it's gonna happen, and you might not know if/when it does. so just learn this stuff and use it in your life.

although, it seems that your best chance of getting a relationship where you dont get cheated on is to be the guy that girls get obsessed over, but find a way to not get tired of that dynamic.

 

[jonwon]

It's always a shock for guys who have been brought up to believe woman are nothing but sugar and spice and all things nice - to fully see them for what they are.

But at the end of the day when you reflect on it, it makes perfect sense.

Guy's assume women will remain loyal out of some society moral code of conduct. For starters women lack the moral values men do (men cheat but on the scale of things men have more of a moral compass)

At a biological level, a level to pass on your genetic code - cheating becomes rather logical -

When a women has the option to fuc* a guy who can provide sexy sons and sexy daughters, to help pass on her genetic code, by instinct and survival replication for the human animal - she will normally take the least resistance and if some AFC wants to provide for her, whilst she is secretly sleeping around, than who's fault is it in the end?

When I state sexy sons and sexy daughters, this isn't about looks, this is about the whole encompasing spectrum of things that attract females: wealth, ****y cheeky humour, social status, ability to interact with the world (work, make the world work for them), e.t.c

The problem is not that women cheat, the problem is so many men don't understand that women do cheat - it's part of the female mystique, designed to allow her a trump card in the mating game - she holds the ace card - this is why women play down female cheating, but always jump on males cheating - even though secretly her genes are saying "hey look he can have sexy sons and daughters who will attract another mate" -- they villify males who cheat, but at the core of there animilstic urges they also gravitate to men with options, because on a gentic level, he is fundimentally the best option to keep her genes in the pool of life -

Sex is nothing more than making babies at it's fundimental bases.

Sex to men and women is vastly different - women have far more to loose if they have a kid - there market value in the dating game falls and they have to provide also - hence why women will settle for a provider, whilst dream of the bad boy alpha who is fuc*ing all her friends.

When you look at women at this simplistic level it all becomes clear.

The job then is for a man, to know that for a women to cheat is logical.

Same for a man cheating - He get's to spread his seed about.

Men and women cheat equally, the problem is the female mystique and the matrix makes men believe that women are exempt, to be held up to a higher moral virtue - which on the face of it, is nothing but a system of control (society) dictating the animalistic drives of the human animal -

Nature v nurture.

Not all women cheat, but I believe this is down to her values i.e Nurture.

When they lean more towards nature women cheating is logical.

How do you provent it?

It's simple really - be the guy who is simply the best she can find, be the ultimate sexy son and sexy daughter in her monkey society, but ultimatly, have standards, have morals and make sure the girl your with is worth it in the long haul -

If a woman cheats, it may not be anything you did, you just settled for a girl who wasn't compatible -

You have to have a women who worships the ground you walk on - when you find that, cheating will be a none issue. But in reflection a man must become, to make sure she doesn't stray.

Simply dont be a needy wuss*, beta AFC puss* boy.

Be everything that encompases male.

Confident
indepenent minded
Able to handle any shi*
A rock for her to lean on
Doesn't have problems only solutions
Believes he is the king of his castle - doesn't act like it, but IS IT.
Dont be fear based -
Dont take yourself to seriously, know how to enjoy the world
Have options
Lead and make her follow, she is a guest in your world.

Matrix makes men out to be sex obsessed brutes, but what most AFC's do not realize is that women are highly sexed creatures - a tip for some readers - is to flip this around when dealing with women - make them the ones still trapped inside the system - i.e simply state to them "Women, all they think about is sex" - and watch how they don't deny it, if anything they in most cases act like what society paints men out to be, sex obsessed horn dogs. When you can flip a women sexual desires on her head, by making them chase - men will understand that women in the right situation are just as aggressive has men when it comes to wanting to fuc* - but women have many reasons to mask there sexual desires, one of those is; what society paints them out to be - negative stigma.

 

[starplayer]

^ What this guy said. That sums up the thread.

 

[Nutz]

One man's ho... is another man's housewife..

Take that to the bank and save it with you money..

Sad but true. Plenty of guys I've known have gotten BJs are were porking a chick while she's on the phone with the bf/husband who was wondering where she was at. I've done it myself once or twice. Makes you wonder how many guys here or that you know are on the receiving end of that cheating. When your gf or wife is out with friends, and she's supposed to be home by the time you're wondering, there's a very good chance it's because she's being pounded out at that very moment.

Trust, but verify. If you can't verify then what happens next is simple: you do not trust and you're well within your rights to assume she's doing something inapproriate. It's as simple as that. The moment you let them off the lease they can and will cheat. There has to be a real threat of A) getting caught and B) repercussions. It's the only way to keep modern women in line these days with their huge entitlement mentalities. If you don't they'll often stray and feel completely justified doing so. That's the reality of modern western women.

 

[Capodeciña]

Huh...

Sad but true. Plenty of guys I've known have gotten BJs are were porking a chick while she's on the phone with the bf/husband who was wondering where she was at. I've done it myself once or twice. Makes you wonder how many guys here or that you know are on the receiving end of that cheating. When your gf or wife is out with friends, and she's supposed to be home by the time you're wondering, there's a very good chance it's because she's being pounded out at that very moment.

Trust, but verify. If you can't verify then what happens next is simple: you do not trust and you're well within your rights to assume she's doing something inapproriate. It's as simple as that. The moment you let them off the lease they can and will cheat. There has to be a real threat of A) getting caught and B) repercussions. It's the only way to keep modern women in line these days with their huge entitlement mentalities. If you don't they'll often stray and feel completely justified doing so. That's the reality of modern western women.

How does a girl conversate whilst giving a BJ or being Porked? Without the Husband/BF knowing somethings up. Seems unrealistic to me, wouldn't they just NOT pick up the phone?

 

[OFWHAP]

How does a girl conversate whilst giving a BJ or being Porked? Without the Husband/BF knowing somethings up. Seems unrealistic to me, wouldn't they just NOT pick up the phone?

If she's able to talk on the phone whilst being porked, she must not be getting it that good.