Woman pregnant from someone else, but BF stayed anyway. True redpill or just weak AF?

[Gamisch]

Discussed this situation yesterday with a homie and wanted y,all opions on this.The theory is a truly redpill guy knows female nature by heart and cannot be surprised. So all the jargon( hypergamy, monkey branches ect) is something he'll expect anyway.

This dude I accosiated with few years ago (40 y.o m) had a 25 y.o GF. Hot girl, and they actually seemed like a great fit to be together. Both edgy, egotistical persons . Dude had a alpa -ish frame on him, and she was b!itchy high maintenance. He had a 16 y.o old son at the time from a previous relationship.

Fast forward she gets pregnant. Everybody is happy for them and then it happens; she is pregnant from another guy. I would expect dude to run for the hills but to my surprise he decided to stay with here. Imo completly unacceptable, but now, here is my theory:

If a man is redpill ( or thinks he is) he won't and cant be surprised by anything female nature has to offer . So maybe he was like , I dont care if she cheated , we been together for a long time, and all women are the same anyway.

Maybe the Will Smith's of this world REALLY dont care and feel like they actually stand above how the average guy( like me, still fairly blue) thinks. That as long as he gets what he wants out of the relationship he dgaf ? I would be heart broken and never talk to her again, so I was really surprised to hear they were still together .

Crazy story. What do you guys think?

 

[MatureDJ]

Not "weak as fuuck", but "desperate as cuck".

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Your friend is a shiny white knight of peace

 

[Billtx49]

There are many different Exit signs that can develop in a relationship, but that one is the largest and actually flashes red …
Love and respect do Not exist in the absence of trust. Her act destroyed his.

 

[Tilex]

Plot Twist:
It was his 16-year-old son that got her pregnant.

 

[SW15]

Weak AF. A strong man does not tolerate being a cuck.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Wtf, I would have run for the hills for the cheating alone, but this girl got pregnant by another dude. At least take away exclusivity and demote her to plate status. Maybe keep banging her until the pregnancy actually starts showing AND THEN run for the hills.

 

[Gamisch]

What would he be getting though? A girlfriend who disrespects him, cheats and exposes him to possible deadly STDs, another man's kid he will no doubt have to support?

What's in it for him?

If it's regular sex, he can get there anywhere with a better quality woman I would think.

Or perhaps he doesn't care? Is that RP? Not a rhetorical question.

OK, I'm a chick and don't claim to know that much about RedPill but from what I do know, if he stays, it doesn't sound like RP. Sounds more like cuck.

How did he find out she cheated and it's another man's kid? I dunno sounds like some context is missing Gamisch, I could be wrong.

Wtf, I would have run for the hills for the cheating alone, but this girl got pregnant by another dude. At least take away exclusivity and demote her to plate status. Maybe keep banging her until the pregnancy actually starts showing AND THEN run for the hills.

She told him about all this after giving birth . Was clear as day the kid couldn't be his so it was impossible to deny that for her. (They both darkskinned and the child was clearly mixed). We had a disagreement on some business we did ,and he moved out of my city and I didn't see or talked with him anymore.

Could be that he felt like Fvck it I just bang her, but it came as a surprise to everybody. They seemed like a solid couple, although if I look back she had red flags all over her.

Dude always carried him self like a typical peacock, was really surprised he didn't ditched her right away.

I brought up RP because some claim a TRUE natural RP guy knows female nature by heart and cannot be surprised, where the typical BP guy is more naive and gets hurts . Crazy take, I know. I am just curious how a man can justify this, maybe guys like this and Will Smith dgaf on a level I am not even aware of. Like , they feel it doesnt even hurt them whatever a woman does as long as he feels like he gets what he wants, whether that be sex ,companionship or whatever.

Maybe she told him she was drunk type bs and it was a one time mistake? Unfortunately I am not able to ask him personally.

 

[CBear]

No they don't just stand above it and not give af if a woman cheats. Men are possesive. That also doesn't make any sense biologically. Infidelity within or outside of tribes called for extreme punishment. There's a reason why humans created Christianity and Islam and the idea of marriage/having multiple wives/punishment for certain actions. The guy that you're talking about most likely has no ambition or clear motivation in life and said f it. In his perception, the pro's and con's were that he still gets s3x and cons were that he raises a kid (that either doesn't bother him or kills him inside) if it doesn't bother him, that makes him even more of a c**k. If it kills him inside, then he is c**k by choice and desperation. Also, looking "alpha" definitely does NOT mean being "alpha"

 

[Juanto]

How is this even a question?

 

[CBear]

OK, this is kinda deep guys but hear me out.

Remember the video discussing women lacking empathy? It was suggested that while it takes longer for men to fall in love, when they do love, they love harder and deeper than women love men.

I've read this in other sources as well. That love for a man has the power to destroy him emotionally.

This actually happened to one of my brothers; it was his first real love and he loved her deeply. He was young, in college. They dated for three years, she ended the relationship after they graduated.

It destroyed him, he did not leave his room for the entire summer. Listening to music, door closed. I'm sure he came out to eat but it was when no one was around, late at night. I'm nearly in tears now remembering, no one could help him.

He finally recovered and has never been the same since - 15 years later. He is unable to sustain a relationship, he runs from love, your typical "commitment phobe" (or player) for lack of a better term. He simply won't allow himself to fall.

Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble but my point is Gamisch, it may be your friend simply loves her too strong and too hard. Like Will Smith loves Jada. And Johnny Depp and Amber.

Men can lose all focus and purpose sometimes when they allow themselves to fall that hard and deep. I'm actually just beginning to understand this about men and why some men fear love and have built defenses protecting themselves from it.

And why they use compliance testing and other qualifying methods on women. They have to, the stakes are too high.

I dunno I'm just speculating but perhaps this has nothing to do with RP and more about that he simply loves her too hard and too deep, and has lost his focus and purpose.

Bruh everybody goes through that. One of my patients the other day said that his son shot himself in the face after his fiance left him. Idk who you are, if your life is another woman who betrays and disrespects you to the point that you know she's being intimate with other men but you "love her too much to let her go" that's not just desperation it's NARCISSISM. You need that person in your life no matter what they do to make YOURSELF feel good. Otherwise your life is in shambles. You're doing it only for yourself at that point and you have no other purpose or destiny in life.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I would accept such situation only if she is rich as F and busy the whole day while staying with her grants me an amazing life style.

I dont see any other condition to make it worth it especially if I have to put something myself.

 

[corrector]

He has no options, she's the best that he can do so he stays with her to avoid being incel for the rest of his life. That's not red-pill because he has no abundance mindset or any options at all besides her.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I can understand your point in another context. For instance, if your wife is getting side **** and you intuit it, you may be so indifferent that you don't even care and retaliate by banging new women yourself, which brings her back to you. This actually happens a lot of Curb Your Enthusiasm with Jeff Garlin's character.

However, I cannot possibly see any possible situation where your wife cheating on you and getting pregnant for another guy is something you can ignore. Such behavior would make me so sick I wouldn't even be able to be in the same building as that woman.

 

[Gamisch]

How is this even a question?

I should've explained it better. So I had this convo with my friend yesterday, and before bed I searched "blue pill" on SS. I came across this post from a now banned user Chi town.

Red pill/Blue pill

Let's get honest here for a second. Majority of you guys are not red pill, you have been exposed to it but deep inside you are blue pill. You see it on all the pua sites and mgtow YouTube videos ECT a bunch of guys complaining about women and how "scandalous" they are and how true love doesn't...

www.sosuave.net

***"Becoming red pilled doesn't mean becoming angry at women, going mgtow, scared to show feelings ECT that's exactly what blue pill is, true red pill? It's knowing and understanding the true nature of women and excepting it with absolutely know bitterness in you're heart, without taking it personally, without a ounce of anger towards women or the game.

True Red pill is deeper than just knowing women's nature, you have to know it, except it and be perfectly ok with it, until then you are blue pill."***

Ofcourse I understand what 90% will say. But this post in particular made me think about the story I've told in the OP.

That's why I personally think any type of pill beta alpha ect isn't always the one size fits all answer. A man must adjust and use whatever is most appropriate. In this case imo OBVIOUSLY thats leave the b!tch. But I just came out of a 3 year LTR where I made a lotta mistakes , so I would be a hypocrite to claim I am personally fully RP now. But my take is ,let's say this dude is (or thinks he is )
RP , he could use this theory to justify this event.

But yeah I understand your question, my question is kinda strange gotta admit.

 

[Gamisch]

Bruh everybody goes through that. One of my patients the other day said that his son shot himself in the face after his fiance left him. Idk who you are, if your life is another woman who betrays and disrespects you to the point that you know she's being intimate with other men but you "love her too much to let her go" that's not just desperation it's NARCISSISM. You need that person in your life no matter what they do to make YOURSELF feel good. Otherwise your life is in shambles. You're doing it only for yourself at that point and you have no other purpose or destiny in life.

Yeah great point never looked at it this way. I think I never even heard somebody break it down like this. People will always say the dumper or cheater is the narcissist, while the dumpee is also narcissistic AF for not leaving.

 

[Gamisch]

Granted I'm not a man, but what about having standards? Does being redpilled as defined above mean having no standards?

Understanding and accepting women, I agree with that but again with how you're defining Redpill in bolded above, that would suggest that women's 'true natures' consist of cheating, lying, disrespecting their boyfriends/husband's and lacking integrity? Like your friend's girl?

And that RPilled men should understand and accept them regardless?

That can't be right, surely I must be missing something.

Yeah I highlighted that part from the post I quoted , so it's not necessarily my writing to be clear.

You're absolutely right about standards. But those standards ironically are more of a societal thing, you'll be hard pressed to find somebody who will tell you this is a "normal " situation.

And that's kinda my whole point. Societal thinking is viewed as BP, yet society would logically define them both as crazy. It shows RP and BP are not as clear as we think. Or that believing in soley RP can also be spinned into a illogical outcome.

BC if we go by the theory from said poster RP awareness means you already calculated something like this could happen and it shouldn't faze you. I can imagine (apart from your theory about your brother) that dude I described actually uses this kinda of thinking to justify staying, like it doesnt even bother him. Obviously most posters here , including me, will just say it's fvcking spineless and weak from him.

Maybe the conclusion of this thread will be both pills actually have their toxic sides, and a man must indeed learn to completely think and decide for himself ( own laws and rules ) without any kind of pill telling him what's right or wrong.

Not sure about the acceptance yet tbh. That's why I actually made the thread, to hold this against the theory what true redpill means and to ,perhaps, point out a mayor flaw in RP thinking.

 

[Gamisch]

If she were just a plate, that would make sense. But the way you described their relationship, it sounded like they were in a serious relationship.

And by 'understanding and accepting" that her nature is that of a cheater, a liar and lacking integrity, he's accepting a very low quality woman to join him on his journey, not to mention he will be raising and supporting another man's kid.

Which, and JMO, makes him a bit of a simp and a cuck, he also risks losing her respect.

I agree . Lotta cognitive dissonance from his side obviously. Respect was already gone the moment she cheated, and even waited to tell him till the moment of birth .

 

[DonJuanjr]

Just because he's c0cky, doesn't make him red-pilled. I think there are very few natural red-pilled dudes out there. Deep down most believe in true love or soul mates, and once they come across that one, their frame crumbles.

 

[BuckledWheel]

She would have been gone instantly. No conversation about it, out the door. She disrespected him & that is not tolerable. If she’s done it now, she will in the future, no question. Why would he want to take financial responsibility for this kid? This is a long term handcuffed to the bed situation. He will start to see the real father demand his rights also. Considering he has a 16 year old I would assume he is older? She’s been banging behind his back & probably not for the first time. This situation is untenable. He needs out of this now. No woman is worth what he’s about to commit too.