With girls it seems you have to make a sacrifice. IMMA be me regardless.....

[women haze]

I am currently trying to get close to this girl. I already went out on two outings with her. First outing we met at a local Fridays and got dinner and drinks.

She wanted to see a movie with me but it was playing too late,. So we did that the next day. During my time with her I had not gone for a kiss close only a hug. I think that she is not really looking for a relationship....Maybe if she hangs out with me enough I could persuade her you know..

Well anyways, Sat is UFC 104 and I wanted to go Salsa dancing with her, yet I really want to see Rua vs Machida so I asked if she was interested in UFC and she said no she wasn't.

I said that's a shame because I was gonna go to a bar and check out the fight.Was interested in seeing if you wanted to join me. She said " When have I ever been interested in fighting or any of that." . I didn't know what to say really after that.

Ofcourse she won't be hanging out with me this weekend.........

My thing is When trying to develop a dating relationship with a woman is it always her way at first????

Then after you two have established a bond then maybe she would do things that you want to do? I kinda like this Chick and I really want her to like me.

 

[women haze]

I need some insight on this please....Is it always us adapting to her way or no way? I don't really want to next her, because we don't share that one common interest and that is UFC she is a fun girl regardless and we both have similar passions in life.

 

[Don Israel]

My thing is When trying to develop a dating relationship with a woman is it always her way at first????

No. It should be something that both of you will enjoy. Maybe Salsa? Bowling? Pool? Clearly she has NO interest in seeing how a brazilian jiu-jitsu expert goes against a kickboxing+wrestling champion in a ring. Be glad that she's honest, since some girls i've dated only pretended to like a particular activity...will i learned a few months after that particular date.

Then after you two have established a bond then maybe she would do things that you want to do?

Bingo. If you game her right and when she gets to know you better, SHE will be the one asking to accompany you on one of you activites.

 

[women haze]

I was so STUPID!!! thanks.........no good at this ****

 

[chrisgoodrich25]

No. It should be something that both of you will enjoy. Maybe Salsa? Bowling? Pool? Clearly she has NO interest in seeing how a brazilian jiu-jitsu expert goes against a kickboxing+wrestling champion in a ring. Be glad that she's honest, since some girls i've dated only pretended to like a particular activity...will i learned a few months after that particular date.




Bingo. If you game her right and when she gets to know you better, SHE will be the one asking to accompany you on one of you activites.

i disagree here...I thinks its up for the guy to have date ideas..do the things you like to do..perhaps if you have no common intrests than you are not right for her and visa-versa..perhaps you'll find she wants to bust out a strap on and run a train on you with her fiance...

 

[Gangster Of Love]

First of all, you can start by not saying "IMMA". :kick:

I hope you are not a troll. Really, are you really that clueless as to what you are doing wrong?

I am currently trying to get close to this girl. I already went out on two outings with her. First outing we met at a local Fridays and got dinner and drinks.

Why are you going to a local Fridays for dinner and drinks, on a "first date"? Stop doing the typical courting rituals. These are outing, get togethers, meetings, meet and greets. You are begging to be seen as a chump.

Who paid for this first "outing"?

She wanted to see a movie with me but it was playing too late,. So we did that the next day.

Why are you going to the movies for a second "outing"?

Too late according to who? Did you decide it was too late, so you opted to go the next day? Or did you ask her but she refused because it was too late?

Who paid for the movie?

During my time with her I had not gone for a kiss close only a hug.

Why not? Having gone on a dinner date and movie date, you should be further along with this one.

Did you go for the "hug close"?

I think that she is not really looking for a relationship....Maybe if she hangs out with me enough I could persuade her you know..

I think she is really not looking for a relationship with YOU.

Yes, if she hangs out with you and sees what a great provider you are and how much money you spend on her, she might agree to a relationship with you, while she porks either a man who has his act together or a looser bad boy.

Well anyways, Sat is UFC 104 and I wanted to go Salsa dancing with her, yet I really want to see Rua vs Machida so I asked if she was interested in UFC and she said no she wasn't.

Why would you even consider going out with her on a saturday when you rather be doing someting else?

Perfect opportunity to tell her, "Hey, I am not available friday or saturday, let's meet up sunday evening."

Why ask a question when you know the answer will not be an affirmative?

Have you ever seen a lawyer on trial? They always ask the leading questions, knowing exactly what the answer is going to be.

Do your homework, grasshoper, before asking for her input/opinion/or approval.

I said that's a shame because I was gonna go to a bar and check out the fight.Was interested in seeing if you wanted to join me. She said " When have I ever been interested in fighting or any of that." . I didn't know what to say really after that.

Translation: "When have I ever been interested in hanging out and spending time with you, because YOU ARE YOU, regardless of the activity?"

Of course you didn't know what to say? You are not prepared to be playing this loosing game they call "dating through courtship". There are no winners.

Ofcourse she won't be hanging out with me this weekend.........

Of course, you won't be seeing this one naked for a while, if ever, and much less in a relationship you are desperately chasing away.

My thing is When trying to develop a dating relationship with a woman is it always her way at first????

It is if you are trying to impress her, convince her, and do so by forking out money on dates, instead of making sure she is interested enough in you because you provide the value, and she feels she must spend time with you.

Most men in most situations, when they are in control at first, will eventually allow the woman to take control and make it "her way", permanently. You are are starting way worse than them. She has the control, "her way" at the beginning, and she'll end up hating you, if she even sticks around enough.

Then after you two have established a bond then maybe she would do things that you want to do? I kinda like this Chick and I really want her to like me.

That is why you don't take them out on "dates" and spend money before you have an "established bond".

What are you gonna do, get on your knees and tell her "Please, like me, like me!"

If you are trying to get her to like you, you are doing the opposite.

ADVICE: If she still agrees to see you one more time, you must touch/hold her hand, and kiss her. That would be the perfect chance to either escalate or bail out and abandon this sinking boat.

 

[Warrior74]

you don't need to do anything until you read the dj bible because you are doing it wrong.


BTW you are in the friendzone with this chic. drop her. cut contact.

 

[women haze]

First of all, you can start by not saying "IMMA". :kick:

I hope you are not a troll. Really, are you really that clueless as to what you are doing wrong?

No I'm not a troll...Just a misguided SAP who actually digs a girl that he keeps ****ING up with......I quit

Why are you going to a local Fridays for dinner and drinks, on a "first date"? Stop doing the typical courting rituals. These are outing, get togethers, meetings, meet and greets. You are begging to be seen as a chump.

Who paid for this first "outing"?

She offered to pay half, I ended up paying because she did something nice for me and I just said I owe you and paid.....I thought that it may have gone pretty okay at this point. Maybe I was wrong.

Why are you going to the movies for a second "outing"?

Too late according to who? Did you decide it was too late, so you opted to go the next day? Or did you ask her but she refused because it was too late?

Who paid for the movie?

Well what happened was that she is not much of a night owl like I am, plus she went out late that prior night so....she didn't want to stay up too late. She said it was late I was like "cool let's catch the movie tomorrow then" She said "okay cool"
I paid for my ticket and she paid for hers

Why not? Having gone on a dinner date and movie date, you should be further along with this one.

Did you go for the "hug close"?

I don't know what she wants...apparently not me, Yeah I went for the hug close and told her she was beautiful.

I think she is really not looking for a relationship with YOU.

Yes, if she hangs out with you and sees what a great provider you are and how much money you spend on her, she might agree to a relationship with you, while she porks either a man who has his act together or a looser bad boy.

Okay so what am I missing??? I think I have my act together....I'm not a loser what would a loser badboy have that I don't????

I am not providing anything and hopefully if there is a next time..... I won't pay her way.

Do your homework, grasshoper, before asking for her input/opinion/or approval.



Translation: "When have I ever been interested in hanging out and spending time with you, because YOU ARE YOU, regardless of the activity?"

Of course you didn't know what to say? You are not prepared to be playing this loosing game they call "dating through courtship". There are no winners.

****...

ADVICE: If she still agrees to see you one more time, you must touch/hold her hand, and kiss her. That would be the perfect chance to either escalate or bail out and abandon this sinking boat.

I feel like I lost already DAMMIT....and yes I have been going semi no contact...I just been doing me. Well....I guess I tried and failed.

 

[King_Supreme]

She offered to pay half, I ended up paying because she did something nice for me and I just said I owe you and paid.

she offered to pay bcuz it sounded nice, its not like she was really going to do it but she just wanted to see if you were going to let her which u didnt.

Well what happened was that she is not much of a night owl like I am, plus she went out late that prior night so....she didn't want to stay up too late. She said it was late I was like "cool let's catch the movie tomorrow then" She said "okay cool"
I paid for my ticket and she paid for hers

thats was a sign right there. if she really was into you she would not have mind stayin out late wit u. she probably had somebody comin thru later that night to tap her a$$ so she needed to hurry up and get back. and then u set up a second date on the first date. u dont do that.

Yeah I went for the hug close and told her she was beautiful.

AFC behavior right there. a hug dont mean sh!t. u shouldve tried for a kiss to gauge her interest level. hug means friends.

I am not providing anything and hopefully if there is a next time..... I won't pay her way..

too late. if u do see her again u cant just switch up on her and start acting different. u have already come across as a friend, afc, chump, etc. u cant be like "oh im not payin for u this time" if u go out again. u have unfortunately already established your role. learn form ur mistakes and dont be bothered about this. there are tons of other women to practice on and perfect your skills with. ON 2 THE NEXT 1.

 

[King_Supreme]

ohh and that "your so beautiful sh!t" no, no, no. theres nothing wrong with compliments and i will say the "you are so beautiful" compliment sometime but it has to be done under the right circumstances. and i can just tell that the way u said it was in a "puppy dog eyes, im fallin in luv wit u, i worship u" type way. u probably said it in a way the boosted her ego instead of a way that made her panties melt. start carrying urself with some value and you'llhave women feeding u compliments in no time instead of vice versa.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Well....I guess I tried and failed.

Young man, there are no failures, only lessons learned. You tried, and you learned, hopefully. Pay attention to the advice and things others are pointing out and implement them, and make sure you don't keep repeating these basic mistakes on you NEXT sarge!