Winter Formal on Friday and I need a date,

[Viper]

Originally posted by Taviii
People give you advice and you still dont do anything. Why did you start this topic then? Why do you ask for help and then ignore it?

This is pointless.

No one is giving any advice, that would help me get a date and you know what, the topic IS pointless, I have not learned a single thing, from any of the 'advice' posted in the thread. It doesn't take a genious to see, that my approach, just isn't going to work, which is why I came here. Maybe, if you gave me some advice on how to actually improve my approach and didn't spend half the topic, talking to me about trying when failing is inevitable. Sorry if I just don't want to waste my time approaching, if with my current approach, I'm going to fail. Honestly, I'd like to see you guys use THIS approach and GET the girls number:

You: Hey.
Girl: Hey.
You: So, what's your name?
Girl: [Name]
You: Cool. I'm [Name].
You: So, how's it going?
Girl: [Replies]
You: So, can I have your number?

And if you don't get the number, you've further proven my point.

 

[Taviii]

The more you try the better you get!

WTF do you lose if you approach 999 girls?

You just get better at it with every approach.

Also talk to everyone you see, that will improve your skills.

 

[MrS]

lol viper jesus christ man.
you've been on the forums for a long time, and you still miss the big picture.

 

[Docs]

Viper, I gave you the piece of advice that is most important to you.

Stop looking at potential failure as a stop, look at it as a chance to test your skills to succeed.

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And people, stop bashing Viper. I'm going to start throwin shit if this turns into another 4 page Bash Viper thread.

 

[Holland]

There won't be any girls on here who want to go, bro.

You mentioned the problem yourself. You succk at convo's. Then you can do two things:

- Spark interest in a girl without words (non verbal)

I'll elaborate on this one.
I personally think it's not a good idea to just walk up to a random girl and start talking to her. She will think: "WTF why did he come talking to me just like that?"
What you need to do is this (especially if you don't or barely know the girl) :
Get eye contact a couple of times and don't look away when she notices it. Then, if she likes it, she's likely to smile whenever you encounter. If not, she either doesn't like it or she's shy. Once you got that down it's way better to start talking to them.



- Work on your conversation skills with anyone you talk to

What I get out of your posts that basicly what you do is this (correct me if I'm wrong):
-see a girl you know from class or w/e
-walk up to her and start talking
-say a couple boring lines like: "hi how are you blablabla how did your test go? blablabla what music are you listening blablabla ok see ya later, bye"
-walk away

That's boring socially excepted common courtesy, and it does not create any emotions in the girl. It's not bad to ask these boring questions, but you have to make sure you do something with it. For instance:
You ask her what did she get for the test.
She says: "well I got so and so"
What do you say?
"Okay"
*silence*
"see ya later"
NOO NOO NOO
You got to make the convo interesting! Believe me, she won't do it for you.
Now what should you answer?
I'd say something to make fun of her score
Like: "Serieusly, that's pretty low/average"
Her: "Ow yeah, what did you get?"
Me: "*insert grade and make sure it's lower then hers* *add a sly smile*

Think about any questions you asked a girl, and then think about the answers she gave you. And then think how you could have made a interesting comment on that.


I'd say you work on both these things.


PS:

I guess you are right about:

Well, the winter formal is coming up and I'm looking for a date, there are a lot of girls that I would take, but I'm just scared of getting rejected and I'm just not sure about how to go about asking a random girl to the formal. As you guys probably already know, I'm not good at building rapport with a girl and if I approach a girl with my current approach, it's a surefire rejection and who can blame them? No girl wants to go to a dance, with a guy that she can't even have a decent conversation with.

Now get your ass out there and do something about it.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Viper ignore all the people criticizing you too much on posting. Tell me, what are some of your interests and what do you like?

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by dirtyvibe
Viper ignore all the people criticizing you too much on posting. Tell me, what are some of your interests and what do you like?

Several things, but mostly music and sports.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by Viper
Several things, but mostly music and sports.

Now ask that question to a girl. She says music and sports. You say, 'Oh really? What music and sports?"

her: cheerleading, field hockey. oh and i play the trombone!

you: thats cool. so how long have you been playing the trombone?

her: a few years. its pretty fun. say, whats your name?

you: my names viper. so you must be pretty good with your mouth. you know whats weird? ive always wanted to play field hockey, but for some reason its considered a girls sport.

her: omg i know! whats up with that its such a fun sport and guys should play it too

you: yeah, you should teach me how to play some time.

her: ok, that would be fun.

you: alright, whats your number? ill call you this weekend and we can go out and play.

that weekend:
call her, arrange to maybe play a little field hockey for an hour, then and get something to eat since you burned a lot of energy learning field hockey and you're probably thirsty, then you're tired so you should go watch a movie at her house or your house. and now youre alone together watching a movie =)

 

[Nexxus]

haven't posted in a long while... been reading a lot though...

what I have noticed is that Viper you have indeed changed from 6 or so months ago... before you were a major nerd loser geek homo *****

now you've changed for the better, understand people more, just keep going, in another 6 months things will be even better, your reputation as that loser will go away, people will start to give you chances, and then you'll start enjoying life and everything around you...

you mught think that now because you are confident enough to approach girls will like you more now, that is true, but they won't like you enough to feel enough attraction with you to want to **** you... so now that you've gained confidence and made some appearance/mental changes to yourself now practice on your conversation skills... how will you improve these if you stop approaching because you're fed up with getting rejected?

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by Nexxus
haven't posted in a long while... been reading a lot though...

what I have noticed is that Viper you have indeed changed from 6 or so months ago... before you were a major nerd loser geek homo *****

now you've changed for the better, understand people more, just keep going, in another 6 months things will be even better, your reputation as that loser will go away, people will start to give you chances, and then you'll start enjoying life and everything around you...

you mught think that now because you are confident enough to approach girls will like you more now, that is true, but they won't like you enough to feel enough attraction with you to want to **** you... so now that you've gained confidence and made some appearance/mental changes to yourself now practice on your conversation skills... how will you improve these if you stop approaching because you're fed up with getting rejected?

i agree

 

[DJ4Real]

Originally posted by Viper
No one is giving any advice, that would help me get a date and you know what, the topic IS pointless, I have not learned a single thing, from any of the 'advice' posted in the thread. It doesn't take a genious to see, that my approach, just isn't going to work, which is why I came here. Maybe, if you gave me some advice on how to actually improve my approach and didn't spend half the topic, talking to me about trying when failing is inevitable. Sorry if I just don't want to waste my time approaching, if with my current approach, I'm going to fail. Honestly, I'd like to see you guys use THIS approach and GET the girls number:

And if you don't get the number, you've further proven my point.

You: Hey.
Girl: Hey.
You: So, what's your name?
Girl: [Name]
You: Cool. I'm [Name].
You: So, how's it going?
Girl: [Replies]
You: So, can I have your number?

"Hey" is a good start to a convo because it's a general opener.

After "Hey" don't ask "whats your name?" or anything like that. Keep the conversation light and comment about something that she's doing.

After she replies about your comment, make a joke about it C & F style.

And she'll laugh if she's starting to feel interested in you.

After you do that, close the conversation with a hey, do you have email *feel free to add a joke.*

That's all you need to do.

Show me what you've got, when you reply I want to see an example of how you would handle a situation.

 

[tigre]

Originally posted by Viper
but I have other things I could be doing on Friday night.

....yeah?like what?

 

[tigre]

Originally posted by dirtyvibe
Now ask that question to a girl. She says music and sports. You say, 'Oh really? What music and sports?"

viper dont even try to tell a girl that you play the trombone or tuba or whatever it is you play, thats just lame, and gay.

 

[etown]

Viper, the advice that everyone has given you is don't puss out and take the bullet. You have NO self confidence what soever. You are one of those guys that is so scared that you reject yourself before you even ask a girl out. How do you expect to get a gf if you dont even ask? I bet that even if one DOES ask you, you get scared, wonder if shes joking, then run home and think about it, thoughts racing through your mind and you have a argument against yourself. Trust me, I've done that more times than I care to remember. The fact is that a girl will only ask you out about once every 3 years if you don't create up any intrest through your actions and words even if your not bad looking. Just go to the mall in a major city nearby and practice on random girls, a good way to do so is carry around some cheap teashirts and either "prowel" around looking for girls that need help or to just strike up a conversation in line. If you do the prowel method, act as if you know what your talking about and you have experience in helping women out. If your in line, either make a cold reading or say something like "nice shoes, where'd you get them?"

I hope you turn over another leaf and become the pimp that is trying to bust out of you.

 

[Anomalous]

Look man, we need to start boycotting you, Viper!

Stop asking all these questions. You rated as a senior DJ, you should know what your doing.

I strongly recommend taking up a bootcamp!! This always happends to you Viper, people give advice, you don't take it, your thread goes on for 5 pages.


Ask a buddy/classmate for a date.

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by tigre
viper dont even try to tell a girl that you play the trombone or tuba or whatever it is you play, thats just lame, and gay.

Shut the f*ck up and stop giving stupid advice, just because you have no respect for music. I know a lot of GOOD looking girls who take a music/art related course, so please, shut the f*ck up because you don't know what you're talking about. I bet you think that everyone in band is a geek or a loser, don't you? Well, you're a stereotypical IDIOT, a lot of people in band, are socially active, play a sport and/or do an extra-curicullar activity, so stop posting, IDIOT. Now, I'm not saying everyone is band is socially active or plays a sport, I'm just saying that the stereotype that everyone in band is a geek, IS BULLSH*T. And stop flaming band, because despite what you think, band is COOL and you know what? I don't care what you think, because you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by Viper
Shut the f*ck up and stop giving stupid advice, just because you have no respect for music. I know a lot of GOOD looking girls who take a music/art related course, so please, shut the f*ck up because you don't know what you're talking about. I bet you think that everyone in band is a geek or a loser, don't you? Well, you're a stereotypical IDIOT, a lot of people in band, are socially active, play a sport and/or do an extra-curicullar activity, so stop posting, IDIOT. Now, I'm not saying everyone is band is socially active or plays a sport, I'm just saying that the stereotype that everyone in band is a geek, IS BULLSH*T. And stop flaming band, because despite what you think, band is COOL and you know what? I don't care what you think, because you don't know what you're talking about.

Relax. Do the bootcamp. If you cant make progress then stop and focus on school for a little while...and again...relax.

 

[dirtyvibe]

haha i thought that oakraiderz just said what viper said. yeah a lot of cool people do do band even though most are geeks.

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Relax. Do the bootcamp. If you cant make progress then stop and focus on school for a little while...and again...relax.

That's the thing, I've read the boot camp and it really doesn't seem to be aiming towards where I want to go. I can ALREADY approach women, no problem and if I remember correctly, it doesn't cover women until a few weeks in. Having conversation and building rapport with women is my problem. Infact, this isn't only a problem with women, but with people in general, I can't even hold a good conversation with a another guy either. I'm looking for something that can tell me how to start and carry on, a good conversation, with random people or people that I don't really know that well. Once I get better with conversation in general, approaching a girl and building rapport with her, should be much easier. I guess could also say I'm a little scared to approach people because I'm intimidated, because let's face it, there are some RUDE people out there.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by Viper
That's the thing, I've read the boot camp and it really doesn't seem to be aiming towards where I want to go. I can ALREADY approach women, no problem and if I remember correctly, it doesn't cover women until a few weeks in. Having conversation and building rapport with women is my problem. Infact, this isn't only a problem with women, but with people in general, I can't even hold a good conversation with a another guy either. I'm looking for something that can tell me how to start and carry on, a good conversation, with random people or people that I don't really know that well. Once I get better with conversation in general, approaching a girl and building rapport with her, should be much easier. I guess could also say I'm a little scared to approach people because I'm intimidated, because let's face it, there are some RUDE people out there.

Let me put it this way. You've been posting about how you can approach but not carry on a conversation for longer than the past 2 weeks. Conversation, I believe, takes part in the second week of boot camp.

Also, you can open, not approach. Conversing is part of the approach. All the opener requires is good body language and a lack of fear. Correct body language is to open not facing her but then gradually face her as you start talking.