-=Why You Should Stop Masturbating=-

[victor von doom]

Originally posted by DEKKA
what if you were forced to get rid of your sexual energy by getting laid? good motivation it would be... would it not?

and by "comes naturally" you must mean that anybody with a penis and a curious mind couldnt figure it out? but thats getting off the topic.

its an addiction.

man, we could go back and forth on this forever... tell you what, quote me some actual scientific studies saying that masturbation isn't natural but rather strictly addictive behavior.

Also, you don't really draw a line on how much masturbation is "addictive" - but hell, that's beside the point, isn't it?

i have no problem with you saying sex is a drug and all people are sex addicts. we've acknoledged that before when talking about relationships in other posts. you agree with me on this.

but

sex is the natural way and masturbation is the pill.
sex is the real thing and masturbation is the fantasy.
sex is the real reward given to your reward center of your brain for a job well done and masturbation is the drug you simulate sex with. (usually when you are horny, but for whatever reason can't get any at the moment)

if you didn't have that magic pill (masturbation) then you wouldnt be inclined to use it when you couldn't get any at the moment. you wouldn't have an "easy out". you'd either get laid or have a wet dream, thus, you would have more motivation to do the things necessary to reach your goals.

a nice explanation of why YOU PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TO JACK OFF. Please remember that what you are feeling is not universal truth and does not necessarily apply to the rest of us. This is why I take offense to your so called "theory" - you have not backed up anything you've said with any kind of scientific fact. Basically saying "I'm right because I say so." Sorry, bro.. not good enough.

I for one enjoy a good wank before a night of fukking... I last a lot longer... oh shyt, I'm an addict now!

 

[Eventide]

Dekka, I don't care if an idiot has no respect for me because I did not argue with him.

I don't need to.

Just about everybody else in this thread, asides from one other, has made plenty of rational and accurate arguments against your thoughts. However, you are so pigheaded and stubborn that you refuse to listen to anybody asides from the very few that share your thoughts.

Normall I would argue you, point by point, quote-retort-quote-retort. As much as I hate those kinds of posts, I would do it.

But you've already made it blatantly obvious that you do no listen to reason.

Your responses to other people's arguments are simply your original post rehashed.

I simply attempted to make an offer to keep you from bumping the same stupid post over and over again.

Edit:
I just thought this, "i haven't seen you produce anything or argue any of my points with supporting evidence" was funny since your posts have none

 

[DEKKA]

emotion is very dangerous to clear thinking.

heres what i think and why :

you don't need to masturbate
you can have sex to relieve your urge, thus masturbation isn't the only way. also, if you don't have sex you will expell your semen at night, thus you don't need to masturbate for relief either

masturbation is normal
anything done by 99% of men would be considered normal

masturbation is an addiction
this is a question of control. if something you do habitually controls you, you are addicted. if you are in control of what you do, then you don't have an addiction. masturbation, for many, is not something they could quit for very long, even with the alternative of sex present. to learn more about addictive behavior go to http://www.addictionmanagement.org/understanding_addiction.htm

not being able to masturbate would make you get laid more
sex drive is something that grows based on how long it's been since you last got off. the longer you wait the more sexual energy you have and the more you want to get your load off. if you were forced to have pvssy get you off then you'd have all that energy motivating you to get out and get that punanny. if you desired to have your needs met your motivation would get for you enough punnany to satisfy the urges you often faced, thus, more punnany... unless of course you were willing to go without.

masturbation short-circuits your brains reward system
sex is natural and the goal that your sex drive urns to fulfill. sex is the act that you as a human are driven to do in order to procreate. sex is the goal. masturbation is false sex(for most of you, you are pretending to have sex in your mind) that tricks your brain into thinking you had sex (on a chemical and physiological level), thus acting in much the same way a drug would in relation to issues of motivation. to learn more about this go to http://www.drugscience.org/OTA/OTA_2/OTA_2BR.HTM

masturbation isn't physically harmful
medical journals have said the same thing many doctors will tell you, masturbation won't hurt you. i don't believe it will either any more than actual sex would hurt you. the issue isn't physical. the issue is two fold. the issue is 1.) do you have the will power to control pushing the instant gratification button in favor of waiting and having sex and 2.) what is it doing to the motivation an unfullfilled sex drive would provide?

 

[Ice Cold]

If he's that stupid by the age of 20, we'll just have to accept him No use proving something...

 

[HollowHorizon]

If a doctor perscribes a medicine to treat your needs to be healthy and you and you take as directed it can be perfectly healthy. If you snort that drug take it to much becuse you imbedded it in yourself that you need it constantly.(addiction) Masturbation can be very simalliar and each argument has its downfalls

One: You masturbait constantly(a few times a day) You become addicted and your urge to do it is more frequent becuse you have imbedded it in your nature to do so. Witch can alter your feelings toward women in several ways

1 Your lust for sexual plesure has been released so you no longer need to seek out gratification of women becuse you already pleased yourself.

2 You may become lazy to do things (this dosent involve working becuse in this world you need $$ to survive so you will still acoplish what you need to live but not your own personal goals) Witch can be very harmful in being successful in certain area's.

3You may not need to feel you dont need to call that girl or see her becuse you are already satisfied so the need for women dosen't exsist

Now if you dont masturbait (in a healthy mannor)

1 You can easily lower your standards becuse you are desprate for releasing your sexual disiars. You may come to find your with a girl that you would never really be with if you haden't become so desprate.

2You may look at girls and your choices of choosing them may become alterd simply becuse you need to find a quick pice of ass to pleasure yourself and this will not work for women(then you will suddenly find yourself to be a frequent masturbatior)

If you do it in a healthy mannor you will be able to find your self as not needy but you will also have the drive to apporach women in any form, and not become shy from women becuse the desire is there but treated.

If your a don juan who is always getting laid this dosen't apply to you

Conclusion: Masturbait only when the urge is getting to the point where your so horney your about to rape the next chick who walks by....

 

[DEKKA]

here is a very helpful link about sexual addiction that may be very helpful to those willing to listen.

http://www.sex-addiction.com/masturbation-addiction.html

-J

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

There are those people who are sex addicts and might have a problem with masturbating too often and too much. But that isn't everybody.

There are those people who also have problems eating too much or eating too little, people who have problems exercising too much or never exercising at all, there are those who have problems watching too much tv and never learning to read, and the list goes on.

Yes, maybe some people have problems, but to say masturbating is just like drugs, is plain stupid.

There are reasons why people who stop masturbating for awhile start having more frequent wet dreams.

The body needs to release what is being built up.

In that sense, masturbating isn't all that different then pissing or crapping. All 3 instances, you need to release excess substance stored inside the body.

If you don't masturbate, your body will find a way to release it, either through wet dreams, or through you being embarrassed because you came too quick when you are with a girl.

Yes people might overdo anything, but saying masturbating is just like drug addiction, is again, plain Stupid.

 

[Paranoid]

Let me quote some interesting stuff I have come across :-

THE PROBLEM

Masturbation is more dangerous than smoking. Doctors of a generation ago knew this, but since the Sexual Revolution of the 1960's, this fact has been lost in the "if it feels good, do it" mentality.

Myth:
Masturbation is harmless.
Reality:
Medical science proves that chronic Masturbation causes weakness, depression, forgetfulness and nearsightedness.

Myth:
Masturbation is not immoral.
Reality:
Read your Bible. God was so offended when Onan spilled his seed upon the ground that God struck Onan dead! It is true that Onan wasn't Masturbating, but the point is that God hates it when men waste sperm, no matter what the reason.

Myth:
Masturbation is a "Victimless Crime."
Reality:
Theological experts on Masturbation have come to the conclusion that Masturbation is what is known as a "gateway" sin. This means that Masturbation leads to more serious offenses. In fact, practically all rapists, Sodomites, child molesters and pornography addicts started out as Masturbators.

Myth:
Americans value their "Freedom" and will never stand for Masturbation being outlawed.
Reality:
Masturbatory devices are already illegal in Texas. The police in San Antonio and Austin have aggressively enforced this law.

Myth:
But everyone's doing it!
Reality:
Surveys have repeatedly shown that up to 5% of Americans don't Masturbate.

If you are hungry for more....please feel free to visit :-
Winning The War Against Masturbation

I would love to post more on this but I seem to be getting very forgetful these days and my vision isnt upto the mark either....

Paranoid.

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

You are an idiot.


So everybody who masturbates goes out and becomes a rapist, a criminal, a pedophile, a whatever the hell you said.

What kind of moron are you?

Using your statistics, around 5 percent of people dont masturbate.

So that means 95 percent of society are criminals.


Yeah ok, go spend some more time stuffing your nose inside your bible.

 

[Thoroughbred]

Haha. Paranoid, are you saying you only believe sex is for procreation? If anyone has a problem with masturbation you also have to have a problem with sex.

 

[DEKKA]

it might be one thing to habitually masturbate when your a single guy and having fun, but it's interesting to consider the possible effects masturbation would have on a marriage, were it to continue at that point.... and from what i've heard it does continue in most compulsive masturbaters, unless they really find a good reason to quit.

i bet a lot of guys who masturbate when they are married are not giving their wives the attention they would if they didn't. it only makes sense that if you were taking care of your own urges your wife wouldn't be needed to the same extent and with the same desire.

anyways whether or not you agree point for point about masturbation is irrevelant. human nature doesn't allow most people to learn from the mistakes of others. for most, they have to learn the hard way and from first hand experience. the impact of lifes issues is always something that's gotta be sized up on a personal level. personal priorities influence decision making, not necessarily reality.

 

[adam22]

i totally agree with Dekka cause i didnt jacki it fro 2 weeks and i was apporaching a lot more girls than if i had jacked off. once u jack off u have no motivation or at least not as much to pick up girls

 

[DEKKA]

here is an excellent link for channeling and harnessing excess sexual energy into things that drive you to succeed and be creative. i found it pretty interesting reading.

http://www.mensresource.org/sandsarticle.html

l8a playas

-J

 

[AFK Protector]

 

[jungleman pete]

I tried to stop a couple of years ago.

I never changed my bed sheets so often in my life. I would be constantly waking up at 5am with drenched sheets. Good times.

If you need to be horny to approach girls, you maybe should think about why your approaching in the first place. I always found it hard to say the right thing whenever i would approach girls if i hadnt been masterbating for a while. It would put 100 times more pressure on me. I was like Butthead from Beavis and Butthead Not too smooth.

I find being laid back is much better for approaches than being horny out of your brain.

 

[DEKKA]

has anybody ever looked at sexual tension energy as an ally instead of something that has to be released everyday? i advocate making that sexual energy work for you. when the sexual tension builds up learn to channel it and revel in it. let it tingle through your veins and empower you.

 

[Paranoid]

Satire is dead......

 

[Lingham]

Originally posted by DEKKA
has anybody ever looked at sexual tension energy as an ally instead of something that has to be released everyday? i advocate making that sexual energy work for you. when the sexual tension builds up learn to channel it and revel in it. let it tingle through your veins and empower you.

Yeah you are hinting at conversion of orgasism as I had also hinted at earlier. It is an ancient but somewhat secret practice often done by celibate yogis or others who had great awareness of bodily functions. It was a good article at the link you provided.

 

[Oxide]

paranoid, that was the dumbest thing ive ever read...

please come up with something better to get your point across.

 

[Lingham]

PARANOID I ACTUALLY READ THROUGH YOUR THREAD AND REALIZED IT WAS A SATIRE. I guess you weren't obvious enough!