Why you got her to your place but couldn't fucc.

[RazorRambo24]

I think this is an important topic because alot of you guys need to know this.. Especially because I hear it from women all the time..
They'll meet a guy, and they'll like you (yeah you're not so ugly after all yippee), they vibe with you for the most part (yayu have a personality!, congratufuccinlations) but you take them back to your place, and you can't wait .. you're excited like a teenage boy, ready to enjoy the best 5 minutes of your life, and then all of the sudden.. she stops you.. but you're thinking, we're making out, and i already got her bra off cmon.. what happened?

She's not turned on man. She's not wet. Idk whats wrong with you, I'm no love doctor but that's what happened.. She wants to have sex, sure, but if she's not turned on, she's just not going to enjoy it. infact, it'll feel like a hairy pile of meat on top of her veraciously pounding her insides .. gross.

Now-- I'll be honest, this issue isn't your fault always.. I known women who have this issue.. and idk what the fucc it is, too much weed? bad diet? they need to be worked up alot to feel it. probably because they're meeting u and within 10 minutes of meeting u goin back to ur place to have sex ! (Thanks Tinder!)..

How do you get around this sht?

1) Create a sexual vibe from the start of the date to begin with. Yeah sometimes dudes are lazy and oblivious.. Some of us are just living in the present moment.. no time to plan ahead.. But, some easy ways to create sexual vibes from the beginning: let her know what you want to do to her when you see her.. sexy texts/provacative texts/dirty pics exchanging .. simple sh.t - When you see her, make it sexual from the jump .. get some hands on that ass, slap that as.s. grab those hips, dont hesitate to kiss her.. let her know how you feel.. Don't wait till you get back home to do this. If you're afraid of PDA, you're in the wrong business. at.

2) Don't rush into it as soon as you get into the door, instead, have some drinks first, /shots.. Maybe put on some aroma therapy, some music. just vibe out for a bit and ease into it.. NO need to go hammer if shes's no nail. Our hormones work different.. testosterone its easy to get hot and horny.. for women, they might need some time

3) Turn on a movie, (ive had girls turn on boring ass movies and i couldnt understand why they chose it till it clicked like.. Ohh.. OHHHokayy I see" .(hint for you the not so sharp : they want to have se.x instead) . It doesn't have to be boring. Just not something where she'll actually want to end up watching till the end.

4) If shes into it, watch porn together. "Nothing like watching other sexy people f- to get turned on" .. Make sure whatever you're watching is appropriate for her too. im not sure if she wants to watch "HUGE ASS COMPILATION #23" or "Cumshot Facial Compilation #23"

I also hear this quite often from one of my chick friends whos super sexually promiscuous (prob has like a 30-40 bodycount which isnt crazy but enough to be considered promiscous).. She will really really like a guy, but sometimes she just wont be turned on when they're about to have sex. So she'll like tell him what he needs to do at times like mentoring a teenage boy lmao. (She str8 up treats some dudes like bitc.hes because she can sense how inexperienced they are...)

 

[corsica]

That’s a good example of what separate kids from men.
Men are prepared. I have food, drinks, snacks, playlist ready, condoms, lube, fresh bed sheets, sparkling clean bathroom…

When I take a girl home, I play music asap to keep the mood and I grab drinks from my fridge. I like to prepare a ****tail instead of wine because I feel sleepy after a single glass. I also don’t like to watch TV together. I prefer to put my playlist or if you don’t know what to play, you can leave the audio on in some nice YouTube videos that play aerial imagery with electronic music. This is a nice channel:

I like to download the video to avoid interruptions (and ads). Put that video on your TV and start kissing her in the sofa. You can bang her on the sofa and/or take her to your bed.

 

[Nerevar]

Useful advice, if she's not turned on, she's not wet, she'll stop before it.

let her know what you want to do to her when you see her.. sexy texts/provacative texts/dirty pics exchanging -> Ok, so creating expectations.

have some drinks first, /shots.. Maybe put on some aroma therapy, some music. just vibe out for a bit and ease into it -> Ok, so you need some buildup.

Turn on a movie. It doesn't have to be boring. Just not something where she'll actually want to end up watching till the end. -> Ok, so even more expectations. Netflix & chill.

If shes into it, watch porn together. Make sure whatever you're watching is appropriate for her too. im not sure if she wants to watch. -> Pretty good one actually.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

1) Create a sexual vibe from the start of the date to begin with. Yeah sometimes dudes are lazy and oblivious.. Some of us are just living in the present moment.. no time to plan ahead.. But, some easy ways to create sexual vibes from the beginning: let her know what you want to do to her when you see her.. sexy texts/provacative texts/dirty pics exchanging .. simple sh.t - When you see her, make it sexual from the jump .. get some hands on that ass, slap that as.s. grab those hips, dont hesitate to kiss her.. let her know how you feel.. Don't wait till you get back home to do this. If you're afraid of PDA, you're in the wrong business. at.

What mate. That usually only works if you've already banged her. If you show her sexual attention and thirst right away that can backfire and blow up the sexual tension ("I wonder if he even wants me".. is what you want her thinking.) PDA is good, any kind of physical contact...but surely you're not trying to say you spank a girls ass right when meeting her for the first time.

Useful advice, if she's not turned on, she's not wet, she'll stop before it.

That's not true. Sometimes women will go along with it even if they're not fully turned on.

 

[RazorRambo24]

What mate. That usually only works if you've already banged her. If you show her sexual attention and thirst right away that can backfire and blow up the sexual tension ("I wonder if he even wants me".. is what you want her thinking.) PDA is good, any kind of physical contact...but surely you're not trying to say you spank a girls ass right when meeting her for the first time.



That's not true. Sometimes women will go along with it even if they're not fully turned on.

Nah most Online game is based on creating sexual attraction before even meeting the person. The idea though is you're going after women who are down to have sex /hookup, niot those who want a long term relationship

Useful advice, if she's not turned on, she's not wet, she'll stop before it.

let her know what you want to do to her when you see her.. sexy texts/provacative texts/dirty pics exchanging -> Ok, so creating expectations.

have some drinks first, /shots.. Maybe put on some aroma therapy, some music. just vibe out for a bit and ease into it -> Ok, so you need some buildup.

Turn on a movie. It doesn't have to be boring. Just not something where she'll actually want to end up watching till the end. -> Ok, so even more expectations. Netflix & chill.

If shes into it, watch porn together. Make sure whatever you're watching is appropriate for her too. im not sure if she wants to watch. -> Pretty good one actually.

You got it.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

That’s a good example of what separate kids from men.
Men are prepared. I have food, drinks, snacks, playlist ready, condoms, lube, fresh bed sheets, sparkling clean bathroom…

When I take a girl home, I play music asap to keep the mood and I grab drinks from my fridge. I like to prepare a ****tail instead of wine because I feel sleepy after a single glass. I also don’t like to watch TV together. I prefer to put my playlist or if you don’t know what to play, you can leave the audio on in some nice YouTube videos that play aerial imagery with electronic music. This is a nice channel:

I like to download the video to avoid interruptions (and ads). Put that video on your TV and start kissing her in the sofa. You can bang her on the sofa and/or take her to your bed.

that video looks dope and 3D on my 83" sony OLED uhd 4K screen.

 

[BadBoy89]

That’s a good example of what separate kids from men.
Men are prepared. I have food, drinks, snacks, playlist ready, condoms, lube, fresh bed sheets, sparkling clean bathroom…

Holy crap.

I agree with the bathroom and sheets, but the rest of the stuff? I’m never ready. I could care less. She is not a virgin.

I once brought a girl home and had nothing, I was like ”here is some strawberry yogurt”

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Holy crap.

I agree with the bathroom and sheets, but the rest of the stuff? I’m never ready. I could care less. She is not a virgin.

I once brought a girl home and had nothing, I was like ”here is some strawberry yogurt”

no sh1t dawg. The beezy could have other dudes on tap and im over here giving her the 5 star hospitality virgin treatment. f that. you already doing alot taking her inside your sanctuary.
I usually just give them a bottle of water or fresh orange juice out of basic courtesy.

If she dont give off slvtty vibes and acts proper then maybe I'll throw a costco pizza in the oven if she gets hungry after she gives me the booty.
I end up just throwing one in cause Im high as a jet of that cali dank.

 

[manfrombelow]

I think when a woman agrees to come to your house knowing full well it's just you and her, she's at least 80% down to fvck.

The remaining 20%, however, is your job to make things happen.

I mean, in this regard, never forget women are emotional which means they are not to be expected to act like men.

Like @corsica said, as a man, you have to take the lead in prepping the most suitable environment for sex to happen, including the right kind of ambient music, lube, condoms (especially condoms because some women just won't fvck you no matter how much horny she is without condoms), snacks, drinks, etc...

A woman getting LMR (last-minute resistance) mostly means you haven't prepped well enough to make her want to fvck you at that moment.

 

[Fruitbat]

Never had this issue. Genuinely. I’ve had times when my partner took a bit of rubbing to loosen things up a wee bit.

Mkre often it’s been me. My first proper lay I withered under the lights and couldn’t get one up lol - too nervous. Quite a few times I was just high off my box on E or coke and it’s very difficult - especially with someone new. A LT gf is actually really fun.

I think generally if faced with this you will gain a lot of kudos if you just shrug it off, express a tiny bit of disappointment and then suggest you watch a movie. Note: don’t lose your shyt in a pent up rage lol, that is the natural reaction to be fair.

if you demonstrate you DGAF too much about it - shows abundance mindset, self control, and it makes the incident about her lack of performance instead of your inability to cope.

I’ve had times when a woman has just said she’s not in the mood - rather than wanting to but dry as a Sahara. In those circumstances I’ve lost my shyt and others times I’ve been like “meh, ok next time”. The latter makes one feel very powerful, a man in control of his desires is a very accomplished man, and stands out.

 

[member160292]

Never had this issue. Genuinely. I’ve had times when my partner took a bit of rubbing to loosen things up a wee bit.

Mkre often it’s been me. My first proper lay I withered under the lights and couldn’t get one up lol - too nervous. Quite a few times I was just high off my box on E or coke and it’s very difficult - especially with someone new. A LT gf is actually really fun.

I think generally if faced with this you will gain a lot of kudos if you just shrug it off, express a tiny bit of disappointment and then suggest you watch a movie. Note: don’t lose your shyt in a pent up rage lol, that is the natural reaction to be fair.

if you demonstrate you DGAF too much about it - shows abundance mindset, self control, and it makes the incident about her lack of performance instead of your inability to cope.

I’ve had times when a woman has just said she’s not in the mood - rather than wanting to but dry as a Sahara. In those circumstances I’ve lost my shyt and others times I’ve been like “meh, ok next time”. The latter makes one feel very powerful, a man in control of his desires is a very accomplished man, and stands out.

Being indifferent whether you have sex or not is a powerful tool. You take that carrot away from her and get her wanting more

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Also never get caught in what I call "No Man's Land" where you do some things but don't end up smashing...like her stroking your c0ck or her giving you a BJ or you getting her shirt off and sucking on her titties but then it never progresses any farther...

It's actually better if you just made out and didn't try and go for it rather than end up in dreaded "No Man's Land". Almost without fail if you end up here you will not see the woman again. Women want a guy who knows how to close the deal not one that can't figure out how to get from Point A to Point B to Point C.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Also never get caught in what I call "No Man's Land" where you do some things but don't end up smashing...like her stroking your c0ck or her giving you a BJ or you getting her shirt off and sucking on her titties but then it never progresses any farther...

It's actually better if you just made out and didn't try and go for it rather than end up in dreaded "No Man's Land". Almost without fail if you end up here you will not see the woman again. Women want a guy who knows how to close the deal not one that can't figure out how to get from Point A to Point B to Point C.

I would agree, and I've had this happen a few times in the last year and I really hated it enough to remember each instance. In my experience, if a girl agrees to come over on a first date, the chances of dealing with LMR are indeed quite low... but once in a blue moon I get weird ones who are clearly turned on and they'll give a BJ or I'll finger them, but for the life of me I just cannot seal the deal somehow. I usually don't have the patience to deal with LMR and I choose to just cut my losses after 2-3 attempts.

Two examples:

I drove to some divorcees' home (who I never met before) on a weekday. Watched TV and took a while to escalate (maybe 20 min) but later she put on lingerie for me then sucked my **** and she was soaking wet and complimenting me a lot, but then said she wont' fvck on first dates. I tried to be forceful and yet tactful and relaxed - at one point literally hoisted myself on top of her and started rubbing my **** on her ***** but at the cost of getting a rape charged I backed off because I could just tell she wasn't totally with it, but it may have been a test, usually when a girl says no though I don't risk it.

Last week had a similar issue, date went super well and she literally initiated physical contact (for instance grabbed my hand and put it on her to show me cold she was) then when we get to my place she asks me to crack her back by grabbing her from behind and lifting her, and even lied down so I could massage her back for a sec.

We cuddled super intimately and watched a movie, during which we kissed a lot on and off. I start playing with her tits, then start fingering her, slapping her ass, and take her to my room, she ends up completely naked but I had no condom so maybe that was the issue, but somehow it just doesn't happen. I can never tell if it's a situation where they want me to just "go for it" or if forcibly going for it is basically rape, I know a lot of women have literal rape fantasies but that just makes me uncomfortable.

 

[Gamisch]

I would agree, and I've had this happen a few times in the last year and I really hated it enough to remember each instance. In my experience, if a girl agrees to come over on a first date, the chances of dealing with LMR are indeed quite low... but once in a blue moon I get weird ones who are clearly turned on and they'll give a BJ or I'll finger them, but for the life of me I just cannot seal the deal somehow. I usually don't have the patience to deal with LMR and I choose to just cut my losses after 2-3 attempts.

Two examples:

I drove to some divorcees' home (who I never met before) on a weekday. Watched TV and took a while to escalate (maybe 20 min) but later she put on lingerie for me then sucked my **** and she was soaking wet and complimenting me a lot, but then said she wont' fvck on first dates. I tried to be forceful and yet tactful and relaxed - at one point literally hoisted myself on top of her and started rubbing my **** on her ***** but at the cost of getting a rape charged I backed off because I could just tell she wasn't totally with it, but it may have been a test, usually when a girl says no though I don't risk it.

Last week had a similar issue, date went super well and she literally initiated physical contact (for instance grabbed my hand and put it on her to show me cold she was) then when we get to my place she asks me to crack her back by grabbing her from behind and lifting her, and even lied down so I could massage her back for a sec.

We cuddled super intimately and watched a movie, during which we kissed a lot on and off. I start playing with her tits, then start fingering her, slapping her ass, and take her to my room, she ends up completely naked but I had no condom so maybe that was the issue, but somehow it just doesn't happen. I can never tell if it's a situation where they want me to just "go for it" or if forcibly going for it is basically rape, I know a lot of women have literal rape fantasies but that just makes me uncomfortable.

I had one girl who (ofcourse) loved to be roughly " manhandled "and was freaky AF, but at the same time could have a day where she acted like a innocent girl and said she didn't felt like having sex. During those moments I've noticed that she would stop me for 95% , just left the door open for a subtle 5%. From that point she made me work my way up to getting in her panties more and more. After a few times the I was able to read her better ofcourse , and she LOVED me for going along with her act without ever judging her or even saying something about it. Obviously this was a girl i was fecking already.

But i do know I've pussied out on MANY occasions with women who did the same thing. Good example is the "lets just make out and nothing more "test. Or the ,I'll sleep with you and spoon your stiff D but no sex " . When a man actually agrees wity it she'll probably be disappointed. It's a simple test to see how you respond to it with your ACTIONS. She basically saying: " slow it down sir, why don't you first seduce me some more?".

It takes experience to be able to read a woman and see if her bodylangue is congruent with her words.

Last thing we would want is some dude saying he got charged with rape allegations because he read a forum about pushing it or not giving up too quick. But I do think its a way for women to determine what type of men she's dealing with. The more beta a man is, the less he will push. Because more experienced men will at least try a little more.

 

[The Duke]

I had a girl that I had been out with twice. On the third date we ended up in bed and she is naked except her panties are still on. Made a few attempts at taking them off and got shut down.

I had created plenty of comfort and did the proper ground work, I knew what I was doing. It came down to this chic overvalued her pu$$y. She thought she was some "good" girl and I needed to keep impressing her. I was done wining and dineing. I decided right then I wasn't taking her out ever again.

She kept texting/calling for a few weeks after hoping I'd take her out again. Lol. Then she asked if I was seeing someone. Silly girl.
How it goes sometimes.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I had a girl that I had been out with twice. On the third date we ended up in bed and she is naked except her panties are still on. Made a few attempts at taking them off and got shut down.

I had created plenty of comfort and did the proper ground work, I knew what I was doing. It came down to this chic overvalued her pu$$y. She thought she was some "good" girl and I needed to keep impressing her. I was done wining and dineing. I decided right then I wasn't taking her out ever again.

She kept texting/calling for a few weeks after hoping I'd take her out again. Lol. Then she asked if I was seeing someone. Silly girl.
How it goes sometimes.

I beg to differ sir, imo you could have screened her better.

 

[SW15]

I had a girl that I had been out with twice. On the third date we ended up in bed and she is naked except her panties are still on. Made a few attempts at taking them off and got shut down.

I had created plenty of comfort and did the proper ground work, I knew what I was doing. It came down to this chic overvalued her pu$$y. She thought she was some "good" girl and I needed to keep impressing her. I was done wining and dineing. I decided right then I wasn't taking her out ever again.

She kept texting/calling for a few weeks after hoping I'd take her out again. Lol. Then she asked if I was seeing someone. Silly girl.
How it goes sometimes.

That is some serious LMR, which I do not tolerate. You did not tolerate her LMR either. Good for you.

I would tend to think that this LMR was from a woman 33-37 as women beyond their early 30s tend to overvalue their pusssies but that's usually done prior to taking her top off. The fact that her tits were out would make me think the woman was under 30 when she pulled that stunt.

You had the abundance to walk away from the situation.

you could have screened her better.

How would a man screen for a woman who would put up too much Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) and Last Minute Resistance (LMR) like that?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

That is some serious LMR, which I do not tolerate. You did not tolerate her LMR either. Good for you.

I would tend to think that this LMR was from a woman 33-37 as women beyond their early 30s tend to overvalue their pusssies but that's usually done prior to taking her top off. The fact that her tits were out would make me think the woman was under 30 when she pulled that stunt.

You had the abundance to walk away from the situation.



How would a man screen for a woman who would put up too much Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) and Last Minute Resistance (LMR) like that?

See if she's open to a casual first date and engage in sexual flirtation to gauge her for high interest. A woman like this won't allow herself to "be vulnerable" like that and will also insist on fancy initial meets/dates.

All of these behaviors fall under the umbrella of "magic pu$sy syndrome". (Which is sourced from member JosephWentSouth (JWS) on the old fastseduction forum)

 

[The Duke]

That is some serious LMR, which I do not tolerate. You did not tolerate her LMR either. Good for you.

I would tend to think that this LMR was from a woman 33-37 as women beyond their early 30s tend to overvalue their pusssies but that's usually done prior to taking her top off. The fact that her tits were out would make me think the woman was under 30 when she pulled that stunt.

You had the abundance to walk away from the situation.



How would a man screen for a woman who would put up too much Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) and Last Minute Resistance (LMR) like that?

She was mid 30's.

 

[The Duke]

I beg to differ sir, imo you could have screened her better.

You're a wise man. Yes, her "price" was too high from the start. She wasnt exactly a submissive personality either. The hunter in me wanted a challenge. Sometimes satisfying that ego clouds your vision and you miss some of the details that were flags during the screening process.