Why women suck and why love is ftw

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Right I'm going to mash loads of stuff together into one shining and wonderful post. Slap on my name tag and feel a sting of pride about its awesomeness.

A few years ago I stopped giving a ****. By giving a **** I mean giving a **** about women. You see once upon a time there was a guy called ATP who arrived at sosuave and wanting to find a woman he could love but when he arrived he got told that the way to be alpha and great is to **** and approach women, measure penis size and like... caress other mens asses... hm. that last one might have been from that gay porn site...

Anyway. ATP started ****ing women... and approaching them. He listened to girl talk... and talk... and talk... and ****ing talk even more. Since ATP got higher IQ than 99.67% of the entire population he found these conversations dull, unimaginitive and utterly ****ing facepalm. Yet he endured. He learned ways to spark the interest in women and how to find good ways to maintain that interest. The only problem being: a: He wasn't interested in pure sex and b: the women weren't really candidates for LTR.

One day after especially much "...and talk and talk and talk" ATP got fed up and rejected that woman even though she was interested. He found out the cold, bitter and sad truth about women which he will reveal a little later. Suffice to say ATP stopped approaching women, he stopped giving a rats ass if women were interested in him or not or if his behavior was attractive in womens eyes. He found something he could love and care for... himself.

Women started to become grey and lifeless to him because he knew they were just clones with appearances that differed a little. The same opinions, the same values, the same mediocricy. ATP found out that dragging some random girl home from a pub for some bad sex was a waste of good time and that he could have a good time with his friends and if need be, jerk off to some porn that didn't give him STDs. :up:

One might expect that ATP would get no women at all, even though he didn't want just any. ATP continued to improve himself. To build up a good body, to get an education, to hone his skills and enjoying himself with his hobbies. Since women didn't matter **** to him because he found them utterly unintersting there would be no trouble talking to them at all. Women would check ATP out because of his awesomeness in both brains and brawn.

So ATP found a new route in life. He would engage people in a social way, he would talk to women, he would study their characteristics. Study them well.
Because when you stop caring about women you get the unique chance of sorting out women with minimal time loss. Then sometimes there would be women who weren't just
grey and lifeless like a xerox copy. Women with a wonderful mind and a beautiful body. Such a worthy woman for ATPs love. A woman who would succeed in creating interest where so many others had failed.

With a woman like this ATP would let the feelings flow wild and feel the enchanting and penetrating high of love. That's what we live for right? Oneitis... oneitis... mmm.. lovely oneitis. I do admit being under its effect at the moment and it's about bloody time too.


When I read all the posts on this forums and seeing "Did I call too soon" "What is a good way to increase interest when in a group situation?" I wonder why you guys really care that much. Women are worthless, they are more boring to talk to than men, they got no humor, they very rarely have any interesting opinions, etc... their only redeeming factor is their bodies.

So... why do you waste so much time entertaining mediocre and boring women callin
g it "seduction"?
Why do you waste so much time trying to create interest in a woman who is utterly average and who doesn't put any effort in herself (other than appearance)?
If you are interested in a LTR why are you wasting time on bad ONS?
If you used all the time you're wasting on PUA **** what could you manage to do with that time? Learn to sing, get in shape, learn a new language, play a instrument?

This PuA stuff sounds a lot like obsessive compulsive disorder. Just doing stuff for the heck of it. :nervous:
 

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interesting..........
 

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Your average guy will have a curiosity to explore different women, that's why they put so much effort. A lot of chemicals are released in their brain when they hook up with girls, like the way it used to be for me.

As you do something many times, it starts to lose value.

This is true of women, drugs, sports etc. You get desinsetized of it after a while.

So what exactly is your conclusion? What are you trying to get at?

Are you saying men should not be trying to hook up with women?

I believe life is the pursuit of happiness and everyone is free to their own choices.

If learning a new language makes you happier than getting laid, go for it. If being a billionare is more important than being a ladiesman, go for that.

Neither one is better or worse. Only you can judge how happy you are.
 

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Sorry but I couldn't read your multi-colored thread, hurt my eyes. Though I do agree with you on a point, women suck!!
 

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Scion said:
Sorry but I couldn't read your multi-colored thread, hurt my eyes. Though I do agree with you on a point, women suck!!
This
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

RMM

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Scion said:
Sorry but I couldn't read your multi-colored thread, hurt my eyes. Though I do agree with you on a point, women suck!!
I thought the problem was that women don't suck enough?
 

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Metaphysical said:
Your average guy will have a curiosity to explore different women, that's why they put so much effort. A lot of chemicals are released in their brain when they hook up with girls, like the way it used to be for me.

As you do something many times, it starts to lose value.

This is true of women, drugs, sports etc. You get desinsetized of it after a while.

So what exactly is your conclusion? What are you trying to get at?

Are you saying men should not be trying to hook up with women?

I believe life is the pursuit of happiness and everyone is free to their own choices.

If learning a new language makes you happier than getting laid, go for it. If being a billionare is more important than being a ladiesman, go for that.

Neither one is better or worse. Only you can judge how happy you are.

The conclusion is that I refuse to believe that everyone came here with the intent of getting laid. Is there really no one else who came here because they were looking for the whole package? Sex, love and lust all neatly packed together? For some I do understand that just having sex is enough. But there must be people who just finds that thing really... unfullfilling after a while. It fulfill that need for sex but the inside is strangely untouched.

The advice on this site is mostly about how to manage to sleep with someone or how to manage situations with the intent of looking like a high status person. The criteria which matters the most is one: looks as seen when looking at the nomenclature here "HBX, where X is a number over 5". Every behavior is modelled so that you get maximum amount of chance of getting laid. Popularity, behavior and thought patterns are all connected to getting laid.

For the guys who came here and were looking for more than sex this advice isn't really top notch. I do agree that you should improve yourself as much as possible but there are so many "rules" which can be broken in so many situations that someone who follows them will end up driving away the women who would be good for a LTR and instead attract the more slutty ones.

It is only natural that looks is great when it comes to sex. A personality is great but a good looking woman is much more pleasing to have in bed than an ugly one.

I'm not really saying men should and should not do something. What you said "I believe life is the pursuit of happiness and everyone is free to their own choices." is congruent with what I believe as well. People seem to be trapped in this anorexic belief system which ends up taking their choice away. LTR and love is seen as little better than being AFC, well as long as you're the "man" in relationships that is.

What people fail to realize is that nothing strenghten a man more than having a woman who is backing him up. Alone you can accomplish loads but with a woman who believes in you you can do so much more. Look at history. Nearly every great man have had some woman pushing or supporting him. It is not for nothing there's a saying about it "Behind every great man stands a woman". Love does something with a man that smashes all boundries aside, you become fearless and unstoppable.

Maybe it is time we take sex down from its pedistal or put "love" up on a similar one.

I guess that is my conclusion.
 

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ATP, I will agree with this: Just getting laid is not enough. For some guys here, that is all they care about. And that's fine, to each his own. But I agree there is more to women than just sex. When I was younger, I went through that phase where I was going for one night stands. And I realized ulitmately it was not satisfying.

That multicolored post was horrible, by the way.
 

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ATP said:
Right I'm going to mash loads of stuff together into one shining and wonderful post. Slap on my name tag and feel a sting of pride about its awesomeness.

A few years ago I stopped giving a ****. By giving a **** I mean giving a **** about women. You see once upon a time there was a guy called ATP who arrived at sosuave and wanting to find a woman he could love but when he arrived he got told that the way to be alpha and great is to **** and approach women, measure penis size and like... caress other mens asses... hm. that last one might have been from that gay porn site...

Anyway. ATP started ****ing women... and approaching them. He listened to girl talk... and talk... and talk... and ****ing talk even more. Since ATP got higher IQ than 99.67% of the entire population he found these conversations dull, unimaginitive and utterly ****ing facepalm. Yet he endured. He learned ways to spark the interest in women and how to find good ways to maintain that interest. The only problem being: a: He wasn't interested in pure sex and b: the women weren't really candidates for LTR.

One day after especially much "...and talk and talk and talk" ATP got fed up and rejected that woman even though she was interested. He found out the cold, bitter and sad truth about women which he will reveal a little later. Suffice to say ATP stopped approaching women, he stopped giving a rats ass if women were interested in him or not or if his behavior was attractive in womens eyes. He found something he could love and care for... himself.

Women started to become grey and lifeless to him because he knew they were just clones with appearances that differed a little. The same opinions, the same values, the same mediocricy. ATP found out that dragging some random girl home from a pub for some bad sex was a waste of good time and that he could have a good time with his friends and if need be, jerk off to some porn that didn't give him STDs. :up:

One might expect that ATP would get no women at all, even though he didn't want just any. ATP continued to improve himself. To build up a good body, to get an education, to hone his skills and enjoying himself with his hobbies. Since women didn't matter **** to him because he found them utterly unintersting there would be no trouble talking to them at all. Women would check ATP out because of his awesomeness in both brains and brawn.

So ATP found a new route in life. He would engage people in a social way, he would talk to women, he would study their characteristics. Study them well.
Because when you stop caring about women you get the unique chance of sorting out women with minimal time loss. Then sometimes there would be women who weren't just grey and lifeless like a xerox copy. Women with a wonderful mind and a beautiful body. Such a worthy woman for ATPs love. A woman who would succeed in creating interest where so many others had failed.

With a woman like this ATP would let the feelings flow wild and feel the enchanting and penetrating high of love. That's what we live for right? Oneitis... oneitis... mmm.. lovely oneitis. I do admit being under its effect at the moment and it's about bloody time too.


When I read all the posts on this forums and seeing "Did I call too soon" "What is a good way to increase interest when in a group situation?" I wonder why you guys really care that much. Women are worthless, they are more boring to talk to than men, they got no humor, they very rarely have any interesting opinions, etc... their only redeeming factor is their bodies.

So... why do you waste so much time entertaining mediocre and boring women calling it "seduction"?
Why do you waste so much time trying to create interest in a woman who is utterly average and who doesn't put any effort in herself (other than appearance)?
If you are interested in a LTR why are you wasting time on bad ONS?
If you used all the time you're wasting on PUA **** what could you manage to do with that time? Learn to sing, get in shape, learn a new language, play a instrument?

This PuA stuff sounds a lot like obsessive compulsive disorder. Just doing stuff for the heck of it. :nervous:

I like this post, but not the color scheme, made it hard to read.

Some good points ATP.

I believe the answer lies in the power of Puss8, some men will do anything for it and bend themselves out of shape for it too and ignore red flags galour for the chance to attain the pink Chalice.

Though people have to start somewhere and just like yourself, you progressed, but one needs a starting block or one needs to start the race first.
 

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We attracted to women because of the visual appeal, not personality.

The boobs, the ass, the face, the legs, the hips and the hair.

In no part of deciding whether or not we would like bang a girl does personality, interests, iq or anything wussy of that nature come into play.

Non visual aspects are just an excuse we make after we get rejected or more often than not, after we dont make a move. Its similiar to when girls say they want nice guys, we talk crap as a result of our failures.

I have no idea what cheryl cole is like in person, but i would trade in my gf any day for her.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I agree with ATP

...I feel the truth of your post and replies ATP. If you follow everything on this website, you are right, it is very possible to push away a good girl who would be great for a LTR.

The methods and tactics on this website have some value. There is an underlying message that you've got to love yourself -- you've got to be working to improve yourself. But beyond that, when you get into some of the specifics, they can at times be very rude ways of human interaction.

If I live to be 80 years old and look back on my life -- what am I going to think about more? The random sex (with a human I may have only slightly bonded with beyond the physical) I had in my lifetime, or the truly meaningful people I encountered during my lifetime? The people who changed me in some manner for the better? We change ourselves. But as we deepen our interaction with others in life, they change us too.

I came to this website out of frustration. Being a good looking guy, a nice guy, charismatic, but always falling locked into the -friendzone-, or into the, you're-great-and-all-but-not-for-sex.

And this website has helped me learn some tactics that have improved my mentality towards women, and has led to some personal successes.

But going too deep here may sacrifice a part of the human psyche related to compassion, love, understanding. This may sound cliche, but its the ****ing truth. Because there are married couples who really love each other, wouldn't cheat on each other, value one another's presence in their life, and work to keep their love alive. There is more to life than the neurotransmitter dump accompanied with sexuality and sexual release.
 

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Thanks for the great reply Buddha. Long since I saw a quality reply in a while :)

Ease: I don't think we can agree on that. Hot women with a bad personality makes me feel repulsed by her, to the point where I wouldn't be able to **** her.
 

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ATP said:
Ease: I don't think we can agree on that. Hot women with a bad personality makes me feel repulsed by her, to the point where I wouldn't be able to **** her.
Well this is weird:You and Ease have a disagreement about the reasons for wanting to have sex with a "hot" girl and yet I agree with both of you.


Ease was right about how we guys are attracted to women. It is the boobs,the hips,the hair,etc.



If you see a hot woman walking down the street,you're attraction to her is based SOLELY on her appearance.


It's not like you see her personality walking along side her and go,"Woah...look at sense of loyalty on her,or "Mmm,look at that sweet attitude on that girl".


So I agree with Ease on that,but the thing you said about a bad personality repulsing you is true too.



If a girl has a bad personality and I mean if it REALLY sucks,to the point of even thinking about her makes you sick,then I don't care how "hot" she is,you'll want nothing to do with her.



To me,a bad personality on a "hot" girl is like insecurity in a handsome/attractive guy. A girl might think a guy is "hot",but if he's needy,clingy,and insecure,all of those things will cancel out his "hotness".



If an attractive women has a really bad personality,I might still be turned on to her....from a distance. If I could just see her ONLY,without hearing her,then fine,but once I hear that fowl,ugly personailty coming out of her,it simply turns me off.
 
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