Why WOMEN SLEEP with LOSERS or BUMS and always LEAVE GOOD QUALITY MEN

[Pandora]

Guys in 2024 being the Alpha good guy equals FAILURE.

You are not dealing with healthy females. You are dealing with 99% of the time, broken, ran through, damaged, traumatized females. Typically this is what the majority of Western women are.

It's just your turn with her.. You have two choices Infront of you.

01. Be the good guy & if you're lucky she will stick around for 8-12 months maximum.

02. Be the toxic, emotionally unavailable jerk, and she will stick around for 6-8 years and give you her peak years of beauty, then eventually leave when she has had enough.

I choose option 2 every single time.

If you want to be the Alpha good guy & want her to stay with you for a lifetime.. Best design a time machine & send yourself back to the 1950's.

Can I add some nuance to this one brother. I don't think most women like the toxic emotionally unavailable jerk. I think they like them IN SPITE of being a jerk. No ugly dude is going to have women stick around because he is toxic and emotionally unavailable.

Hot guys can be toxic and emotionally unavailable and it works. It's like when women say " Men Like Bitches" ( there was a book by that name). No men don't like bytches. We let hot chicks be bytches.

Yes the super damaged BPD girls do like toxic men though.

 

[Pandora]

Which dude hasn't been hurt by a female..

Those good woman don't exist in the Western world & if they do, they are rare as fuk.

99% of men have been hurt by a chick in current times INCLUDING YOU, so that shaming tactic doesn't really work lol.

I'm simply speaking facts.. In the Western world a good woman is a UNICORN.

The vast majority of Western Women are ran through, depressed, broken, or delusional.

Good luck with being the "Good Guy" with females who are broken on the mental level.

It's all well & good saying "Walk Away" how many times are you going to Walk Away?

You going to walk away till your age 65 lol

Purely from a statistical point of view.. The chances of you finding a woman who appreciates your "Good" qualities is pretty damn slim..

The chances of her sticking around with you, because your a challenge & will not invest in her, are way way higher.

This is facts though. Men gotta to accept that they have to settle. It is what it is. If you want kids you are going to have to deal with a chick that has something wrong with her. A good woman has been a rarity even in Bible times. It is even worse now. Even the chicks overseas are trash.

For a girl to be a good woman she has to have had a perfect nuclear family upbringing in a wholesome society. What percentage of the world population has that? We have to get this idea of a 1960s housewife out of our heads. That was a myth even back then. Those chicks were banging the milk man etc

Proverbs 31:10-31 MEV
Who can find a virtuous woman? For her worth is far above rubies. The heart of her husband safely trusts in her, so that he will have no lack of gain. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

 

[zekko]

Those guys need to file prenups and most do. Divorce courts do favor females.

Too often, the prenups don't hold up though.

Hot guys can be toxic and emotionally unavailable and it works. It's like when women say " Men Like Bitches" ( there was a book by that name). No men don't like bytches. We let hot chicks be bytches.

Men like women who are hot. Unfortunately, a lot of hot women are bytches. But those hot women would be 1,000 times more appealing if they were pleasant and submissive. Acting like a bytch will overshadow a woman's beauty, and ultimately destroy it. Nothing can ruin a woman's beauty like a bytchy attitude. Those women become useless

 

[The Duke]

Which dude hasn't been hurt by a female..

Those good woman don't exist in the Western world & if they do, they are rare as fuk.

99% of men have been hurt by a chick in current times INCLUDING YOU, so that shaming tactic doesn't really work lol.

I'm simply speaking facts.. In the Western world a good woman is a UNICORN.

The vast majority of Western Women are ran through, depressed, broken, or delusional.

Good luck with being the "Good Guy" with females who are broken on the mental level.

It's all well & good saying "Walk Away" how many times are you going to Walk Away?

You going to walk away till your age 65 lol

Purely from a statistical point of view.. The chances of you finding a woman who appreciates your "Good" qualities is pretty damn slim..

From my own numbers, I've been with 77 women. Less than 5% of those were long term material. These were girls with solid looks and good brains. I made LTR's out of 3 of them. So yep it's rare, we have to play the cards we are dealt. And a man must always be prepared to walk. Nothing lasts forever anymore. I will keep walking until I''m dead If I have to.

 

[Westminster]

Many men are very poor at screening, which is where these issues would be found. The problem is these issues aren't found by most guys until they are in an LTR or married, then they try and do something about it.

Wrong. The time to do something about it was before you got into the LTR by either walking away or making her prove herself to you and then ensuring she actually was being serious about those changes.

Bottom line is most men refuse to believe when the woman tells or shows you who they are, even if they are screaming it at you from the rooftop.

How do you fix this? Believe them and stop ignoring obvious issues that get overlooked because she is hot or is great in bed. Most guys screen for superficial qualities that are meaningless in an LTR then wonder why they get destroyed by these women.

Spot on. This is exactly what happened to me with my marriage.

I have always been a poor screener but at least I am now aware of that - and would like to think I'll be better going forward.

 

[soulforge]

Can I add some nuance to this one brother. I don't think most women like the toxic emotionally unavailable jerk. I think they like them IN SPITE of being a jerk. No ugly dude is going to have women stick around because he is toxic and emotionally unavailable.

Hot guys can be toxic and emotionally unavailable and it works. It's like when women say " Men Like Bitches" ( there was a book by that name). No men don't like bytches. We let hot chicks be bytches.

Yes the super damaged BPD girls do like toxic men though.

Agreed you make a good point. I believe the more damaged they are, the higher chance they find themselves attracted to the Toxic traits in men.

I suppose it's about levels & identifying degree's of damage in females.

High body count is a good indicator on how fuked up she is, family background, upbringing & the fathers influence again is a good indicator.

I can only talk about how things are in the UK.. Dysfunctional households, single moms etc is the absolute normal here.

We are going to have to settle, and decide what level of crazy we are willing to deal with.

 

[SW15]

Too often, the prenups don't hold up though.

That would be bad if the prenup didn't hold up.

Men like women who are hot. Unfortunately, a lot of hot women are bytches. But those hot women would be 1,000 times more appealing if they were pleasant and submissive. Acting like a bytch will overshadow a woman's beauty, and ultimately destroy it. Nothing can ruin a woman's beauty like a bytchy attitude.

All true

I can only talk about how things are in the UK.. Dysfunctional households, single moms etc is the absolute normal here.

This is all normal in the USA as well.

High body count is a good indicator on how fuked up she is, family background, upbringing & the fathers influence again is a good indicator.

This is a good point and important point.

High notch count is more recreational use only. At best, this is a non-marital girlfriend that could last 2-3 years. Definitely don't get her pregnant because the goal is to walk away without ever having to interact with her again.

I've been with 77 women. Less than 5% of those were long term material. These were girls with solid looks and good brains. I made LTR's out of 3 of them. So yep it's rare, we have to play the cards we are dealt. And a man must always be prepared to walk. Nothing lasts forever anymore. I will keep walking until I''m dead If I have to.

We are going to have to settle, and decide what level of crazy we are willing to deal with.

This is good. @The Duke has an impressive lifetime notch count. Very few of his notches were LTR material.

Most women aren't marriage material. It's possible to get LTRs out of some higher notch count women but it would be unwise to make a legally binding commitment to them in marriage or impregnate them and have to co-parent with them after the relationship ends. There's a reason for Iron Rule of Tomassi #5 (use protection).

 

[kavi]

All women have to be seen through the Game. The Game is everything to women even if you dont get. Only in The Game are good men and bad men explained.

Good guys are simply the low level food in the game. Even bad boys can be low level food in the game if narcisstic women wanna 'outbad' you then the nad boys get dose of their medicine from similarly messed up women.

To be in the correct place one only needs to know about The Game. One should have badboy characteristics which in many ways balance the bad character and 'game' of women as women can truly have bad intentions.

But like a good boy one has to remain in control and limit his involvement with women who are beneath him so he can stay on his path.

 

[Manure Spherian]

High notch count is more recreational use only. At best, this is a non-marital girlfriend that could last 2-3 years. Definitely don't get her pregnant because the goal is to walk away without ever having to interact with her again.

What is the point of such “relationships”? As I’ve said, I have a very dim view of GF-BF/LTR, which I consider employer-employee situations, though I understand why men are in them. In most cases I think being a BF is a low position to be in.

My hierarchy of positions, as written as elsewhere is this:

1. Nuclear family formation (I use that term considering it’s better to use than marriage these days because marriage as a social institution has been degraded by the divorce industry).
2. Serious life partners, such as older people who might have had families but seek to have serious relationships for the rest of their lives.
3. MGTOW
4. Casual sex
5. Legal escort
6. Boyfriend-girlfriend/LTR (man or woman as employee or entertainer/court jester).

 

[CornbreadFed]

What is the point of such “relationships”? As I’ve said, I have a very dim view of GF-BF/LTR, which I consider employer-employee situations, though I understand why men are in them. In most cases I think being a BF is a low position to be in.

You are simply giving a woman what she wants.

 

[Manure Spherian]

You are simply giving a woman what she wants.

I’m not sure what context you’re referring to.

 

[Solomon]

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Spot on. This is exactly what happened to me with my marriage.

I have always been a poor screener but at least I am now aware of that - and would like to think I'll be better going forward.

I've come to the conclusion the biggest reason men are bad screeners are

1. Scarcity mindset- the average guy gets tired of having to meet a woman and courting her again. and again and again I've seen this with my friends who get complacent and end up in a ****ty relationship with a poor-behaved woman, Two of my recent friends got in relationships with women that I both warned them about (heck one we actually hooked up no sex 4 years before she met my buddy and she was red flag) needless to say they didn't listen and had to learn the hard way, make no mistake after those situations their scarcity dissipated because they finally realized their worth. Sometimes men have to learn the hard way especially when it comes to women.

2. Poor Screeners lot of guys (I've noticed on this forum too) get gas by a pretty girl and disregard her behavior, a woman has to have more than just be pretty woman or a "Baddie" to qualify. I see to many men let poor behavior slide from pretty girls just in hopes of clapping some cheeks not gonna lie I've been there but I usually don't try to make those girls my girlfriend or wife

I'm at the point where I have a "Gambit" I know within the first date if a girl is GF material or not. I simply do not go on a date wasting my time I have an agenda to screen the girl to see if I like her and two where she can fit in my life. Most men go on the first date just hoping to get their pencils wet lmfaoo

Game is Game

 

[CornbreadFed]

1. Scarcity mindset- the average guy gets tired of having to meet a woman and courting her again. and again and again I've seen this with my friends who get complacent and end up in a ****ty relationship with a poor-behaved woman, Two of my recent friends got in relationships with women that I both warned them about (heck one we actually hooked up no sex 4 years before she met my buddy and she was red flag) needless to say they didn't listen and had to learn the hard way, make no mistake after those situations their scarcity dissipated because they finally realized their worth. Sometimes men have to learn the hard way especially when it comes to women.

Dating is not fun for the average man and guys are willing to throw down a shvtty hand rather than deal with the mental abuse of dating women lol.

2. Poor Screeners lot of guys (I've noticed on this forum too) get gas by a pretty girl and disregard her behavior, a woman has to have more than just be pretty woman or a "Baddie" to qualify. I see to many men let poor behavior slide from pretty girls just in hopes of clapping some cheeks not gonna lie I've been there but I usually don't try to make those girls my girlfriend or wife

I think this coincides with a scarcity mindset. Guys know they are trying to wife up a garden tool, but they apply the hope strategy and stick their head in the sand.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

What I continue to find so funny is that many of you think you know your current gals count, do you really think it’s true? Haha Women are that most effective liars ever. You say you magically just know she’s sub-10, sure broheem, cope much?

Furthermore, you think you’re having crazing freaky sex with her because you taught her how, or because you’re just the most amazing fack ever? Think again stud.

The cognitive dissonance here is amusing.