Why women are so " complicated "

[Bingo-Player]

They are biologically hardwired as the inferior sex this means they will likely never be able to achieve what their male counterpart can

Whilst some try to, by doing so they adopt masculine tendencies and basically become impossible to romantically be with

So any woman who wishes to stay true to her Femininity HAS to stay within her mans shadow, she has to look up to him as her god

Now if you are a female and you are going to select a man , what type of man do you want ?

Do you want one that you can can walk all over ?

Do you want one that lusts after any beautiful woman he sees ?

DO you want one that crumbles under pressure ?

Do you want one that lacks respect ?

Do you want one that lacks control ?

Do you want one that Is scared to even approach you ?

I can tell you now if I was a woman I wouldn't want a man with any of the above
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Women view dating and secks a lot differently to us they have very little choice or control about what types of men approach them , they can't just go be dominant and approach every guy they fancy because that's not a feminine act

We just see a pretty lady we want to sleep with , we don't really care about anything else because if all fails we can just go and find another one we don't really risk much because we can't get pregnant and our wall is a lot later in life

A woman has to check all of the above SIMPLY to maintain her feminine polarity within the relationship and ensure her man is going to be able to maintain his role during their relationship

It's actually very very difficult for women too choose a man and that is why they play all of these games and do all of these tests

And whilst all of this can be very confusing and complicated for men She's just checking to see if your the kind of man she wants

Oh and another thing .....


IF she's checking chances are you aren't doing a good enough job at presenting yourself as the kind of man she should want to be with .

 

[Bokanovsky]

“Complicated” is just another word for damaged and messed up.

 

[Gamisch]

They are biologically hardwired as the inferior sex this means they will likely never be able to achieve what their male counterpart can

Whilst some try to, by doing so they adopt masculine tendencies and basically become impossible to romantically be with

So any woman who wishes to stay true to her Femininity HAS to stay within her mans shadow, she has to look up to him as her god

Now if you are a female and you are going to select a man , what type of man do you want ?

Do you want one that you can can walk all over ?

Do you want one that lusts after any beautiful woman he sees ?

DO you want one that crumbles under pressure ?

Do you want one that lacks respect ?

Do you want one that lacks control ?

Do you want one that Is scared to even approach you ?

I can tell you now if I was a woman I wouldn't want a man with any of the above
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Women view dating and secks a lot differently to us they have very little choice or control about what types of men approach them , they can't just go be dominant and approach every guy they fancy because that's not a feminine act

We just see a pretty lady we want to sleep with , we don't really care about anything else because if all fails we can just go and find another one we don't really risk much because we can't get pregnant and our wall is a lot later in life

A woman has to check all of the above SIMPLY to maintain her feminine polarity within the relationship and ensure her man is going to be able to maintain his role during their relationship

It's actually very very difficult for women too choose a man and that is why they play all of these games and do all of these tests

And whilst all of this can be very confusing and complicated for men She's just checking to see if your the kind of man she wants

Oh and another thing .....


IF she's checking chances are you aren't doing a good enough job at presenting yourself as the kind of man she should want to be with .

Can you please elaborate on the last sentence. What do you mean by "checking"?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Misogyny will get you nowhere with women. Firstly, it is important to acknowledge that men are not all the same, and it is both discourteous and offensive to compare any individual to certain individuals. With the considerable amount of disagreement and contentiousness observed on this forum and within the manosphere alone, that declaration is not correct.

Secondly, women are ordinary human beings who lead regular, uneventful lives like most people. For example, my girlfriend had work meetings, prepared meals during her lunch break, went to the gym after work, returned home for dinner, and enjoyed watching Netflix until bedtime. She was not neglecting her job to plot how to get a Chad/Toupac with a degree hybrid or engage in manipulative behavior to test me. The complexity of women is subjective and largely depends on how one perceives them mentally. Women are as complicated as you make them to be in your head.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Baloney. Most of the men I know who are married :happily" keep their women beneathe them. Its all n its presentation

and the most misogynist guy I know has been cheated on brutally by every girl he has dated and is consistently miserable & unhappy. I have never heard of the terms Incel and happiness being paired together.

 

[Gamisch]

They are biologically hardwired as the inferior sex this means they will likely never be able to achieve what their male counterpart can

Whilst some try to, by doing so they adopt masculine tendencies and basically become impossible to romantically be with

So any woman who wishes to stay true to her Femininity HAS to stay within her mans shadow, she has to look up to him as her god

Now if you are a female and you are going to select a man , what type of man do you want ?

Do you want one that you can can walk all over ?

Do you want one that lusts after any beautiful woman he sees ?

DO you want one that crumbles under pressure ?

Do you want one that lacks respect ?

Do you want one that lacks control ?

Do you want one that Is scared to even approach you ?

I can tell you now if I was a woman I wouldn't want a man with any of the above
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Women view dating and secks a lot differently to us they have very little choice or control about what types of men approach them , they can't just go be dominant and approach every guy they fancy because that's not a feminine act

We just see a pretty lady we want to sleep with , we don't really care about anything else because if all fails we can just go and find another one we don't really risk much because we can't get pregnant and our wall is a lot later in life

A woman has to check all of the above SIMPLY to maintain her feminine polarity within the relationship and ensure her man is going to be able to maintain his role during their relationship

It's actually very very difficult for women too choose a man and that is why they play all of these games and do all of these tests

And whilst all of this can be very confusing and complicated for men She's just checking to see if your the kind of man she wants

Oh and another thing .....


IF she's checking chances are you aren't doing a good enough job at presenting yourself as the kind of man she should want to be with .

I assume checking for otyer /better options? Hypergamy?

I'm starting to learn more and more that all we as men can do is (cliche bingo) be the best version(bvoy). That includes learning game.making sure that both the physical and psychological aspects are covered. Most men dont even put in the effort anyway. Like they say,if you are on welfare you are still in the top5% earners in tge world. Same with game; by doing your best to be that B.V.O.Y you ar already in the top 40/50 percentile of men, closer to that infamous 20% than you'd think...

Eventually a woman checking out something else is also part of the game, as her "checkbox" will also be somewhat fluid .The interesting part for a man to find out is:
-did I pushed her away?
- Did I do everything right yet she strays ?

Getting the latter confused with the former is the wrong type of arrogance imo.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Your wrong and there are countless examples out there to counter your stoic stay in your lane theory.
Your friends misogyny is not misogyny. Thats called being a tool bag idiot.

No he is pretty misogynist. My beef with the pill community is that y'all are essentially the male versions of the feminists y'all constantly cry about. Instead of talking about the joys of dating/sexing women y'all are over here crying about some random girl taking a vacation to Paris or demonizing women to the point of a fairy tale plot. Bottomline, is that these women are having sex and submitting their femineity to someone. I have had plenty of these "evil" or "careerist" women suck my dvck, beg me to *** in them while calling me daddy, and make me breakfast, lunch, and dinner the next day. No matter how many times you butt your head, these are the women of today and it is not going to change anytime soon. If you want to sit on internet round table comments and cry about Suzy going to Spain then so be it. Otherwise, either figure out a way to become a passport bro or stock up on lotion bottles at Costco. I think we all know the core reason to why men are failing to connect with modern women, but that's a touchy point and a different conversation.

 

[BeExcellent]

Guys. The truth is in the middle. Yes a man must lead the relationship, especially a marriage. The woman does not want to be in charge.

That does not mean a man needs to be a d I c k about things. That does not mean the man has all power and the woman none. It’s just not that binary.

Good women are not looking for a good time. Not in the sense of casual sex etc. Good women are looking for a life partner. Every man I dated I was sizing up, but not in a calculated way. It part of mate selection and is supposed to happen naturally. Did I find him sexy? Did I see him as a leader, did he have habits I did not want to live with or want my children exposed to? Would he be a good father, do we have common values? Are his faults tolerable?

Meanwhile I expected the man was sizing me up as well….

There were a number of really hot men I knew who wanted to date. I knew they were into drugs or pot or were very heavy drinkers and I would not accept dates with them because they had habits I did not care to deal with.

Women date more long term focused than men, unless she’s a 304.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Guys. The truth is in the middle. Yes a man must lead the relationship, especially a marriage. The woman does not want to be in charge.

That does not mean a man needs to be a d I c k about things. That does not mean the man has all power and the woman none. It’s just not that binary.

But they simply ignore that go about into their echo chambers of theorizing and crying.

 

[Gamisch]

Misogyny will get you nowhere with women. Firstly, it is important to acknowledge that men are not all the same, and it is both discourteous and offensive to compare any individual to certain individuals. With the considerable amount of disagreement and contentiousness observed on this forum and within the manosphere alone, that declaration is not correct.

Secondly, women are ordinary human beings who lead regular, uneventful lives like most people. For example, my girlfriend had work meetings, prepared meals during her lunch break, went to the gym after work, returned home for dinner, and enjoyed watching Netflix until bedtime. She was not neglecting her job to plot how to get a Chad/Toupac with a degree hybrid or engage in manipulative behavior to test me. The complexity of women is subjective and largely depends on how one perceives them mentally. Women are as complicated as you make them to be in your head.

Baloney. Most of the men I know who are married :happily" keep their women beneathe them. Its all n its presentation

You are both right .

Misogyny indeed gets you nowhere. A real DJ obviously LOVES women. If you dont love em,better find a way...i always say that it's pointless to chase PRs if you hate the gym
Gotta actually like them.

That being said: Stringpulller is also right that a successful marriage/ltr means the man knows how to ...pull the strings, and give her enough leeway to make it seems like she is in charge. That takes a really real one.

 

[Murk]

I absolutely love women. God put them here to support us, but we in turn must be good men. Everything in perfect balance. The world is long removed from the good old days, it's Satan's playground now.

 

[Gamisch]

Well you are both wrong. Misogyny is very much needed. Its part of the so called dark triad thats not a thing but IS a thing.
Its just misunderstood due to the male condition in modern society.
Let me guess you never heard of azzhole game?
There is a reason for all the common cliche's

I see what you mean. And oke, i do agree that the way you describe it, some __fill in dark traits __ are necessary. But misogyny ? Lets look up the exact meaning of this word.

Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women. It is a form of sexism that is used to keep women at a lower social status than men, thus maintaining the social roles of patriarchy.

I have to say, I kinda get what you mean after reading this description..my association with the word was limited to just the hate for women. And I don't see how a AFC will use his hatred for women as leverage to get women. But to KEEP a woman in check in e.g a LTR? That kinda makes sense.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I do. I do it IRL not on the internet. Probably should stop your ranting about nothing you know of me. Lol
I enjoy women and when you get through the anger whiney about women and trying to figure them out and box them in to neat little drawers. Thats when your liberated.
Women are women. And a guy whos balls you couldnt compare too said it long ago about quit trying to figure women out. Hus name was Pook.
Do a search on him here you might learn something.
It only sounds like whinying to the guys trying to figure out the girls instead you bytch about the bad ones.
There is no good and bad women.
They act just like men allow them.
A women you might consider good. Is made. Not found

There's a difference between quitting to try and figure out women to simplify and ease the flow of dating vs resorting to just complaining about women after making said statement. Dating is a tough environment and if you do not stay focused and disciplined, you can end up down the bitter feminism bad theorist keyboard jockey rabbit hole.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Good women are not looking for a good time. Not in the sense of casual sex etc. Good women are looking for a life partner. Every man I dated I was sizing up, but not in a calculated way. It part of mate selection and is supposed to happen naturally. Did I find him sexy? Did I see him as a leader, did he have habits I did not want to live with or want my children exposed to? Would he be a good father, do we have common values? Are his faults tolerable?

Meanwhile I expected the man was sizing me up as well….

You just inadvertently proved my post

I’m not being misogynistic

I’m saying both men and women have their roles to play within the feminine / dominance polarity

But that doesn’t necessarily mean they understand each other’s mating strategies or preferences

Thats what i’m trying to clarify

 

[EyeBRollin]

I absolutely love women. God put them here to support us, but we in turn must be good men. Everything in perfect balance. The world is long removed from the good old days, it's Satan's playground now.

I agree, minus the loving women part. Women are a complete liability in my eyes, other than my wife whom I plan to reproduce with. Women at their core provide virtually no utility and they are biologically programmed to not be accountable for anything.

 

[Gamisch]

I do. I do it IRL not on the internet. Probably should stop your ranting about nothing you know of me. Lol
I enjoy women and when you get through the anger whiney about women and trying to figure them out and box them in to neat little drawers. Thats when your liberated.
Women are women. And a guy whos balls you couldnt compare too said it long ago about quit trying to figure women out. Hus name was Pook.
Do a search on him here you might learn something.
It only sounds like whinying to the guys trying to figure out the girls instead you bytch about the bad ones.
There is no good and bad women.
They act just like men allow them.
A women you might consider good. Is made. Not found

Just saw a video from a dating coach whose name I forgot , but it was about that the more intelligent a man is the more he might struggle with women.

His theory is that a "dumb" man simply thinks ,hot woman, ask her number and feck her. While a "intelligent " man thinks about all his theories and good and bad scenarios only to eventually shut down, or come across as a tryhard / awkward man.

To adress the title of this thread : are women ao complicated or do WE men complicate them? @BeExcellent keeps saying over amd over that ITS OKE to approach a woman. Its perfectly fine and normal. I think this is a really good thing to hear from a woman. And I have yet to meet one woman who says otherwise. As @We_ArE_VeNOM always says, an approach should be a robbery; in and out no lingering around for too long. All of this isn't complicated AT ALL.

Even in the dating stage, we all know exactly what is what. Dating should be somewhat simple actually. Genuine desire and "love" vs transactional relationships for example. Or trying to save a 304 knowing its an impossible task. Ofcourse those things are "complicated ". But again, who complicates what? A simple low iq 304 is complicated now, or is it complicated to "make her a decent housewife?"

 

[BeExcellent]

LMAO, what defines a good woman? I bet you didn't think like that when you were 18-25, I bet you were having your fun

I wrote a thread several years ago here called How to Spot a Unicorn. I go into detail about what defines a good woman there.

And at 18-25 I was studying at university (I earned a BS and a BA in the same 4 years), was pre-Med, in student government and a sorority. I did not lose the V card until my early 20s with a serious boyfriend of 2 years. After that ended I dated the next boyfriend for 5 years. So ya. No carousel here, lol.

I had plenty of fun socializing but had no need to w h o r e around. I knew of girls who did of course and heard the disgusting things said about them too. I valued my reputation and always dated with an eye toward marriage. It’s how I was raised, and how I’ve raised my kids too.

 

[BadBoy89]

The problem men run into with women is that they think women ”care” about them,

Women don’t care about men unless the man has some USE for her, if he is useful to her in someway, she will care for him in that moment in time. After that, he is dead to her.

Media has brainwashed men into thinking women are lovers, romantic, looking for someone to share their lIves with. This is men, not women, Women don’t get married for the “love” or “sentimentality” of it, women get married for the “practicality“ of it.

Men on Sosuave aren‘t misogynist. Dismey has just brainwashed them very well.

 

[Murk]

I agree, minus the loving women part. Women are a complete liability in my eyes, other than my wife whom I plan to reproduce with. Women at their core provide virtually no utility and they are biologically programmed to not be accountable for anything.

Their utility is in their ability to support men and raise children/households. If a woman has true feminine qualities, she's a real asset to any good man/family.

 

[IKO69]

There is another factor thzt is causing men to be unable to connect with women. Diet and environment. I pesonally think something in the environment is causing men to be more feminized.

Yes, health. Large # of thr population is obese; there's more children now growing up and being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes correct? Lots of young people go on to develop type 2 diabetes...it used to be called adult on set diabetes at one point, was something you got much older but now young people get it. This stuff not only ****s with your hormones but can also result in sexual dysfunction. Yes the food, health and environment play a role.

The previous generations were more robust healthwise

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Anyways women can be complicated but I find much more so when they just aren't feeling it. There's been plenty of times I dealt with highly interested women and honestly they were the ones that moved things along. Some chit chat and then "Hey Mike we should grab coffee soon to catch up or hang out in some other way". I've said this before, a lot of the problems guys have is a result of simply dealing with the wrong women. The guys that hate them (and strangely you encounter that on a forum like this for some strange reason) are doing themselves no favors. The women can sense it im sure and will do their best to stay away.